Post: Sexuality
10-16-2011, 04:46 PM #1
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Anyway, onto the debate itself- sexuality. There are many different labels of sexuality, so I'd thought I'd list them below(largely C/P to save time, if I missed any or falsely described anything let me know):

  • Heterosexuality- Is the sexual attraction between members of the opposite sexes such as a man attracted to a woman and vice-versa.
  • Homosexuality- is the sexual attraction between members of the same sexes such as man to man and woman to woman.
  • Bisexuality- Is the sexual attraction to both the opposite and same sexes such as man to man and man to woman, woman to woman and woman to man.
  • Asexuality- Is also known as nonsexuality which is the lack of sexual attraction and sexual interest towards others.
  • Polysexuality- Is the sexual attraction to more than one gender but do not wish to be known as bisexual as it implies that there are only two binary sexes, do not confuse this with pansexuality ('pan' meaning all) and ('poly' meaning many).
  • Pansexuality- Is the sexual attraction towards people regardless of gender also known as omnisexuality. Some pansexuals refer to themselves as gender blind as to them gender is insignificant in determining whether they will be sexually attracted to others.
  • Transexualism- Is when a person identifies themselves as a certain sex different from their own biological one. For example a person may be born male, and is uncomfortable with their gender as a male and changes to a female, or vice-versa.

Personally I'm heterosexual, however I have no problems with other people expressing their own sexuality and being who they really are.

Feel free to comment below and be honest, then hopefully this thread can be used to maturely discuss sexuality away from the nonsense you so often see elsewhere Smile
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10-17-2011, 10:33 AM #11
Originally posted by TornadoCreator View Post
Wow, opened up a can of worms here haven't you.


Well, this is a debating section and I thought another more mature debate would help amongst all the Call of Duty threads You must login or register to view this content.

Originally posted by another user
I'm about to be extremely controversial as I'm about to re-define the sexualities and add one more...

  • Heterosexuality - The sexual attraction between members of the opposite sex. I have no issue with this definition, here we agree.
  • Homosexuality - The sexual attraction between members of the same sex. Again, we agree.
  • Bisexuality - The sexual attraction towards members of either sex. Again, we agree.
  • Asexuality - The lack of a sexual attraction. Four for four, we agree again.
  • Polysexuality - Ok, this is where we disagree. Polysexuals are bisexuals who are too pretentious to call themselves bi or somehow deluded into thinking there's more than two sexes. There isn't. This is just another name for bisexual and it's unnecessary because it doesn't matter how much they dislike the implication that there's only two genders, there ARE only two genders.
  • Pansexuality - Again, this is another needless pretentious term for bisexual. It serves no purpose whatsoever except for identifying pretentious douches.
  • Transexualism - Not a sexuality and should not be linked with sexuality, if anything this is a form of body dysmorphic disorder.
Regarding Polysexuality I assumed it was being sexually open to anyone born with 'a bit of both' e.g. hermaphrodites, although as I say that was just an assumption.

Aside from that, I didn't want to force my views of sexuality on others in the very first post regarding stuff like Transexualism etc, so I tried to put the most 'acceptable' descriptions I could(I had to edit the C/P, the grammar was terrible :batSmile.

Originally posted by another user
Ok, that's the list so far. I feel we should add...

  • Paedosexuality/Paedophilia - The sexual attraction towards pre-pubescent children.
Now, according to any encyclopaedia there are four sexualities. Heterosexual, Homosexual, Bisexual and Asexual. This is all, and I agree with this so far, the additional so-called sexualities posted earlier are unnecessary, but I feel we should add Paedosexual (and perhaps Gentrosexual; the sexual attraction towards the elderly), because it's so misunderstood and most certainly fits the criterion for a sexuality. It's a specific human characteristic that someone cannot become aroused without. To label it a fetish I feel is a way of masking it and pushing it to a point where people can ignore it, this is why the term "Paedosexual" doesn't actually exist but the term "Paedophilia" does.

The reason I feel it's important to recognise this fifth sexuality is all four of the others involve only consenting adults (or in the case of asexuality no-one), so no reasonable person can have an issue with them. But with Paedophiles, they cannot engage in any sexual acts without involving someone who by definition cannot give informed consent. This is a major issue, because in our society we ostracise these people without a second thought. People seem incapable of considering that "Child Rapist" and "Paedophile" are not the same thing, (oh and I hate the term "Child Molester", it's not "molestation" it's fúcking rape, call it what it is). A rapist is a sick twisted person trying to force themselves on others, usually to fulfil a power-fantasy. A paedophile is someone unfortunate enough to have been born with a sexual attraction to the only group of people they can't have sex with. There lives must be extremely difficult and they must feel extremely frightened every day. The world says how they'd slaughter "paedophiles" and how they're the scum of the earth constantly. Even smart, liberal minded people make these statements. This is why I bring this up, because honestly, how is anyone supposed to suppress these urges, come to terms with their desires and eventually get help from medical professionals if they can't even admit it to themselves without massive self-loathing and admitting it to even the closest of friends and family would make them shun them instantly. This isn't like homosexuality, paedophiles will never be able to stop feeling attracted to kids, so they need an outlet, therapy perhaps, and while we're making them out to be the scum of the world more and more of them are falling apart. It's common place for paedophiles to commit suicide when they admit their sexuality to themselves out of fear that they'll be labelled a child molester when they'd never dream of raping someone. This is the truly oppressed sexuality... the sad thing is, no-one can even stand up for them without being accused of being a child molester themselves, and that accusation terrifies people. Not me though, I'll always speak out for the minority.


