sinist3r,you talk only........ made a pratical example of setup
Welcome, sounds like GTP cronies on the way over lol
Can't you read yet? Do I have to repeat what was just posted?
Fine
Originally posted by SiNiST3R
A Balanced car has the perfect balance of front to rear grip for rotation that can be controlled by the driver, and this depends on the driver.
A Balance on the understeer side will be "Tight"
A Balance on the oversteer side will be "Lose"
The driver dictates where that balance is for them.
Some drivers like it tight, some tighter than others, while other drivers will like it loose, some looser than others. That all depends on the drivers style and what they are comfortable driving.
There is no such thing as a perfect tune that works for everybody, that is a Tuning Unicorn.
A set up tuned for me is a set up tuned for me (as if a set up for me could even prove anything either way lol), your attempt to get a set you so you can display some confirmation bias is a lame attempt to talk shit without putting anything forwards like a punk. Entertaining your lack of understanding on the subject as you seem to think a single set up proves anything, If you want me to take your call out serious, then post a set up that proves otherwise, otherwise your just talking shit & a hypocrite.
If you want a set up with camber to show its working it requires a set up that somebody believes shows it doesn't...
I don't have to "prove" what I say is right because what I say is right, its as simple as that, your opinion can go any way your little mind takes it, that wont change anything for me.
I will offer an example, I like this car as I was able to translate some of what was taught at an IRacing seminar for NASCAR into a set up in GT6. Im no NASCAR Tuner or driver so this is coming from a guy who has not raced the NASCAR events since I originally passed them just to get my trophy last January. Every time I try to watch NASCAR I fall asleep and either wake up a few laps till the end well past any accidents or well past the race is over. Makes me a bit dizzy tired watching them go in circles for so damn long, but m interested in all racing, Id watch snails race if it also wouldn't put me to sleep lol
Tuning the NASCAR in GT6 No I couldn't split the 2 sides, but I used the same principles. Get that chin spoiler as low as possible ride the bump stops & control travel to keep the car planted. Yes GT6 has bump stops and they are different from car to car and from front to rear, but GT6 also uses a bump stop on extension, we will call it the droop stop, they are so far all the same car to car & front to rear. I used the same technique that's taught for IRacing, but on the GT6 tuning menu. No Caster slit is a bitch for ease of steering always in one direction but its no big deal.
A Key element is I'm NOT using glitch tuning so I have to out perform the faster chin up down the straight set up or at least try lol without getting that extra nose up speed from a glitch or exploit. I also want to out perform the stock settings by a significant margin, that wasn't all that hard tho.
Watch this video and what can you tell me from watching the car drive. Lets just get first impressions of the car and how it looks going around the track. What can you tell from watching the car, what are your initial impressions of the set up watching the car drive?
The car has only suspension and downforce adjustments, stock differential & gears.
624hp / 553.6ft-lb / 585pp
Oil Change & 70% Power Limited
Tuned Suspension & Downforce
Stock Differential & Gears
G27 Steering Wheel
No Assist No Driving Line
Next while you guys check out the replay & post your thoughts on the set up, I will also need a set up to hold relative to mine. Any NASCAR set ups that are accepted to be "Fast" somebody would like to point out? Preferably one from somebody suggesting camber doesn't work right maybe? Or a set up with very very low Camber would do.
A lot more substance than yours hypocrite. You come in here saying Im all talk with a one line post that's nothing but talk, sounds like YOU'RE all talk, and not much of it at that... What are you fucking stupid? You're not even smart enough to Troll me, just look at your pathetic attempt... You're like a little Pussy Fart, vaginal flatulence everybody laughs at.
Show me your magic set up that wont go faster with any amount of additional Camber. Show me something Mr All Talk.
I invite YOU to post up a NASCAR Daytona Tune with low to no camber if you want to compare it to mine with Camber. Wait, you just want to blah blah blah, thats what I thought, lol what a Joke. Just another moron full of shit.
Your not the sharpest tool in the drawer are you, coming in with one line post talking bout nothing but words, lol moron what other than words have you brought to the table, when I have built tuning tools that aide tuners including gear tuning and damper tuning, Ive built more published custom turbo codes than ANYBODY in GT6, Ive got set ups posted, and all you have is 14 words..... YOU are nothing but empty words Dipshit....
As stated I have posted videos, breakdowns, tunes, tools (First to crack the GT gear chart calculation), custom turbo codes, full hybrids and almost 9k Rep helping NGU members, who the fuck are you?
I even propose a Test for you at Dayton so whats up? Chicken Shit?
All you've done is post some words talking about talk is cheap, how stupid are you?
SEE YAH, wasn't expecting much out of you anyways little Pussy Fart. Buy buy...
This isn't GTP, idiots like you cant hide in the crowd of idiots, those crowds are all at GTP not here.
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And here come the GTP elitist, know-it-all idiots, lol. Seriously dinno, go back and play with the kiddies on GTP, adults are busy here having a mature conversation and doing some real work.
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Ive noticed something interesting. Since like 1.06 or 1.07 Ive come to the conclusion all car in GT6 have approximately 2 deg camber gain in either direction. Every car I tested was the same, but I kept open to the possibility maybe there are some exceptions, but reserved that for when one was found...
Found one, well 2 actually, and that's just so far
I've deciphered the codes that are associated with suspension geometry Camber gain. They are in the chassis code not the suspension code. Looking down my list of data its 2/2 F/R on every car down the list. Until I get to the 97T, it has Zero Camber gain in the geometry front and rear. I thought for a second, yeah the 80's F1 car, that's an ambiguous exception. Then I spotted another, this time a street car albeit a Supercar. The Ferrari F40. Instead of 2/2 F/R it has instead 1.5/1.5 F/R so 0.5 less than every other car on my mixed up list of SpecDB data
This is interesting for a few reasons. Firstly it confirms my theory that most cars in GT6 have the same suspension geometry, and its a cookie cutter 2/2 F/R for most cars in GT6. Secondly It shows there are exceptions.
Anybody can test this by jumping the 97T and seeing absolutely no camber gain or try to notice the 0.5 difference from the F40 and most other cars.