I do not like being called a corrupt, immature, ego crazed, try hard staff member.

Makes me wonder why you're still on the site, that's a very negative list you have right there.

River,

Sometimes I feel like you're Bi-Polar. You make constructive ideas one week and tear the place down the next.

Are there issues with the site and how its run, of course, but point out another without similar issues.
I do not like being called a corrupt, immature, ego crazed, try hard staff member.
It is obviously a thankless volunteer job done by some that like being here and want to see the site grow and keep its members staying on.

Most other sites I see do not purge inactive members, nor do they endorse the kind of constant negativity shown by members towards the site or its staff.
Not everyone that says they like it here are kiss ass, mod wannabies either.

I've been around this place for a while and I've seen it change over time. It can never be the place it was in 08/09 when it was so much smaller and everyone knew each other. And go back and look at how some staff talked to members back then. It was often much worse than now.

I only know that the current staff is working much harder on things that will bring new interest in the site, from outside and within.
That glitching and hacks are likely to remain things of the past and new ideas and concepts are being constantly worked on to help with that effort.

Yet most times those efforts are ridiculed by some of our existing members and it becomes extremely frustrating to make the effort to help the site only to be criticized for doing so.

Anyway, You felt the need to vent and so did I.

But if you have been with NGU for a long time, I would think that you would like to see it be around for a long time to come.

It feels like a kick in the gut to respected members say they hate it here now, and the natural reaction of anyone trying to make it a better place would be to say, " So why do you keep logging in?"

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So anyone that likes it here is an ass kisser?
You have had to deal with more personal attacks than many on the site, so I'll cut you some slack, but River's comments go well beyond the issues you have had to deal with.
His is an attack on most of the site's operations as well it's staff.
My comments to him are just as applicable to you.

See, everyone complains about problems but never gives a solution to them. River has, and that is why i respect him. Everyone else is doing it because older members are doing it and they are "trending" with them. That is why myself and others give them the "$#@! off" attitude because they complain but do not want to help or partake in helping the site fix the problems or give sensible solutions to help out.

Good post above me.

Honestly, if you suggest something to me and it makes sense I will take it into consideration, no doubt about it. If you feel your suggestion isn't getting recognition drop a link on my wall, I'll leave feedback/implement it. What is the use in posting a list of complaints about the site? Surely you're either here to leave solutions or shouldn't be here at all?

I think members feel like they are on the outside of the system and don't express their opinions to a staff member in a well-written and delivered suggestion or concearn. Rather they complain to the rest of the forum user base and don't offer any solutions as many posters above have said.

There is a suggestion section dedicated for suggestions (duh) but many staff are happy to help members through PM's or VM's. Let it be known that it is easy to PM a staff member



Yes you are very right. We ALL make the community and we can all work to make it better.

I quoted you because I wanted to expand on your post a little. I hope you don't mind.

Well lets see what we can do to get members suggestions or solutions noticed by Outsider, because frankly some members make great suggestions only for them to be ignored or never seen. I mean I see both sides of the coin because I've been on both ends of it before myself. Like I said though, sensible solutions, not personal wants, is needed. Some members tend to forget that.