Post: Prop 19: Marijuana Legalization in California
Options
10-14-2010, 02:52 AM
#1
420
Kush Friendly
Basics:
This is a huge deal, on November 2nd, 2010, Voters will vote on the Legalization of Marijuana in California or Prop 19. If passed it will allow people 21 years old or older to possess, cultivate, or transport marijuana for personal use. There are a number of positive outcomes if passed, such as aiding the struggling economy.Such as permitting local governments to regulate and tax commercial production and sale of marijuana to people 21 years old or older. Savings of up to several tens of millions of dollars annually to state and local governments on the costs of incarcerating and supervising certain marijuana offenders.
Originally posted by another user
On Nov. 2, Californians will vote on Proposition 19, deciding whether to legalize the production, sale and consumption of marijuana. If the initiative passes, it won't just be momentous for California; it may, at long last, offer Mexico the promise of an exit from our costly war on drugs.
Originally posted by another user
Passage of Prop 19 would therefore flip the terms of the debate about drug policy: If California legalizes marijuana, will it be viable for our country to continue hunting down drug lords in Tijuana? Will Wild West-style shootouts to stop Mexican cannabis from crossing the border make any sense when, just over that border, the local 7-Eleven sells pot?
Benefits:
-Anybody over 21 could posses 1 ounce of marijuana for personal consumption.
-May grow marijuana at a private residence in a space of up to 25 square feet for personal use.
-Smoke without worrying about the boys in blue
Government Regulations:
- Local government may authorize the retail sale of up to 1 ounce of marijuana per transaction, and regulate the hours and location of the business.
-Local government may authorize larger amounts of marijuana for personal possession and cultivation, or for commercial cultivation, transportation, and sale.
-Allows for the transportation of marijuana from a licensed premises in one city or county to a licensed premises in another city or county, without regard to local laws of intermediate localities to the contrary.
Outcome:
-Create between 60,000 and 110,000 new jobs in California
-Generate between $1.2 billion and $1.4 billion in new direct tax revenue annually.
-Expand California's economy by between $16 billion and $23 billion annually
-Reduce state expenditures by over $200 million in law enforcement costs for arrests, prosecutions and imprisonment of cannabis users.
If passed, i think California would prosper, tourism would increase, the economy would improve, and us stoners will finally be able to smoke without a hassle. So all you voters in California, YES ON PROP 19!!! =D
Originally posted by another user
Imagine smoking weed in the streets without cops harassing
I think NAS would also move to California
.*Let me hear your guys's point on this controversial topic*
You must login or register to view this content.
You must login or register to view this content.
The following 6 users say thank you to 420 for this useful post:
10-16-2010, 12:16 AM
#56
Dewzy916
i am broski916
Originally posted by Knucks
Cops will still bust people for DWI's, and that's a huge cash trap just like drunk driving.
Also, I'm not sure about this but I think if it passes, a person is only allowed to be in possession of less than an ounce WHEN TRANSPORTING. The Cultivation aspect: I think everyone is allowed to have a 12 x 12 plot in their backyard. No minors can smoke it, obviously.
This is a good thing, I've been waiting for a while. There's good hope for it, because I heard that there is already a factory built up in the Oakland area that will supply people with cultivation products in a mass produced fashion.
Problem is, it will most likely not pass, because people in California are idiots. If it does pass, it will immediately be appealed by the state legislature, because they're all faggots in Sacramento.
Don't get me wrong though, I want this shit to pass badly.
Another major problem is that most jobs probably still won't hire you if you smoke, but on the other hand, that just means that urine cleaning agents revenues will sky rocket.
EVERYONE who lives in california that is 18 or older should vote yes on this. But read the actual legislature, because sometimes they purposely will lie in order to make you vote yes even though voting yes makes it banned or some shit. Just like they did with Prop 8.
Also, I'm not sure about this but I think if it passes, a person is only allowed to be in possession of less than an ounce WHEN TRANSPORTING. The Cultivation aspect: I think everyone is allowed to have a 12 x 12 plot in their backyard. No minors can smoke it, obviously.