I more-or-less agree thinking about it. I think pretty much everything you just said is being hampered down by weak-minded people though, and the 'politically correct' A.K.A. 'PC' folk. They piss me off so f*cking much No

Originally posted by another user
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Originally posted by another user
Oh, and I'm Bisexual, the real kind of bisexual too, the kind that has sex with both men and women, not just the kind that says they're bi and kisses someone of the same sex when they're a bit drunk. Obviously I have no issue with other sexualities as I'm not a complete twat.


Fair play, although inevitably you're gonna get some stupid quotes for saying that which you should probably be ready for :p
10-17-2011, 12:33 PM #12
TornadoCreator
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Originally posted by Clutch
Well, this is a debating section and I thought another more mature debate would help amongst all the Call of Duty threads You must login or register to view this content.

Regarding Polysexuality I assumed it was being sexually open to anyone born with 'a bit of both' e.g. hermaphrodites, although as I say that was just an assumption.

I honestly hadn't considered that possibility, but when I was a member of the LGB society in my university, all the people who used names like Polysexual, Omnisexual or Pansexual where just Bisexual people who wanted an excuse to be different (as though Bisexuality itself wasn't enough). It's always pissed me off because all it does is complicate things and muddy the water when we really need everyone to be as open and straight forward as possible if we're going to lobby for changes to laws and civil rights. The gay community can't expect straight people to take them seriously is there's people claiming to be every technicolour sexuality they can come up with, as someone who feels strongly about this, I find people who identify with these alternative titles to be as annoying as people who insist of giving music ridiculously overly-specific sub-genres just so they can feel like they're part of an exclusive group.

Originally posted by Clutch
Aside from that, I didn't want to force my views of sexuality on others in the very first post regarding stuff like Transexualism etc, so I tried to put the most 'acceptable' descriptions I could(I had to edit the C/P, the grammar was terrible :batSmile.

I can respect that, I was assuming you where simply stating the popular opinion as you saw it rather than necessarily your opinion.

Originally posted by Clutch
Fair play, although inevitably you're gonna get some stupid quotes for saying that which you should probably be ready for :p

I honestly don't care. I'm not embarrassed in the slightest by my sexuality. There's nothing anyone can quote or misread from me that would be more damning than things I'm prepared to say about myself openly. I'm proud of my lack of shame, it allows me to be me at all times without bravado, and while it may lessen my social circles somewhat, I know the people I'm friends with genuinely like me; not some mask I've put up for them... that makes it worth it.
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10-17-2011, 05:39 PM #14
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i'm hetrosexual but i think its a great thing for people to be open about their sexual feelings, i'm not phased by gays, lesbians i consider them as normal folk. theres no right or wrong way to be sexual, just what you find comfortable.

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10-17-2011, 08:22 PM #15
DinoFreak
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im heterosexual but sometimes i feel like what do bisexual people and gay people feel like when there kissing the same genders as there own.

In regards i love bi and gay people but i respect the choice, like i said im heterosexual but as long as they don't cross the line everything is fine.
10-17-2011, 08:33 PM #16
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Originally posted by TornadoCreator View Post
I honestly hadn't considered that possibility, but when I was a member of the LGB society in my university, all the people who used names like Polysexual, Omnisexual or Pansexual where just Bisexual people who wanted an excuse to be different (as though Bisexuality itself wasn't enough). It's always pissed me off because all it does is complicate things and muddy the water when we really need everyone to be as open and straight forward as possible if we're going to lobby for changes to laws and civil rights. The gay community can't expect straight people to take them seriously is there's people claiming to be every technicolour sexuality they can come up with, as someone who feels strongly about this, I find people who identify with these alternative titles to be as annoying as people who insist of giving music ridiculously overly-specific sub-genres just so they can feel like they're part of an exclusive group.


I can respect that, I was assuming you where simply stating the popular opinion as you saw it rather than necessarily your opinion.


I honestly don't care. I'm not embarrassed in the slightest by my sexuality. There's nothing anyone can quote or misread from me that would be more damning than things I'm prepared to say about myself openly. I'm proud of my lack of shame, it allows me to be me at all times without bravado, and while it may lessen my social circles somewhat, I know the people I'm friends with genuinely like me; not some mask I've put up for them... that makes it worth it.


