Post: Sexuality
10-16-2011, 04:46 PM #1
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Anyway, onto the debate itself- sexuality. There are many different labels of sexuality, so I'd thought I'd list them below(largely C/P to save time, if I missed any or falsely described anything let me know):

  • Heterosexuality- Is the sexual attraction between members of the opposite sexes such as a man attracted to a woman and vice-versa.
  • Homosexuality- is the sexual attraction between members of the same sexes such as man to man and woman to woman.
  • Bisexuality- Is the sexual attraction to both the opposite and same sexes such as man to man and man to woman, woman to woman and woman to man.
  • Asexuality- Is also known as nonsexuality which is the lack of sexual attraction and sexual interest towards others.
  • Polysexuality- Is the sexual attraction to more than one gender but do not wish to be known as bisexual as it implies that there are only two binary sexes, do not confuse this with pansexuality ('pan' meaning all) and ('poly' meaning many).
  • Pansexuality- Is the sexual attraction towards people regardless of gender also known as omnisexuality. Some pansexuals refer to themselves as gender blind as to them gender is insignificant in determining whether they will be sexually attracted to others.
  • Transexualism- Is when a person identifies themselves as a certain sex different from their own biological one. For example a person may be born male, and is uncomfortable with their gender as a male and changes to a female, or vice-versa.

Personally I'm heterosexual, however I have no problems with other people expressing their own sexuality and being who they really are.

Feel free to comment below and be honest, then hopefully this thread can be used to maturely discuss sexuality away from the nonsense you so often see elsewhere Smile
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03-13-2013, 03:49 PM #254
Keomo
Can’t trickshot me!
Originally posted by Woof
Gay men might be jealous of you being around men mostly, maybe? You can use them as a tool (in a good sense), to get information on a woman they hang around with you may like. (Vice-versa with them) Yes, they do tend to let their hair down a bit more, but sometimes they let it down a little too much. Not very nice hearing your friends talk about their periods...






  1. I didn't.
  2. No.
  3. Let's change the question from 'turing' into 'acting'. Depending on the environment, if it would put you in an unsafe situation, etc. I believe it may be necessary.



Originally posted by Woof
I just posted on this topic. I'm not suddenly responsible for your educate, or anyone else's. I'm not educating clutch. I'm sure he knows just as much, or more than me.


I highly doubt that, since you know, your actually gay? You know more then any of us do about homosexuality, no matter how much someone does research on something, they'll never truly know unless they experience it first hand, and im pretty sure you were interested in learning more about yourself as well am i right? Pretty sure you did a little bit of research cause you needed it to feel more resolute.


I will answer questions, but not when they're silly.


Originally posted by Woof
I don't really see how a discussion on sexuality can be won? Especially when you throw references of homosexuality being the reason of prison rape. That's insulting, therefor homophobic.


Not necessarily, once a man has sex with another male, he is instantly gay, no questions asked. Which is why i use prison as a reference, i wasnt talking about the rape my friend... i was talking about the relationship a man shares with another male. He isnt surrounded by women, he has no means of pleasuring himself at night and day, and he see's a man, he has an entrance that was not meant for sex, and he uses that to pleasure himself. I was saying that you have gay people and jail, and if you go there that is all you have to look forward to. So i was saying that as a straight male you have a higher likelihood of sharing a relationship with a male. Also i think i said before that you don't actually need to have sex.
Desperation means a lot, but the argument could be said that if a male cannot change his sexuality, why do prison inmates feel the need to have the touch of another male at their side? Surely they would know that they are going against their inherent sexuality right?

Originally posted by Woof
(I'm not even sure who is making the references to the prison rape sh*t. I just ignored it, never checked the usernames. I have a strong feeling it was you though.)


I'm pretty sure it was me, but im letting you know that prison culture has had a strong effect on society, and not everything from the inside stays inside after all. It does indeed contribute. Also i know that gay dudes can be used as informats when you want to know about a woman, and let me tell you i do not like being informed about when a woman conducts her period, it is not very friendly.

Please elaborate on the answers to your questions, i believe that adjusting to your environment is important, but please let us know about the answers to question 1. and 2. Did you feel as though you didnt have much choice in the manner on your sexuality or? Also why do you feel that you cannot change it if you wanted to?
03-13-2013, 04:48 PM #255
Keomo
Can’t trickshot me!
Originally posted by Woof
I meant in a general knowledge of sexual orientation (other sexualities, theories, politics, etc), not just homosexuality.


Incorrect. I could state the obvious and refer to bisexuality, but even if a straight male has sex with another male. It's irrelevant with their sexuality. I had sex with a girl when I was in the closet, but I'm not heterosexual/bisexual.


Some may disagree, but I (and Clutch I think) believe sexuality is not that black and white. Nobody is in fact 100%. Consciously you may think about the same-sex sexually, and think "hell no". Let's change the situation to two computers. A MacBook pro and a sh*tty old windows laptop. You would obviously choose the MacBook pro, but subconsciously you would 'cope' with a sh*tty old windows laptop. I haven't really put that in great words, but I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.




  • 1 (Did you choose your sexuality?)

When I was 5, I found myself having what some by describe as 'romantic' attractions towards the same-sex. Once I reached puberty, I was sexually attracted to the same-sex. I had no conscience choice, or any control over my feelings.




  • 2 (Could you change your sexuality?)

I had tried. The simple answer is no. I'm not really sure how I can go into more depth with this question. I'll create my own question.



  • 3 (Could you act your sexuality?)