This is a good thing, I've been waiting for a while. There's good hope for it, because I heard that there is already a factory built up in the Oakland area that will supply people with cultivation products in a mass produced fashion.
Problem is, it will most likely not pass, because people in California are idiots. If it does pass, it will immediately be appealed by the state legislature, because they're all faggots in Sacramento.
Don't get me wrong though, I want this shit to pass badly.
Another major problem is that most jobs probably still won't hire you if you smoke, but on the other hand, that just means that urine cleaning agents revenues will sky rocket.
EVERYONE who lives in california that is 18 or older should vote yes on this. But read the actual legislature, because sometimes they purposely will lie in order to make you vote yes even though voting yes makes it banned or some shit. Just like they did with Prop 8.
Sacramentans are not faggets
The following user thanked Dewzy916 for this useful post:
10-16-2010, 04:32 AM
#57
420
Kush Friendly
Originally posted by Thief
Please actually read the article, don't search weed.
Here from the article itself:
NORRISTOWN – During an emotional hearing, a Bucks County man was sentenced to prison for driving recklessly, under suspension and with traces of marijuana in his bloodstream at the time of a Montgomery Township crash that killed another driver.
Here from the article itself:
NORRISTOWN – During an emotional hearing, a Bucks County man was sentenced to prison for driving recklessly, under suspension and with traces of marijuana in his bloodstream at the time of a Montgomery Township crash that killed another driver.
marijuana lasts at least 30 days in a persons body so it's not necessarily exact, your argument is invalid.
---------- Post added at 11:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:28 PM ----------
Originally posted by .Robot
Do doctors smoke weed? Do lawyers smoke weed? Do teachers smoke weed? They are successful! They chose do do the right thing and stay away from drugs.
Like I said before, I RESPECT YOUR OPINION. There are responsible pot smokers but very little. The majority of pot smokers are very unsuccessful people! I am not saying you are lazy and unsuccessful but most pot smokers are.
My dad always told me not to smoke or do harmful things to my body and I am doing just fine.
Whatever though. Thats my opinion. I actually like have this discussion because it is very amusing. I have nothing against you though, please don't think that. I think you are a very smart person by the way you post.......
---------- Post added at 05:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:46 PM ----------
Well I am doing fine and I assume you are too. I like being drug free and I am simply expressing my opinion.
My dad was a drug user but is now clean. He has been clean for about 14 years. He knows what he is talking about.
Like I said before, I RESPECT YOUR OPINION. There are responsible pot smokers but very little. The majority of pot smokers are very unsuccessful people! I am not saying you are lazy and unsuccessful but most pot smokers are.
My dad always told me not to smoke or do harmful things to my body and I am doing just fine.
Whatever though. Thats my opinion. I actually like have this discussion because it is very amusing. I have nothing against you though, please don't think that. I think you are a very smart person by the way you post.......
---------- Post added at 05:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:46 PM ----------
Well I am doing fine and I assume you are too. I like being drug free and I am simply expressing my opinion.
My dad was a drug user but is now clean. He has been clean for about 14 years. He knows what he is talking about.
do doctors smoke weed? do teachers? and lawyers? i'm pretty sure some do and smoking weed is not going to make you unsuccessful, that's all on you and your willpower, don't blame your problems or societies remarks on a single subject. This could be said about any one thing, and i could go on and on, but i'm gonna stop.
10-16-2010, 08:38 AM
#59
192.168.1.1
Slave of the sky.
10-16-2010, 04:30 PM
#60
NeedaLifeSoon
Retired Life
I was preparing to argue that Marjiuna use does effect driving skills and came across some intersting studies.
I smoked pot for many years and was going to say that it felt as though I was impaired, but recent studies would argue otherwise.
Abuse of any substance has a negative effect and no one can argue that Marijiuna does not alter your current state of mind, but worse than alcohol , or even accepted prescripition medications is debatable.
However, Legaliztion is not going to fix the world unless your stoned enough to believe it.
You must login or register to view this content.
CONCLUSIONS
The major conclusions from the present program are summarized as follows:
* Current users of marijuana prefer THC doses of about 300 ug/kg to achieve their desired "high".
