Post: GT6 Game Physics Testing
04-30-2014, 09:03 PM #1
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Here are some videos (I can only add 2 so Ill link post where videos are posted when I can)



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Jounijkk, kazzbakkisback, nextgole, OdeFinn, P$ycho, policedu, q-k, turbo_nova2l, tyronekfc
08-31-2015, 04:10 PM #1010
OdeFinn
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@Jouni, yes, Toyota C64 gearbox, with gear ratios which are used with Torsen LSD, Quaife helical and Torsen are pretty similar.
Suspension is stock unless spring tension aren't counted, original springs are so soft at GT6 isn't going so low.
But replica more or less 1:1, in limits what game allows.
08-31-2015, 04:45 PM #1011
Jounijkk
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@ode
I test it, good replica. Interesting car, actually very interesting and very funny.

I wonder why it's so rarely used. There is potential in this car. It's probably faster than Evora in 450 pp ( Big Willow ), if there is no limitations in setup and You dig all the potential out of the car.

Ode, If You have time, could You dig out the speed. Not all, but enough to see the potential - of course all, if You have time. There is interesting curve of power, is there some kind vcam/vtech system in the engine?

It would be nice, if You could test Elise on the "video" track and compare the speed to Evora. Elise might be interesting choice for street car racing at level 450 pp. I just want to have a hint, witch place this car belongs in this category.

At this point, when trying to find max performance out of something, I'm always thinking should I change oil or not. Does anyone know the truth witch way the car is faster?

Jouni
08-31-2015, 05:20 PM #1012
OdeFinn
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Jouni sorry to say, but I'm not touching Elise setup, power add-on yes, but not tuning further, it's most hated low pp car on online, banned on almost all lobbies. Troll car. Enjoying it as is, but not tweaking on troll category. Smile
08-31-2015, 05:51 PM #1013
Jounijkk
Do a barrel roll!
True, the replica is realistic and good enough.

I dig little bit the potential out of the car. I didn't know it's so hated car and banned often. It's fast but it's not that fast it should be banned, the speed might be little bit faster than rx8.
I follow Your advice and leave this car to replica level and enjoy it like it is.

Jouni
08-31-2015, 06:24 PM #1014
OdeFinn
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If lobbies had option to lock weight distribution and few other settings, then Elise would be great car there, people are using it ballasted monster now, it's quick without ballast, but it needs Driver, not ordinary wheel roller.
I really hate ballast, or people who rape every car with it trying to get close as possible to 50:50 (and funniest is that those are so stupid at they doesn't know/understand at that's not best weight balance for racing).
09-01-2015, 01:33 PM #1015
OdeFinn
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Lotus Elise S1 Racecar '96 - "Replica"
544pp



Tuned for version 1.2x
Oil change
Suspension (Full Custom)
Ride Height (mm): 80 / 90
Spring Rate (kgf/mm): 8.04 / 9.39. (8.18 / 9.67= calculation error)
Dampers (Compression): 8 / 7
Dampers (Extension): 6 / 6
Anti-Roll Bars: 5 / 5
Camber Angle (-): 0.3 / 2.0
Toe Angle: -0.01 / +0.11

Brake Balance Controller
Racing Brakes
Brake Balance: 5 / 5


Drivetrain
Initial Torque: 15
Acceleration Sensitivity: 27
Braking Sensitivity: 16
Standard Clutch

Power for 238BHP/285Nm/544pp
Limiter - 100%
Engine Tuning - Stage 3


Gearbox (Full Custom)

Max Speed 300 km/h
__________
#1___2.923
#2___1.787
#3___1.308
#4___1.033
#5___0.848
__________
Final__4.200 (3.938 optional for B6BST, B4BP(Q) 4.200 as default)


Body weight 645kg
Weight Reduction - Stage 0
Ballast weight: 0kg
Ballast position: 0
Downforce
Front/Rear 200/500


Slightly modified S1 series to fit on track, setup is coming from S1, but this car is bit fictional from PD, so can't claim it as a replica.

Settings are using Nitron Track Day series aftermarket spring/damper set F/R 450lb/in - 525lb/in(due limitation on front spring what allows under 490lb/in max),Rover "BRM" 200 - CR PG1/B6BST transmission with Torsen differential. B4BP(Q) transmission changed, 4.200 Final difference.
Engine kicks power as Honda JDM spec conversion was installed, who knows what's under bonnet?

Tune is for Sports Hard (SH) tyres, stock wheels. Other compounds and/or wheels might work fine too. This is not so serious tune, more like just for having fun with maxed out power.

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09-01-2015, 01:43 PM #1016
Jounijkk
Do a barrel roll!
Now I tested Elise also with ballast, early test was just adding more power and gearbox to replica Elise.
It's very true, that using ballast you can dramatically change and kill the original and rel life nature of the car. The car is easier to drive with ballast and it's faster. For personal point of view I respect more of replica type of car, it's also more challenging ato drive and there is left the original type of behaviour - it's more enjoyable. After the test I also understand very well, what are the reasons for someone to use ballast.

Edit: there seems to be a new Elise. Good work. I must visit to dealership. Thank You Ode.

Jouni

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09-01-2015, 02:28 PM #1017
OdeFinn
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@Jouni, check Elise racecar front spring rate, there was leftover from S2 (6.32=425lb/ft), now corrected with 8.18=550lb/ft.
09-02-2015, 09:47 AM #1018
OdeFinn
Bounty hunter


Sorry for darkness and bad audio, enjoy miss shifts

@Jouni can't give better performance videos at this point, disappoint with audio and video darkness.. Next time trying to record better.

Ps. About those Nordschleife shifts, can blame only myself, not game, there was mistakes what would occur on real driving too, concentration errors.

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