Post: Death Penalty.
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09-27-2010, 10:42 PM
#38
KAOSxMaggot
Grunt
09-27-2010, 10:47 PM
#39
NeedaLifeSoon
Retired Life
I don't know how capital punishment is applied in other countries but in the US it is a decision made state by state.
For states that have the death penalty ( around 20 out of 50 ) it is meant as a deterrent for commiting murder.
It takes an average of 13 yrs to excecute someone after their intial sentencing and about 350,000 in taxpayer money in appeals and legal fees.
In almost all cases this is not going to deter someone from commiting murder. They are either in a rage, think they are not going to be caught, or are insane.
Its estimated to cost 14,000 per year to house a prisoner.
It seems to me more cost effective and a better detterent to sentence for life without parole.
Not even 20 people per year are excecuted in the US and they cost us 3 to 4 hundred thousand, why bother, if you can't excecute some sick f*ck who just raped and murdered some kids and you have to wait 13yrs to get your vengence.
Stop waisting money trying to excecute people and use it to build more prisons, lock up dangerous people, and make prison a scary place.
You can have different prisons for different criminals, but the scary ones go to the scary prisons.
If you don't want to go there then don't break the law.
Its for punishment and deterrence, not to reform some sick Mother FK'r
For states that have the death penalty ( around 20 out of 50 ) it is meant as a deterrent for commiting murder.
It takes an average of 13 yrs to excecute someone after their intial sentencing and about 350,000 in taxpayer money in appeals and legal fees.
In almost all cases this is not going to deter someone from commiting murder. They are either in a rage, think they are not going to be caught, or are insane.
Its estimated to cost 14,000 per year to house a prisoner.
It seems to me more cost effective and a better detterent to sentence for life without parole.
Not even 20 people per year are excecuted in the US and they cost us 3 to 4 hundred thousand, why bother, if you can't excecute some sick f*ck who just raped and murdered some kids and you have to wait 13yrs to get your vengence.
Stop waisting money trying to excecute people and use it to build more prisons, lock up dangerous people, and make prison a scary place.
You can have different prisons for different criminals, but the scary ones go to the scary prisons.
If you don't want to go there then don't break the law.
Its for punishment and deterrence, not to reform some sick Mother FK'r
09-28-2010, 12:06 AM
#42
NeedaLifeSoon
Retired Life
Originally posted by Me
the UK still has the death penalty, but only for treson
they also get minimum wage work in some cases and the meals cost on average £3.50-£5 (4$-8$)
that prison is a great idea.. but i think it wouldent work in places like america too many people think there "gansta" it would work in places where they have a deep respect for authority and are afraid to lose there "honour" like japan or peaceful countrys denmark sweeden ect
we know that america has shit prisons no offence to america but you are a stupid people most of your prisons dont meet human rights laws in 99% of cases (if he/she where smart enough) they could appeal to a court that it breaks this law the judge/courthouse CANT throw a human rights case out of court and when found to be inadaquite they would be realised from prison with no charge (at the very best 60% of cases with state benefits and a job) in 39% of cases if a human rights law has been broken they will need to serve the rest of their sentace in a family members house with state benefits and finnaly in 1% of cases they sue the goverment for hundreds of thousands even millions in some cases but need to serve the rest of there sentace in a different prison
america isent helped by the bad treatment of laws and how they apply them, for example te death penalty.. if you have the death penalty it doesent mean you will be exacuted if you have appeals left they cannot exacute you
and "lethal injection" breaches even americas human rights laws its a horrible drug that doesent guarentee death in the best outcome you will drift off to sleep with minimal pain but in the worst out comes it can take minutes hours or even days of extreme pain, no matter how much pain the persons in they CANT give another injection to finish you off
you may be thinking he/she deserves for what they did.. but its estimated 30% off all death penaly victims where inoccent world wide and 8% in america.. only 8% pfft?.. imagine a room filled with 100 of your family and friends your dad sister brother and best friend die almost instantly another 3 die slowly 10-20 mins in a great deal of pain and your mum takes hour and hours to die in some of the worst pain imaginable... now what do you think? they did nothing wrong but the goverment condemed them to death for no reson
