Post: Should Gays Be Able To Adopt?
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06-30-2011, 10:46 PM
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Godfather057
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07-05-2011, 12:36 AM
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RAGEVSFURY
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Originally posted by Koalaa
It's the debate forum, it's what we gotta do.
I'm not saying that your opinion is wrong, I'm saying that it does little to help the situation.
I wasn't attacking you, I was making an observation, one which has proved itself viable time and time again. This seems to be a common misconception within the debate forum. Especially in God vs. Fact. xD I really do respect your opinion, mate, I just have to make the point that I don't agree with it.
A kid's life is never easy, and I do agree that growing up with homosexual parents could be difficult, but I just don't agree that we should sit here and do nothing about it while those kids are having trouble and those would-be parents sit without any hope of ever having a child at all. Of course there's surrogacy and artificial insemination, but I know many people who'd rather help a child that's already in this world than bring one of their own into it. To me, that's completely selfless.
My whole argument wasn't on the basis of the child's safety, it was on the basis that we're too afraid to do anything to help the child that's going to these things, or the same-sex couples who want to be parents, therefore allowing this ignorance to spread, and making things even worse for homosexual couples everywhere.
They shouldn't have to suffer because we won't take action. (By action, I don't mean an armed revolt or anything, but more-so the advocation of rights that every human being has.) We know the world has become selfish when we're willing to advocate our rights, but not the rights of other individuals. (I know gays fight for their rights a lot, but it's not exactly helping when not too many people outside of that are willing to stand up for them as well. More with this specific situation, though.)
Please don't assume I criticize without reason. :/
EDIT: On a side note, E0000B6FAF25838 explained that he knew that it wasn't the parent's fault, therefore they shouldn't suffer. Since his opinion is more in-tune with mine, it's not exactly a point for me to criticize, as I'd pretty much become a hypocrite. And I don't really feel the need to criticize it because I agree with it. It's not the parent's fault, it's not the child's fault, it's our fault.
I still think gays should be able to adopt, utilize the concept of surrogacy, or use artificial insemination, though. Everyone has a right to have a child, it just depends on when they're actually ready, and it's kind of bad the gays have to wait til' we're ready.
I'm not saying that your opinion is wrong, I'm saying that it does little to help the situation.
I wasn't attacking you, I was making an observation, one which has proved itself viable time and time again. This seems to be a common misconception within the debate forum. Especially in God vs. Fact. xD I really do respect your opinion, mate, I just have to make the point that I don't agree with it.
A kid's life is never easy, and I do agree that growing up with homosexual parents could be difficult, but I just don't agree that we should sit here and do nothing about it while those kids are having trouble and those would-be parents sit without any hope of ever having a child at all. Of course there's surrogacy and artificial insemination, but I know many people who'd rather help a child that's already in this world than bring one of their own into it. To me, that's completely selfless.
My whole argument wasn't on the basis of the child's safety, it was on the basis that we're too afraid to do anything to help the child that's going to these things, or the same-sex couples who want to be parents, therefore allowing this ignorance to spread, and making things even worse for homosexual couples everywhere.
They shouldn't have to suffer because we won't take action. (By action, I don't mean an armed revolt or anything, but more-so the advocation of rights that every human being has.) We know the world has become selfish when we're willing to advocate our rights, but not the rights of other individuals. (I know gays fight for their rights a lot, but it's not exactly helping when not too many people outside of that are willing to stand up for them as well. More with this specific situation, though.)
Please don't assume I criticize without reason. :/
EDIT: On a side note, E0000B6FAF25838 explained that he knew that it wasn't the parent's fault, therefore they shouldn't suffer. Since his opinion is more in-tune with mine, it's not exactly a point for me to criticize, as I'd pretty much become a hypocrite. And I don't really feel the need to criticize it because I agree with it. It's not the parent's fault, it's not the child's fault, it's our fault.
I still think gays should be able to adopt, utilize the concept of surrogacy, or use artificial insemination, though. Everyone has a right to have a child, it just depends on when they're actually ready, and it's kind of bad the gays have to wait til' we're ready.
Alright m8,fair enough then.
07-06-2011, 08:04 PM
#73
Godfather057
Bounty hunter
If gays adopt then the child wont have a propper indication as to what each genders role is in a normal marage. i.e. man and woman.
Men and women are equal but provide different pices to the puzzle of life, If you replace a pice with a peace that was isn't ment to fit the final product wont come out right. yes, in some cases the pices will fit together and the child will turn out fine but children need to have an idea what a hetrosexual marage is like; because at the end of the day that child will be a father or a mother and that child will have no clue how to act or what to expect form him or herself (or what to expect of their spouce)
What do you guys think, not trying to bash any one i just want your opionoin?
also Albert Ensine was a pantheist, he didnt blieve in a traditional God but believed that their was one
Men and women are equal but provide different pices to the puzzle of life, If you replace a pice with a peace that was isn't ment to fit the final product wont come out right. yes, in some cases the pices will fit together and the child will turn out fine but children need to have an idea what a hetrosexual marage is like; because at the end of the day that child will be a father or a mother and that child will have no clue how to act or what to expect form him or herself (or what to expect of their spouce)
What do you guys think, not trying to bash any one i just want your opionoin?
also Albert Ensine was a pantheist, he didnt blieve in a traditional God but believed that their was one
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