* It is possible to safely study the effects of marijuana on driving on highways or city streets in the presence of other traffic.
* Marijuana smoking impairs fundamental road tracking ability with the degree if impairment increasing as a function of the consumed THC dose.
* Marijuana smoking which delivers THC up to a 300 ug/kg dose slightly impairs the ability to maintain a constant headway while following another car.
* A low THC dose (100 ug/kg) does not impair driving ability in urban traffic to the same extent as a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of 0.04g%.
* Drivers under the influence of marijuana tend to over-estimate the adverse effects of the drug on their driving quality and compensate when they can; e.g. by increasing effort to accomplish the task, increasing headway or slowing down, or a combination of these.
* Drivers under the influence of alcohol tend to under-estimate the adverse effects of the drug on their driving quality and do not invest compensatory effort.
* The maximum road tracking impairment after the highest THC dose (300 ug/kg) was within a range of effects produced by many commonly used medicinal drugs and less than that associated with a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of 0.08g% in previous studies employing the same test.
* It is not possible to conclude anything about a driver's impairment on the basis of his/her plasma concentrations of THC and THC-COOH determined in a single sample.
You must login or register to view this content.
Marijuana
THC affects areas of the brain that control the body’s movements, balance, coordination, memory, and judgment, as well as sensations. Because these effects are multifaceted, more research is required to understand marijuana's impact on the ability of drivers to react to complex and unpredictable situations. However, we do know that:
A meta-analysis of approximately 60 experimental studies, including laboratory, driving simulator, and on-road experiments, found that behavioral and cognitive skills related to driving performance were impaired in a dose-dependent fashion with increasing THC blood levels.11
Evidence from both real and simulated driving studies indicates that marijuana can negatively affect a driver's attentiveness, perception of time and speed, and the ability to draw on information obtained from past experiences.
A study of over 3000 fatally-injured drivers in Australia showed that when marijuana was present in the blood of the driver they were much more likely to be at fault for the accident. And the higher the THC concentration, the more likely they were to be culpable.12
Research shows that impairment increases significantly when marijuana use is combined with alcohol.13 Studies have found that many drivers who test positive for alcohol also test positive for THC, making it clear that drinking and drugged driving are often linked behaviors.
I smoked pot for many years and was going to say that it felt as though I was impaired, but recent studies would argue otherwise.
Abuse of any substance has a negative effect and no one can argue that Marijiuna does not alter your current state of mind, but worse than alcohol , or even accepted prescripition medications is debatable.
However, Legaliztion is not going to fix the world unless your stoned enough to believe it.
You must login or register to view this content.
CONCLUSIONS
The major conclusions from the present program are summarized as follows:
* Current users of marijuana prefer THC doses of about 300 ug/kg to achieve their desired "high".
* It is possible to safely study the effects of marijuana on driving on highways or city streets in the presence of other traffic.
* Marijuana smoking impairs fundamental road tracking ability with the degree if impairment increasing as a function of the consumed THC dose.
* Marijuana smoking which delivers THC up to a 300 ug/kg dose slightly impairs the ability to maintain a constant headway while following another car.
* A low THC dose (100 ug/kg) does not impair driving ability in urban traffic to the same extent as a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of 0.04g%.
* Drivers under the influence of marijuana tend to over-estimate the adverse effects of the drug on their driving quality and compensate when they can; e.g. by increasing effort to accomplish the task, increasing headway or slowing down, or a combination of these.
* Drivers under the influence of alcohol tend to under-estimate the adverse effects of the drug on their driving quality and do not invest compensatory effort.
* The maximum road tracking impairment after the highest THC dose (300 ug/kg) was within a range of effects produced by many commonly used medicinal drugs and less than that associated with a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of 0.08g% in previous studies employing the same test.
* It is not possible to conclude anything about a driver's impairment on the basis of his/her plasma concentrations of THC and THC-COOH determined in a single sample.
You must login or register to view this content.