the death penalty is accpetable in some cases war criminals ect but for average joe no its not acceptable
and there are far superior drugs that are a guarenteed kill instantly the electric chair is an abuse of human rights and humiliating for your family and friends (you piss and shit your pants be4 you die sometimes you bleed from the mouth eyes and genitals)
you cant be shot because there a law that condones them from wrecking your face incase you want an open coffin funeral and you cant be shot in the chest because its not a guarenteed kill
they also get minimum wage work in some cases and the meals cost on average £3.50-£5 (4$-8$)
that prison is a great idea.. but i think it wouldent work in places like america too many people think there "gansta" it would work in places where they have a deep respect for authority and are afraid to lose there "honour" like japan or peaceful countrys denmark sweeden ect
we know that america has shit prisons no offence to america but you are a stupid people most of your prisons dont meet human rights laws in 99% of cases (if he/she where smart enough) they could appeal to a court that it breaks this law the judge/courthouse CANT throw a human rights case out of court and when found to be inadaquite they would be realised from prison with no charge (at the very best 60% of cases with state benefits and a job) in 39% of cases if a human rights law has been broken they will need to serve the rest of their sentace in a family members house with state benefits and finnaly in 1% of cases they sue the goverment for hundreds of thousands even millions in some cases but need to serve the rest of there sentace in a different prison
america isent helped by the bad treatment of laws and how they apply them, for example te death penalty.. if you have the death penalty it doesent mean you will be exacuted if you have appeals left they cannot exacute you
and "lethal injection" breaches even americas human rights laws its a horrible drug that doesent guarentee death in the best outcome you will drift off to sleep with minimal pain but in the worst out comes it can take minutes hours or even days of extreme pain, no matter how much pain the persons in they CANT give another injection to finish you off
you may be thinking he/she deserves for what they did.. but its estimated 30% off all death penaly victims where inoccent world wide and 8% in america.. only 8% pfft?.. imagine a room filled with 100 of your family and friends your dad sister brother and best friend die almost instantly another 3 die slowly 10-20 mins in a great deal of pain and your mum takes hour and hours to die in some of the worst pain imaginable... now what do you think? they did nothing wrong but the goverment condemed them to death for no reson
the death penalty is accpetable in some cases war criminals ect but for average joe no its not acceptable
and there are far superior drugs that are a guarenteed kill instantly the electric chair is an abuse of human rights and humiliating for your family and friends (you piss and shit your pants be4 you die sometimes you bleed from the mouth eyes and genitals)
you cant be shot because there a law that condones them from wrecking your face incase you want an open coffin funeral and you cant be shot in the chest because its not a guarenteed kill
No offense to Scotland but you are a stupid people.
At least if you are a typical Scot. I can tell from your post that you are stupid and not the typical Scotsman.
Your facts are mis-stated.
Capital punishment in any form is grisly. but firing squad excecution is available in 3 states and they have 6 marksman ( 1 with a blank round ) fire at the heart.Instant death.
Lethal injection has never had a person survive for more than 20 minutes, and they were under sedatement.
( More compassion than they offered their victim)
Electrecution is barbaric, but more to witness than pain endured.
99% of US prisons exceed standards in penal institutions world wide. Try a Turkish prison.
70% of criminals in the US have been through the legal system before and are smart enough to sue for human rights abuses if they could. ( They're lawyer sure would if he could make a buck off it )
Our criminal justice system is undoubtedly screwed up, but more so because they attempt to give too many rights to a criminal, in an effort to not prosecute the innocent.
As far as prison it self, it is not meant to be a place you want to be in.
There should be no amenities in a maximum security prison, but they are provided to control the prison population.
Try and get your facts straight and try reading a little.
It may help your grammer and better enable your next bash america post to be a little more educated sounding.