Bisexuality is often associated with pansexuality as its umbrella term. Bisexuality, in its most literal definition, is the attraction (typically sexual) to multiple (typically two) sexes. Pansexuality encompasses the attitude that gender or gender identity (as well as sexuality) do not matter, and that platonic relationships are just as, if not more, preferable as sexual relationships.

I'm obviously bisexual, but I'm more specifically pansexual. It's a term more commonly associated with my views on sexuality, and I have a less difficult time explaining that to people than with the term bisexual.

It's not because anyone's a pretentious douche, it's because the term's definition fits more closely than just bisexuality. I don't know what pansexuals you've met, but I'm very well aware that I'm more or less just bisexual.
10-17-2011, 09:12 PM #17
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I don't think everyone is really against homosexuality. I just think that flamboyancy is what gets on peoples nerves. But on the other hand, I see why marriage is a touchy subject. Because marriage is a strictly religious bonding, so if homosexuals were aloud to marry, there would be no point.
10-18-2011, 01:41 AM #18
TornadoCreator
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Originally posted by Amor. View Post
I don't think everyone is really against homosexuality. I just think that flamboyancy is what gets on peoples nerves. But on the other hand, I see why marriage is a touchy subject. Because marriage is a strictly religious bonding, so if homosexuals were aloud to marry, there would be no point.


Again, another person makes excuses for barring gay marriage because of stupid religious bullshit, to quote myself in a previous topic:

"Actually, 'marriage' was based of the pagan ritual of 'handfasting' which was to claim to be linked to another in a matter of loving betrothal and was performed for both heterosexual and homosexual couples as well as for non-sexual bonds who wished to celebrate their closeness, such as devoted friends or siblings.

As for the specifics of Marriage itself, it wasn't actually a religious ceremony at first but a legal ceremony. It was created by the royal and noble families of Europe during pre-medieval times as a way of reassuring a man that his children where is own as marriage was a promise of sexual exclusivity and infidelity could be punished as a crime.

Then there's the consideration that many religion have no problem with gay people marrying, Pentecostal churches for example would happily marry gay people if they could, so why should they not be allowed to as if follows the rules of their religion. Surely each church should be allowed to accept couples and turn couples away as they wish, and as such no government intervention is needed or wanted at all. Gay marriage should be legal, if a specific church is anti-gay they can refuse to marry gay people... chances are the gay couple wouldn't be going to an anti-gay church anyway would they.

Marriage is neither a religious ceremony nor is it a relationship. It's a contract between to people which legally defines each other as family and each others next of kin, there is NO reason at all for stopping gay people from engaging in this contract any more than there's a reason from stopping them owning property or signing a business contract. You're either ignorant of the details or marriage or a pathetic homophobe making excuses to exclude gay people, kindly think before posting."


Now, I would like to think you're not actually against gay marriage based on the apparent tone of your post, but this is a stupid claim that I wish people would stop making. If you honestly think your marriage suddenly becomes pointless because a gay couple who you don't know and who have no effect on you at all are given the same social contract options then that is a truly sad comment on your opinion of your relationships and their value and I feel sorry for your future partners.

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Originally posted by SLV
Bisexuality is often associated with pansexuality as its umbrella term. Bisexuality, in its most literal definition, is the attraction (typically sexual) to multiple (typically two) sexes. Pansexuality encompasses the attitude that gender or gender identity (as well as sexuality) do not matter, and that platonic relationships are just as, if not more, preferable as sexual relationships.

I'm obviously bisexual, but I'm more specifically pansexual. It's a term more commonly associated with my views on sexuality, and I have a less difficult time explaining that to people than with the term bisexual.

It's not because anyone's a pretentious douche, it's because the term's definition fits more closely than just bisexuality. I don't know what pansexuals you've met, but I'm very well aware that I'm more or less just bisexual.


That's fair enough. As part of an LGB society I met a lot of people who insisted on creating, often inventing, entirely new names for their apparent "sexuality" just so they could be unique. It was as though being an unusual sexuality was some kind of badge of pride they could wear. Really, I see little reason to use the term pansexual when bisexual means exactly the same thing. It can easily be inferred from the word "bisexual" that gender is not an issue for you and there are only two genders and you find them both sexually attractive, to use another term is doing nothing more than needlessly complicating an issue which could honestly do with simplification. With sexuality still vying for rights and equality in many countries, it's easier if we keep things simple, and honestly, even in a personal relationship I see no reason to complicate the issue with bullshit minutia based "sexualities" which are identical in all practical ways. If you want to use the term, fair enough, but in my experience, people who use any term other than bisexual when they mean bisexual are doing it for attention or effect, and often they're the "straight posers" just looking for an excuse to be "alternative" too which is a further annoyance.

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