(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); The thread that was the shining light of the last two debating sections(ugh, really?) that was God vs Fact has been trashed or something(ugh, again) so this thread is here to take the place of that one.

Some extremely basic terminology...

Theist: believes in a god(s).
Deist: believes in a god(s) that created the universe but subsequently abandoned it and/or believes that reason and observation of the natural world are sufficient to determine the existence of god(s).
Atheist: does not believe in a god(s).
Agnostic: does not claim to know if a god exists or believes that such knowledge cannot be known, depending on the definition. Typically when I personally use this label I'm referring to the former.
Gnostic: claims to know one way or the other if a god exists.

There are some more but that's the basics down. I'm an agnostic atheist. What are you and why?

Edit: Thanks to whichever mod/admin butchered the thread's title and poll. The poll now makes no sense whatsoever.

Time isn't necessarily an indicator of validity. There are plenty of nonsensical things that OAPs believe, for example, that don't hold a candle to the logic a kid could come up with as a refutation.



Correct.



This logic doesn't work for god. If you believed the earth was round before there was absolutely any evidence supporting it, rationally, you were wrong. The same goes for the other examples. On top of that, these are a few discoveries compared to an infinite number of undiscovered things, one of which is your god. The odds aren't very favourable.



Whilst true, that doesn't justify the belief rationally. But (I think) we've already agreed on faith being irrational, so that's fine.



Correct.



You believe and I disbelieve. The truth is whatever it is irrespective of that.



Hi there, god of the gaps. Glad you could join us.



The growing up bit was in reference to it offending you. People being critical of perceptively irrational beliefs really shouldn't be offensive. At all.



There's no practical difference, from the perspective of the offended, between feeling offended and feeling like your belief is threatened. They tend to come hand in hand with regards to religious beliefs.

Now, if I deeply upset somebody, I'll lay off and suggest they back out of the debate and do some thinking on their own. I do care, but not about somebody being 'offended'. That usually merely means they're displeased that their belief is being challenged when so typically in society today they're protected from that for whatever bizarre reason.



Intentionally or not, you've taken my comments out of context.



Explain.

I haven't looked in the debate section in a while but seeing that the previous thread was closed is not surprising to me at all. What is surprising is that some people are still acting very immature and are not treating this as a debate but rather posting comments that are vile and inappropriate for properly debating and rebutting eachother's beliefs. It is a shame that a decent debate cannot be maintained as this is a very interesting topic and hearing other views can strengthen or change your own beliefs.


Edit: Also there are some people from all sides who seem to make irrational posts, while then again there are some from all sides who continue to make valid and argumentative rebuttals. It is too bad that there isn't a moderator that would straighten the bad apples in this thread out, maybe then participation would increase.

Posts like this aren't much help without you quoting direct examples.

It's a gaming forum, lighten up. You aren't going to find some deep philosophical debate here so have some fun. Here's a pony moon walking to Fleetwood Mac to lighten the mood...

not everything in the universe can be explained, I dont see how people can think there is not Someone else out there that is doing the things science cant explain.

To assume God does something just because we don't understand it is intellectually lazy. If that's the attitude we take technological advancement would come to a stop

What Pricey said.

Also, your argument is a fallacious argument called the You must login or register to view this content.. Read the linked page, it refutes the argument very, very well.

Well for now i believe there is God because of the fact that somethings are still not known and probably wont be known for many years. My belief might change then but not until then. Clutch, the website you linked is a wiki. site and i dont see a sources section.

Sources? For... logic..? Since when did basic logic require a source?