09-28-2010, 05:08 AM
#43
xSiiK---AT0MIK
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Originally posted by needalifesoon
No offense to Scotland but you are a stupid people.
At least if you are a typical Scot. I can tell from your post that you are stupid and not the typical Scotsman.
Your facts are mis-stated.
Capital punishment in any form is grisly. but firing squad excecution is available in 3 states and they have 6 marksman ( 1 with a blank round ) fire at the heart.Instant death.
Lethal injection has never had a person survive for more than 20 minutes, and they were under sedatement.
( More compassion than they offered their victim)
Electrecution is barbaric, but more to witness than pain endured.
99% of US prisons exceed standards in penal institutions world wide. Try a Turkish prison.
70% of criminals in the US have been through the legal system before and are smart enough to sue for human rights abuses if they could. ( They're lawyer sure would if he could make a buck off it )
Our criminal justice system is undoubtedly screwed up, but more so because they attempt to give too many rights to a criminal, in an effort to not prosecute the innocent.
As far as prison it self, it is not meant to be a place you want to be in.
There should be no amenities in a maximum security prison, but they are provided to control the prison population.
Try and get your facts straight and try reading a little.
It may help your grammer and better enable your next bash america post to be a little more educated sounding.
At least if you are a typical Scot. I can tell from your post that you are stupid and not the typical Scotsman.
Your facts are mis-stated.
Capital punishment in any form is grisly. but firing squad excecution is available in 3 states and they have 6 marksman ( 1 with a blank round ) fire at the heart.Instant death.
Lethal injection has never had a person survive for more than 20 minutes, and they were under sedatement.
( More compassion than they offered their victim)
Electrecution is barbaric, but more to witness than pain endured.
99% of US prisons exceed standards in penal institutions world wide. Try a Turkish prison.
70% of criminals in the US have been through the legal system before and are smart enough to sue for human rights abuses if they could. ( They're lawyer sure would if he could make a buck off it )
Our criminal justice system is undoubtedly screwed up, but more so because they attempt to give too many rights to a criminal, in an effort to not prosecute the innocent.
As far as prison it self, it is not meant to be a place you want to be in.
There should be no amenities in a maximum security prison, but they are provided to control the prison population.
Try and get your facts straight and try reading a little.
It may help your grammer and better enable your next bash america post to be a little more educated sounding.
yeh obviously laws change in every state
and about the 99% blah blah world wide, yeh lol world wide.. check china turkey iraq ect not the best are they? an after all its america, america has some of the worst prisons in "advanced" nations
and not all people can efford a lawyer and i assume america is like the rest of the world, the goverment pays per case not per hour so it wouldent be in there intrest to take on a long drawn out human rights case
and have you ever been electricuted? i tell u it fkn hurts
i obviously exagared the lethal injection to get a point across but in all states or countrys they wont or cant give sedatives
09-28-2010, 10:52 AM
#44
Pricey91
Professor of trollology
Originally posted by joe250
you wouldnt know until you face death in the eye. Prison isnt as bad as isolation which litterally is staring at 4 walls everyday and a tv or course and a cot
Obviously my opinion my change at that time. However, everyone else could find their opinions changing to my way of thinking. So it's a completely flawed argument.
10-02-2010, 06:36 AM
#45
marvin1554*
Hello!
This is a very difficult answer we must keep in mind we should respect human life so execution is wrong but, some may say that but think that those who do crime are evil and should be "exterminated" in my opinion as both a Christian and a human would be that i think its wrong ask yourself this
"Who am i to kill another?
"Who am i to kill another?
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10-02-2010, 07:04 AM
#46
adam_rox12
Climbing up the ladder
Originally posted by king
This is a very difficult answer we must keep in mind we should respect human life so execution is wrong but, some may say that but think that those who do crime are evil and should be "exterminated" in my opinion as both a Christian and a human would be that i think its wrong ask yourself this
"Who am i to kill another?
"Who am i to kill another?
I'm not even a christian, in fact im a dirty satanist lol but i still agree with you 100%
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