Post: United States Marine Corps vs. Entire British Military
06-08-2010, 01:31 AM #1
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Britain:
Active personnel 188,440
Reserve personnel 195,300
Budget: £40billion

USMC
203,000 active
40,000 reserve (as of 2009)
Budget: $39billion (£26billion)


USMC has air, naval support included, because they do.


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Wed ****ing dominate the UK, keep it to USMC vs the whole British military
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06-10-2010, 11:26 AM #20
xinfectedsoulx
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Originally posted by O View Post


Germany would have won the war if they had Russia on their side. Russia was the turning point in the war, not the Americans. Russia suffered the most casualties of everybody and forced the Germans to fight two fronts.


Russia's tactics was to send men in until the Germans ran out of ammo. Russia just had more men to send in to win. This is off topic too.


Originally posted by another user
Jesus christ you are brainwashed.


HAH! I'm just stating what they have done previously, as proven. There is nothing "brainwashed" about saying what they HAVE done before. I'm just stating that they are that good. Nobody seems to know how good they actually are. Yeah, being a secret special force is good, but doing shit like that is unbelievable.



Originally posted by another user
The tactics of small teams is stealth. Stealth is #1. You can think that 20 guys can beat a whole army, but the SAS aren't gods.


They are very stealthy. No matter what situation they have been thrown into, weather conditions, geographical conditions, they have always won. Search "SAS, the real story" on the internet so you can get some ideas on the shit that have been put into and won. They aren't God, I never said they were, I was just saying what they are like.


Originally posted by another user
I didnt mention the other aircraft we have. The F-22 is so advanced that your radar wont detect it and the F-22's missile range is much farther than your Tornados. I guarantee you 150 F-22s alone can destroy the whole RAF, not to mention the other thousands of F-15s, F-16s, F-18 and F-35s we have.


Again, you might have some ace Jets, but do you have the pilots to use them properly? Sure, you can have the future of jets, but without the correct men, those jets are useless.


Originally posted by another user
Again with Vietnam. If we could use a nuke, we could have destroyed them all. It wasnt about going in and killing everybody or we would have one hands down. They blended in with civilians by day, and booby trapped soldiers by night.


So you need to use Nukes to win? Sure they blended in, although from the things I have seen through school studies, it didn't matter to some. They just raped the women and children, killed the men and burned down the villages. You were saying about killing everybody?


Originally posted by another user
We didnt, it was our Allies combined that one both wars.


Thank god Russia joined our side, or we would have been ****ed.


So you are one of the few that actually knows what happened. Many Americans say that they won blah blah blah.

This could be a good debate if other people contributed to it, such as instead of me and you debating it out in full, other people didn't just say one line words and think they made a point, but instead made some good points that can be debated.
06-10-2010, 01:35 PM #21
RICHIE209
March 6, 2011.
This is unfair, USMC OBVIOUSLY wins.

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06-10-2010, 06:21 PM #22
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Originally posted by sysonz View Post

you can't escape what happend also how come you think the sas are shiti think the yanks are just jellous, I havnt heard of the sas failing


We tried to help our allies out, and failed. At least we gave a damn about our Allies and helped them out in the shitty situation they were in.

The SAS and other Tier 1 special operations have failed in missions, their missions are top secret so you wont know if they have failed or succeeded.

I respect the SAS, you guys just think they are god. A team of 600 men with no air support, artillery support, and limited ammunition can only go so far.

Originally posted by Garf
USMC = Spray and Pray

The USMC grunt, 0311, uses M16s which are in fact not automatic. They are single shot and rarely use the brust option because the recoil is too high, as written by a Marine Officer in One Bullet Away. So as far as spraying in praying, so I dont see what your getting at.

Originally posted by xinfectedsoulx View Post
Russia's tactics was to send men in until the Germans ran out of ammo. Russia just had more men to send in to win.


And if Russia sent their forces into the UK/USA along with the Germans, you and I both know the Allies wouldnt have won.


Originally posted by another user

HAH! I'm just stating what they have done previously, as proven. There is nothing "brainwashed" about saying what they HAVE done before. I'm just stating that they are that good. Nobody seems to know how good they actually are. Yeah, being a secret special force is good, but doing shit like that is unbelievable.

I am not disagreeing with you. They are good at guerrilla, stealth, hostage rescue, etc. But that can only go so far.


Originally posted by another user

They are very stealthy.

They have to be. If their cover is blown, they are going to get slaughtered.

Originally posted by another user
No matter what situation they have been thrown into, weather conditions, geographical conditions, they have always won.

How do you know? Are you on the SAS?

Teir 1 special operations missions are highly classified and you will never know exactly what missions they went on and if they succeeded or failed.


Originally posted by another user

Again, you might have some ace Jets, but do you have the pilots to use them properly? Sure, you can have the future of jets, but without the correct men, those jets are useless.