Marijuana
THC affects areas of the brain that control the body’s movements, balance, coordination, memory, and judgment, as well as sensations. Because these effects are multifaceted, more research is required to understand marijuana's impact on the ability of drivers to react to complex and unpredictable situations. However, we do know that:
A meta-analysis of approximately 60 experimental studies, including laboratory, driving simulator, and on-road experiments, found that behavioral and cognitive skills related to driving performance were impaired in a dose-dependent fashion with increasing THC blood levels.11
Evidence from both real and simulated driving studies indicates that marijuana can negatively affect a driver's attentiveness, perception of time and speed, and the ability to draw on information obtained from past experiences.
A study of over 3000 fatally-injured drivers in Australia showed that when marijuana was present in the blood of the driver they were much more likely to be at fault for the accident. And the higher the THC concentration, the more likely they were to be culpable.12
Research shows that impairment increases significantly when marijuana use is combined with alcohol.13 Studies have found that many drivers who test positive for alcohol also test positive for THC, making it clear that drinking and drugged driving are often linked behaviors.
10-16-2010, 09:08 PM
#62
Dan0692
Molestation Enthusiast
Originally posted by MR.420
i need to be the subject of one these studies for stoned driving, cuz i smoke the dankest bud everyday, so im pretty stoned while i drive, but the funny thing is i drive better, if i was the subject of a study, they would get positive results on me driving high lol.
It's probably because when not high, you are not worried about being stopped or pulled over for being under the influence so you drive casually. When you are high you are more cautious and therefore drive better. That's why police officers round my area look for people hunched forward concentrating on the road.
Personally I don't think any drug mixes with driving. I say save the fun till you get to your destination then get uber ripped
10-16-2010, 09:45 PM
#63
Fierceknucks
Former Staff
Originally posted by Broski916
Sacramentans are not faggets
I'm talking about the senate and legislatures
---------- Post added at 02:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:41 PM ----------
The reason people who smoke have no problem driving, is because they are used to being high. It's not about the whole "weed doesn't impair your ability to" bs. If you're high basically all the time, then being high is "normal". So driving while high is nothing to you.
Now, a person like me, who hasn't smoked pot normally for 2 years or so? If I were to smoke right now, let's say chonged a fat bowl to my head (which wouldn't be a problem for regular pot smokers) I would be in NO condition to drive or really do anything that required focused concentration.
10-16-2010, 11:43 PM
#64
420
Kush Friendly
Originally posted by Dan0692
It's probably because when not high, you are not worried about being stopped or pulled over for being under the influence so you drive casually. When you are high you are more cautious and therefore drive better. That's why police officers round my area look for people hunched forward concentrating on the road.
Personally I don't think any drug mixes with driving. I say save the fun till you get to your destination then get uber ripped
Personally I don't think any drug mixes with driving. I say save the fun till you get to your destination then get uber ripped
im more cautious cuz of cops? lol thats somewhat true, but i'm not hunched over like a grandma lol, iv'e been pulled over while i was high but the cops had no clue :p
---------- Post added at 06:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:41 PM ----------
Originally posted by Knucks
I'm talking about the senate and legislatures
---------- Post added at 02:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:41 PM ----------
The reason people who smoke have no problem driving, is because they are used to being high. It's not about the whole "weed doesn't impair your ability to" bs. If you're high basically all the time, then being high is "normal". So driving while high is nothing to you.
Now, a person like me, who hasn't smoked pot normally for 2 years or so? If I were to smoke right now, let's say chonged a fat bowl to my head (which wouldn't be a problem for regular pot smokers) I would be in NO condition to drive or really do anything that required focused concentration.
---------- Post added at 02:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:41 PM ----------
The reason people who smoke have no problem driving, is because they are used to being high. It's not about the whole "weed doesn't impair your ability to" bs. If you're high basically all the time, then being high is "normal". So driving while high is nothing to you.
Now, a person like me, who hasn't smoked pot normally for 2 years or so? If I were to smoke right now, let's say chonged a fat bowl to my head (which wouldn't be a problem for regular pot smokers) I would be in NO condition to drive or really do anything that required focused concentration.
yea i guess practice makes perfect
and yea, i didn't smoke for like a month, and then after, one day i got so shacked, it felt like my first time getting hig lol but i still drove fine :y:
Copyright © 2026, NextGenUpdate.
All Rights Reserved.