Technically, yes. When I was dating girls I just felt very out of place, and awkward. The 'physical' side of things felt sickening to me also. The thought of female genitalia turns me off instantly. I know you're going to ask me, so I'll save you the trouble. No I didn't have a 'victorious finish'. She then felt insecure about herself, long story...


Well now that i asked you i feel kind of bad that i did. Still, that has contributed much to the topic.

What we have here is someone who has stated that they couldn't control their sexuality, tried to change it AND dated women, but did not experience a very pleasurable feeling, but the exact opposite. In old research, i have discovered that there were people who could not control their sexuality, wanted to change it, but are either met with extreme difficulty or are just inherently that sexuality.

Woof has stated he had been that way since he was 5 correct? And that when he had gotten older it had done nothing but increase to shift in that general direction. Which means that woof has presented himself as evidence agaisnt the question i asked about whether sexuality can be chosen or not. AND TO TOP IT OFF, he has told us that he had tried to change it, we dont necessarily know why he did, and he doesn't have to tell us because that might be a bit too personal, but what we do know is that he had a reason, he tried to choose, but he failed or didnt meet with much success, only sorrow and sadness and a feeling of insecurities with the various women(Not just him but her as well perhaps) he had dealt with or tried to deal with.

I wonder if james is satisfied, if they come back i wonder what they will say.

Actually what is clutch going to say to contribute to what woof just said? Cause right now since woof actually answered and gave good details I just want to see if anyone else can put in their 2 cents. GDP no jokes please but I'm sure your aware at how this was a very nice response.

Woof went through his own experiences with trying to deal with his sexuality, where he is at right now in his life is of no concern to us, but im sure he may go into more detail of how he dealt with being "himself" around other people in a few more posts.

Personally when i interact around people i don't act like anything, but if i see someone of my sexual orientation trying to holler at me, then naturally i will holler back. However you have people who will troll you into making them think they are interested, so you have to watch out for this as well. How do you know when someone is genuinely interested in you? Hard to tell, maybe you can use intuition and some other strange sort of human radar that we all naturally have? But you would act differently around someone your attracted to then someone you arent correct? Most likely. Still for me i try to maintain myself around any and everyone so that i do not lose my composure and have someone catch me off guard emotionally/mentally.

Pretty sure everyone else does that too sometimes. As we all may have learned at one point in our lives or another, expressing yourself can be dangerous. But if you dont do it enough you may lose your personality and begin to fade. You have to let your ideals and persona sometimes bleed into other people, so you can more easily interact with them, some people are so easily ignored they are treated as if they are ghosts. Again i thank woof for taking the questions and his answers seriously.

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03-13-2013, 05:05 PM #256
.James
Who’s Jim Erased?
Originally posted by Woof

You either have learning disabilities, or you're just ignorant. There is no excuse with all the information available on the internet.


I'm neither, but still:

Originally posted by Woof

  • 1 (Did you choose your sexuality?)

When I was 5, I found myself having what some by describe as 'romantic' attractions towards the same-sex. Once I reached puberty, I was sexually attracted to the same-sex. I had no conscience choice, or any control over my feelings.




  • 2 (Could you change your sexuality?)

I had tried. The simple answer is no. I'm not really sure how I can go into more depth with this question. I'll create my own question.



  • 3 (Could you act your sexuality?)

Technically, yes. When I was dating girls I just felt very out of place, and awkward. The 'physical' side of things felt sickening to me also. The thought of female genitalia turns me off instantly. I know you're going to ask me, so I'll save you the trouble. No I didn't have a 'victorious finish'. She then felt insecure about herself, long story...


Thanks for answering the questions maturely and honestly. Not really sure what else I can say.

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03-13-2013, 06:44 PM #257
GDP
"Child please..." - C. Johnson
Originally posted by .James View Post
I'm neither, but still:



Thanks for answering the questions maturely and honestly. Not really sure what else I can say.


This.

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04-05-2013, 01:39 AM #258
Kylee.
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Personally i dont like gay men id rather a couple of a man and woman or 2 women but 2 men it just doesnt seem right i dont have nothing against the people but thats just what i thinkSmile
04-05-2013, 09:39 AM #259
.James
Who’s Jim Erased?
Originally posted by Kylee. View Post
Personally i dont like gay men id rather a couple of a man and woman or 2 women but 2 men it just doesnt seem right i dont have nothing against the people but thats just what i thinkSmile


But if 2 women is fine why is 2 men wrong?
04-05-2013, 09:28 PM #260
ResistTheSun
In Flames Much?
Originally posted by .James View Post
But if 2 women is fine why is 2 men wrong?


Because it gay!
It because it makes people feel uncomfortable mainly as public display of affection is not something most Brits do.
Nothing else I can add to this thread already added enough I feel.

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04-05-2013, 10:54 PM #261
Joey Essex
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I'm heterosexual and i don't mind 'gays' or whatever.. but it's the annoying fuckers that act overly gay trying attract attention, then i hate gays
04-06-2013, 10:32 PM #262
Originally posted by Joey
I'm heterosexual and i don't mind 'gays' or whatever.. but it's the annoying fuckers that act overly gay trying attract attention, then i hate gays


Most gay people aren't like that, nor are most straight people. Your problem is with the attitude, not the sexuality.

Originally posted by ResistTheSun View Post
Because it gay!
It because it makes people feel uncomfortable mainly as public display of affection is not something most Brits do.


It makes you feel uncomfortable, and it doesn't directly affect you. Therefore, just look away. Stop discriminating on such stupid grounds.

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