Our pilots are just as good as yours. If given the best ace pilot in an outdated jet, the average pilot in the technologically most advanced plane is going to win.

Originally posted by another user
The F-22's combination of reduced observability and supercruise accentuates the advantage of surprise in a tactical environment. The most publicized and most revolutionary technology for aircraft is stealth. Stealth makes an object become very difficult to detect by sensors such as radar, heat seekers (infrared), sound detectors and even the human eye. While not invisible, the F-22's radar cross section is comparable to the radar cross sections of birds and bees. Compared to other current fighters, the F-22 is much more difficult to detect.





Originally posted by another user

So you need to use Nukes to win? Sure they blended in, although from the things I have seen through school studies, it didn't matter to some. They just raped the women and children, killed the men and burned down the villages. You were saying about killing everybody?


The British pussied out in helping their Ally, the French in the war. We stepped in and did the best we could.

If the British were in the same situation, you too would have done exactly what we did. Life was harsh in the jungle, they would hide with the civilians by day, and set booby trapped mines by night.

Read more about conventional warfare vs. guerrilla warfare.

Originally posted by another user

So you are one of the few that actually knows what happened. Many Americans say that they won blah blah blah.

I have read numerous books on the Vietnam war and the accounts and diaries that the soldiers went through. Life in the jungle was hell and I respect all my soldiers for stepping up and fighting where the British didn't do shit.

And, in the end, we did loose the war. We pulled out and we lost our mission of keeping away the Vietcong. We tried to help France out, and we decided it was not in out interest to keep fighting for a useless cause.
06-13-2010, 03:04 AM #23
NotlocTL
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Originally posted by sysonz View Post
well at least britian made one of the best sniper rifles ever made the barrett 50 caliber

Wrong. It was made by Barrett Firearms in the US, headquartered in Tenessee.
Originally posted by xinfectedsoulx View Post
I know, was just stating it as you said you had air and naval.



Oh, you have more men, that means you can beat everyone. Russia has more men than you, China does too, but it doesn't mean to say they will win. Germany had more men, but look who got their asses kicked before the glory boys (Americans) showed up. If you knew anything about the SAS, you would know that they might only have a few hundred men, but their tactics make it seem like thousands of men. 10 men alone held off thousands of men, as well as tanks in a secret war. Since they were formed in WW2, they have been behind enemy lines blowing shit up without anyone knowing till it's too late. So while your guys are shooting at who you think would be a whole platoon, in reality it could be 5 men. They don't need air support all the time. They are trained to survive, not rely on some bomb from the air like your guys would do. They stand and fight until they win or die. If they loose a man, then get on and push forward.




You have about 150 F22. If you're going by size, they would get owned by our 200+? Tornados and then however many Harrier GR7 and GR9's we have. That's just offensive jets. Then we have a shit load of defensive jets and heli's. Thing is, you might have the best jet, but you don't have the best pilots. Be careful you don't get friendly fired upon!




Not really though. You're just going by numbers, not power or strength. How do you expect to beat a sophisticated army like Britain when you can't beat a bunch of jungle men? How is it that America hasn't owned half the world? I could go on and on about this, but it doesn't matter. America believes they won WW1 and WW2. America believes they have the best army. You can't change an American mind. I admire you all for your patriotism, shame Britain isn't like that. I know one thing though. America didn't win WW1 or WW2 seeing as though they arrived late when Germany was falling to pieces, you just sped up the process.

This post is full of epic fail, beyond explanation.
Originally posted by sysonz View Post
well if the us army was that good how come they lost in vietnam


Originally posted by sysonz View Post
lol you expect me to berlive that answer, we know what really happend the vietnamise over ran you yanks and you had no choice but retriet

you can't escape what happend also how come you think the sas are shiti think the yanks are just jellous, I havnt heard of the sas failing

You have no clue. It was the bleeding heart liberals that rioted so damn much that made us back out and not focus on the objective on killing every NVA/Viet cong F*cker over there. If you really think that the Vietnamese ran us over then go read a damn history book and soldiers accounts of the war.
Originally posted by Garf
USMC = Spray and Pray

UK Forces = Calculated attacks that result in victory EVERY TIME.

Another victim of brainwashing.
06-13-2010, 03:58 AM #24
Originally posted by xinfectedsoulx View Post
It's obviously Britain. If it's the entire military, we also have the Royal Air Force and the Royal Navy. Not to mention the SAS and SBS, of which could probably kick the USMC's ass all by themselves. There doesn't even need to be a debate about this. Britain would kick ALL Americas military ass. Yes, your specials, air force and Navy. Navy on Navy = Britain win. We have, and have always had the best Navy in the world. Specials on Specials (SAS VS Tier 1, who have around the same amount of men) = SAS win. Best Special forces in the world since they formed. SBS vs SEALs = SBS win. What can I say, Britain has the best army in the world. Sure you have more men, that doesn't matter. We still own. American Air Force vs RAF = RAF win. Just that much better.

