Post: Agnostic? Atheist? Religious? Read.
09-25-2010, 10:56 PM #1
Fionn
Banned
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I am Atheist now, I am also an Ex-Catholic.
So Instead of being biased, I went to look at both sides of this argument. I got motivational quotes from both Atheists and Christians/Religious People. And it was shocking.

The Best Atheist Quotes:

Originally posted by another user
"Is God willing to prevent evil but not able?
Then He is no omnipotent.
Is he able but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able, and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither ablenor willing?
Then why call him God."

~Epicurus.


Originally posted by another user
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365 not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers were given. Satan - 10"


Originally posted by another user
"And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence"


Originally posted by another user
"We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes"


Originally posted by another user
"Man created God in his image : intolerant, sexist, homophobic and violent."


Originally posted by another user
"Men never commit evil so fully and joyfully as when they do it for religious convictions"


Okay so heres this part.
All the above quotes were by some of the smartest people who ever lived. The best philosophers, scientists ect.
But yet when I come to the Christian side, I find that 99% of the quotes are taken directly from a 2000 year old book which people call the bible. Or some cheesy ass shit like this:

Originally posted by another user
"Our Lord has written the promise of ressurection, not in books alone, but in every leaf in springtime." ~ Martin Luther


So tell me, How come nearly every famous scientist that has ever lived has been atheist? And that normal Religious people cannot come up with faults in Atheism?

This is the shit that turned me Atheist.

Thank you for Reading.
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09-28-2010, 10:40 PM #119
Fionn
Banned
Originally posted by needalifesoon View Post
The greatest secular, theolgic, and scientific minds have argued the excistance of God for 10,000 years.
Since we are all so much smarter now that we have nearly unlocked the secrets of the universe, I guess we can toss out all of histories previous debates.
Does God exist?
Is there life after death?
Does THE God care which dogma you subscribe to?

The thread started with 3 choices.
I believe there should be a 4th choice.
Is one permitted to belive in God without prescribing to a particular religious doctrine?

I don't believe the debate has changed and all views have merit.
Why does 1 group feel superior to another when the best minds in history can not decide for certain.
But the first group has always and remains in the minority. Even if they feel like mental eliteists.


Hmm it seems you have thought this through very well.

Sorry if you got confused but it wasn't actually a Poll, I was just expressing my opinions.

So you think that over the past 10,000 Years, Nothing has changed even with the amount of knowledge we have gained in that period of time?

Also, Please specify what religion you are.
09-28-2010, 10:47 PM #120
Stub Hero
Laying low low low
Religion has caused nothing but trouble throughout its existance, if it was up to me all religion would be banned.
09-28-2010, 10:51 PM #121
Adkins
Banned
I am agnostic. I don't know if he really exist's.
09-29-2010, 12:38 AM #122
NeedaLifeSoon
Retired Life
Originally posted by FionnDawg View Post
Hmm it seems you have thought this through very well.

Sorry if you got confused but it wasn't actually a Poll, I was just expressing my opinions.

So you think that over the past 10,000 Years, Nothing has changed even with the amount of knowledge we have gained in that period of time?

Also, Please specify what religion you are.


An expressed opinion does not need to be a criticism of anothers opinion or belief structure.

There have been many valid points raised by both sides in this thread. Some thought provoking and reasoned.
09-29-2010, 06:13 PM #123
Fionn
Banned
Originally posted by needalifesoon View Post
An expressed opinion does not need to be a criticism of anothers opinion or belief structure.

There have been many valid points raised by both sides in this thread. Some thought provoking and reasoned.

Yours as a whole have not.
Most have been nonsensical or ignorant.
From the start, with your opening paragraph, you claim to have taken an unbiased approach to the debate and shown quotes from both sides. There are thousands of quotes to choose from on both sides of the debate and you list 6 Anti God quotes, only one attributable, yet you claim they all came from the greatest scientific minds in history.
Epicuras was one of the first scientific type thinking minds and although this quote is attributed to him , He never denied the existance of Gods. He said they were not concerned with human life and would not punish us after death. He was the first to write that there was nothing after death so there was nothing to fear of it.

But for your unbiased research, the best you could come up with to support your position was a one sentence quote from Martin Luther.
If you could only come up with a Luther quote than use something more meaningfully unbiased:

Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding.
Every man must do two things alone; he must do his own believing and his own dying.
Whatever your heart clings to and confides in, that is really your God.
Martin Luther

As I said earlier, This debate has gone on since Epicuras walked the earth 2400 hundred years ago and it will go on well beyond our complete understanding of the universal laws of physics.
By the way, if the Universe came from nothing, where did the laws come from that govern it?

This debate will always be argued by minds great and small, but yours is of the latter group.

My religion or lack of one is my own concern.


If you read the full thread, The first reply was saying that I was meant to be unbiased.
I did reply that not when I started the thread I was unbiased, When I started my research I was unbiased.
Since I am an Atheist mainly to the Judea Christian God, Since that's what I was brought up believing, That's why I didn't include any other God's like Allah or Zeus.
I Am claiming that most of the smartest minds in the world today are Atheist or do not have a belief for any God.
You can tell me that Scientist X is Religious, But 93% of the Members of the National Academy of Sciences reject the concept of God.
And Im pretty sure that when you believe nothing happens after death, That's part Atheist.

And I'm sorry for not finding your choice of quote. I'm deeply sorry.
/sarcasm.

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09-30-2010, 12:36 AM #124
VHS
Has been a while
Originally posted by needalifesoon View Post
An expressed opinion does not need to be a criticism of anothers opinion or belief structure.

There have been many valid points raised by both sides in this thread. Some thought provoking and reasoned.

Yours as a whole have not.
Most have been nonsensical or ignorant.
From the start, with your opening paragraph, you claim to have taken an unbiased approach to the debate and shown quotes from both sides. There are thousands of quotes to choose from on both sides of the debate and you list 6 Anti God quotes, only one attributable, yet you claim they all came from the greatest scientific minds in history.
Epicuras was one of the first scientific type thinking minds and although this quote is attributed to him , He never denied the existance of Gods. He said they were not concerned with human life and would not punish us after death. He was the first to write that there was nothing after death so there was nothing to fear of it.

But for your unbiased research, the best you could come up with to support your position was a one sentence quote from Martin Luther.
If you could only come up with a Luther quote than use something more meaningfully unbiased:

Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding.
Every man must do two things alone; he must do his own believing and his own dying.
Whatever your heart clings to and confides in, that is really your God.
Martin Luther

As I said earlier, This debate has gone on since Epicuras walked the earth 2400 hundred years ago and it will go on well beyond our complete understanding of the universal laws of physics.
By the way, if the Universe came from nothing, where did the laws come from that govern it?

This debate will always be argued by minds great and small, but yours is of the latter group.

My religion or lack of one is my own concern.


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Good Game. I highly doubt Atheists/Agnostics are the ignorant ones.
09-30-2010, 12:58 AM #125
NeedaLifeSoon
Retired Life
Didn't say they were,
Only said fionna was,
09-30-2010, 03:08 AM #126
doklo
Bounty hunter
well I'm still an atheist can't change me with words you have to show me hes there and then maybe I'll change
09-30-2010, 03:14 AM #127
sothern_cali
Vault dweller
Originally posted by aZlan View Post
good man, atheism ftw.

if there wasn't religion racism would not exist.

Except for color


oh so because there is religion there is racism?... :FU:

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