Post: U.S. Army Accused Of 'Video Game'-Like Behavior In Disturbing Leaked Iraq War Video
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04-06-2010, 08:24 AM
#1
Caspa
Retired Mod
Originally posted by another user
Investigative organization WikiLeaks released classified U.S. military video today showing the killing of more than a dozen Iraqis, including two Reuters employees, with a spokesperson for the whistle-blower group slamming the soldiers involved for their "video game" like behavior.
That video, which is incredibly disturbing and graphic, shows a group of Iraqis walking the streets of New Baghdad, identified as armed "insurgents" by military personnel. The group, which reportedly included Reuters photojournalist Namir Noor-Eldeen and assistant Saeed Chmagh, is gunned down by a pair of Apache attack helicopters. Later, a minivan that appears to come to the assistance of the wounded is fired upon.
Australian journalist and WikiLeaks advisory board member Julian Assange released the video at the National Press Club in Washington. "The behavior of the pilots is like they're playing a video game," said Assange, according to a report from Fox News. "It's like they want to get high-scores in that computer game."
That video, which is incredibly disturbing and graphic, shows a group of Iraqis walking the streets of New Baghdad, identified as armed "insurgents" by military personnel. The group, which reportedly included Reuters photojournalist Namir Noor-Eldeen and assistant Saeed Chmagh, is gunned down by a pair of Apache attack helicopters. Later, a minivan that appears to come to the assistance of the wounded is fired upon.
Australian journalist and WikiLeaks advisory board member Julian Assange released the video at the National Press Club in Washington. "The behavior of the pilots is like they're playing a video game," said Assange, according to a report from Fox News. "It's like they want to get high-scores in that computer game."
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04-08-2010, 10:58 PM
#74
RICHIE209
March 6, 2011.
Originally posted by xinfectedsoulx
I know it's war, but you still need rules. If you want people to help you and to support you, you can't go in and fire at who you want for your own personal rush otherwise people will turn against you. If there was no rules, then America, Britain, France and all the other countries would be just like them. The rules stop us from being that.
We do abide by rules.
04-09-2010, 10:40 AM
#75
Como
Here's to Loonyology!
Originally posted by drunkenrepublicn
Everyone has their own opinion and none of them are right- thats just the way it is, every opinon made, can be shot down by another.
My thoughts are, if anyone from any country means to do America or any fellow NATO country harm, we need to do what ever it takes to protect our beliefs. Is that right, for me YES, for someone else NO. Like rjive said: its easy to judge from the comfort of our living rooms.
People say these soldiers are heartless jackass' that dont care about human live, but guess what-its a war, no matter how you feel, it is a war. Soldiers are trained to KILL, this is what they do. If they where trained to promote peace and happiness, they would take cake, ice cream and puppy dogs into battle.
This is not grade school guys, this is real life and I perfer cold heartless soldiers when it comes to protecting my way of life. Does that make it right that innocent people have to die-HELL NO, but thats the way it is.
I love the fact that everyone is speaking their minds. Its good to see everyones thoughts.
My thoughts are, if anyone from any country means to do America or any fellow NATO country harm, we need to do what ever it takes to protect our beliefs. Is that right, for me YES, for someone else NO. Like rjive said: its easy to judge from the comfort of our living rooms.
People say these soldiers are heartless jackass' that dont care about human live, but guess what-its a war, no matter how you feel, it is a war. Soldiers are trained to KILL, this is what they do. If they where trained to promote peace and happiness, they would take cake, ice cream and puppy dogs into battle.
This is not grade school guys, this is real life and I perfer cold heartless soldiers when it comes to protecting my way of life. Does that make it right that innocent people have to die-HELL NO, but thats the way it is.
I love the fact that everyone is speaking their minds. Its good to see everyones thoughts.
I agree with your point here, in that it is war and needs to be fought in a certain way. I would back that 100% regardless, BUT what i am questioning is this gunner in the Apache. I believe a soldier can still abide by rules, act in a certain manner and represent his country and fellow soldiers amicably during a war situation, as many have proven. Unfortunately, in my opinion, this soldier has let down his forces and country by his actions in that helicopter.
As you said though, these are only my opinions and differ from others greatly.
It is good to see a strong debate kept clean.
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04-09-2010, 10:58 AM
#76
Caspa
Retired Mod
Originally posted by Como
It is good to see a strong debate kept clean.
I agree, I never thought you guys would be so interested in this when I posted it, it's nice to see a bit of mature discussion.
I also agree with drunk's point, but as Como was saying about the gunner, there just is just something wrong about his eagerness to kill - I know how they're trained to feel nothing, and deal with killing another man, but his voice, and his choice of words just isn't right.
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04-09-2010, 08:58 PM
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04-12-2010, 06:57 PM
#79
Como
Here's to Loonyology!
Was the report written by Armed forces though? I have to admit the picture of the rpg next to a picture does make it look like he's carrying one. Do you have more sources so I can read more on this, as i'm interested now! lol
Tbh, i may be made to eat my words, but just wana read abit more on this!! :p
Tbh, i may be made to eat my words, but just wana read abit more on this!! :p
04-12-2010, 11:55 PM
#80
RICHIE209
March 6, 2011.
I like all this debate too, especially on this topic. The Army and Marines are trained hardcore and kills are what these young guys want. Even if the guy on the corner didn't have an rpg, it sure as hell looked like it. Leaning around a corner with a long object in your hand that could be an rpg is definitely ftl.
04-13-2010, 06:10 AM
#82
Dopey
NGU :/
Yes I did watch the entire 17 minutes.
You have to remember these people are in a real war, their behavior is expected. The pilot is talking to people on the ground, if they see a guy with an RPG, and that RPG kills the soldiers on the ground, they will not be able to live with themselves. Of course they will be eager to kill the bad guys and get it over with. And everytime, they "requested persmission to engage" and waited eagerly for permission. They did not do anything any normal person would not do in their situation...
You have to remember these people are in a real war, their behavior is expected. The pilot is talking to people on the ground, if they see a guy with an RPG, and that RPG kills the soldiers on the ground, they will not be able to live with themselves. Of course they will be eager to kill the bad guys and get it over with. And everytime, they "requested persmission to engage" and waited eagerly for permission. They did not do anything any normal person would not do in their situation...
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