Thing is though, about 80% of this forum is American, meaning that majority of them will vote for USMC. Also, the majority of the Americans are stubborn when it comes to a topic like this. There's no question about that.


ehem.. I think when he says Britain he is talking about ALL of of Britain's military forces and we are comparing all of your military forces to just one of ours, lol.

Let's think history, ROTFL, Revolutionary War FTW!(Sorry I think I just started a flame war :confused:

USA's Armed Forces:
Marine Corps & Marine Corps Reserve
Army, Army Reserve & National Guard
Air Force, Air Force Reserve & Air Guard
Navy & Navy Reserve
Coast Guard & Coast Guard Reserve

Britain's Armed Forces: (Sorry I don't know these :/)
Royal Navy
Royal Marines
Tell me what I'm missing Gasp

Yeah I think USA just whooped your ass Winky Winky
06-13-2010, 12:34 PM #25
xinfectedsoulx
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Originally posted by NotlocTL View Post

This post is full of epic fail, beyond explanation.


If anything, your post is the fail post. In two of your answers you have failed to tell people why USMC are better. You first post "USMC!!! Go Devil dogs" or along those lines. There is nothing to to say why. This post, you tried to rip me by saying that my post failed "beyond explanation", yet you fail to tell me why. You fail to say anything other than you trying to be correct. You are the Americans nobody likes. You are the ones why many of the World hate your guts. I genuinely feel sorry for the decent Americans out there, and that will be a few. Before you try to say anyone fails, TELL THEM HOW THE **** THEY FAIL, dumbass.

Originally posted by another user
then go read a damn history book...

Another victim of brainwashing.


You are the one who's been brainwashed. You keep telling people to read YOUR schools history book. You're an American in an American school. We all know that Americans have big egos, always want to be this and that. You study from a textbook which is most likely written by an AMERICAN. See what I am saying? In a visitor message to someone, you stated how if the Americans didn't intervene in WWII, most of Europe would be speaking German because you read it in a textbook, by which, again, was most likely written by an egotistic American. You came late, to both wars. Why? Because you Americans knew that the Germans were being beaten, slowly. So then you all decide to hop on your rubber dingies and play action man with the big boys, just so you can say YOU won the war. All you did was speed up the process. You always have to be there, at every war, and when you loose, you make up some bullshit stories.

Originally posted by M3RK View Post
ehem.. I think when he says Britain he is talking about ALL of of Britain's military forces and we are comparing all of your military forces to just one of ours, lol.


We have already established that.

Originally posted by another user
Let's think history, ROTFL, Revolutionary War FTW!(Sorry I think I just started a flame war :confused:


Yeah, let's think about history shall we.
You didn't just do it all by yourselves though, did you. You had the help of Spain, Dutch republic and France besides your rebels. So even still, you needed help to beat us. So before you say anything about you beating us in the Revolutionary war, think about the other 3 countries that helped you out. It wouldn't surprise me though if you didn't learn that because it would deceive the fact that you're better than everyone else.

Take a look at these 3 links.

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Here is a list of what we used to own. Scroll all the way through and count how many places Britain held.
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Originally posted by another user
Yeah I think USA just whooped your ass Winky Winky


You have never whooped our asses and never will. You can't beat us on your own soil without help for **** sake.

On the other hand, I think I just whooped two asses single handedly, don't you?

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06-13-2010, 12:49 PM #26
The-Don
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Originally posted by M3RK View Post
ehem.. I think when he says Britain he is talking about ALL of of Britain's military forces and we are comparing all of your military forces to just one of ours, lol.

Let's think history, ROTFL, Revolutionary War FTW!(Sorry I think I just started a flame war :confused:

USA's Armed Forces:
Marine Corps & Marine Corps Reserve
Army, Army Reserve & National Guard
Air Force, Air Force Reserve & Air Guard
Navy & Navy Reserve
Coast Guard & Coast Guard Reserve

Britain's Armed Forces: (Sorry I don't know these :/)
Royal Navy
Royal Marines
Tell me what I'm missing Gasp

Yeah I think USA just whooped your ass Winky Winky


You're missing:
The SAS (Special Air Service), the SBS (Special Boat Service), the SSR (Special Reconnaissance Regiment) and the Special Forces Support Group (SFSG) (Basically you missed the whole of the DSF). You missed the RAF (Royal Air Force). Now list them and say who wins... And if you are going to mention SEAL's don't, as we (The British thanks to our Navy) were the start of special forces and still have the best success rate of any force s out there (99%). If it wasn't for the British their would be no SEALS. Throughout time the British where a feared fighting force due to an amazing NAVY division.
06-13-2010, 01:26 PM #27
brittish would win, there training is far superior and lets be honest usmc would kill half their own troops due to friendly fire
06-13-2010, 01:37 PM #28
Stub Hero
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Well, seing as the Americans friendly fire the British I think there's a clear winner.

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