Post: GT6 Game Physics Testing
04-30-2014, 09:03 PM #1
SiNiST3R
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Jounijkk, kazzbakkisback, nextgole, OdeFinn, P$ycho, policedu, q-k, turbo_nova2l, tyronekfc
06-25-2015, 07:45 PM #848
SiNiST3R
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Originally posted by OdeFinn View Post
Nice discussion we have here Smile


Your arguing that:

Simulation mode has an effect on the G27 when it doesn't

Power Assisted Steering On Helps distinguish differences in set up because you say it reduces wheel weight leaving road and tire feedback alone, when Power Assisted Steering On does the opposite hurting the drivers ability to distinguish differences in set up because in my opinion all feedback is dulled by the effect road and tire effects included, I think you are completely wrong.

All of this because you say you feel differences in different Rims when after testing I find none, I look in the code and In My Opinion the code suggest there is nothing different from Rim to Rim......

What do you expect? I trust my own testing more than anybodies and Ive gone and tested your theories and to be straight to the point, none of them hold any weight and I dont think you will find much support on this, I think everybody even the folks at GTP will tell you that you are wrong...


Originally posted by OdeFinn View Post
I'm pretty sure at I can do test what shows simulation difference, test what can be recorded on data logger and see difference there.
Will get back on this when on ps3.


Im sure you will see it all, making connections that do not exist to facts that do exist... You are trapped in the web of Confirmation Bias..

Simulation setting doesn't do anything on a G27, nothing at all. The G27 is a 900 degree wheel not a 200 degree wheel, that setting is exclusive to 200 degree wheels. Just like the wheels that the Simulation Setting is active with (200 degree wheels) the Power Assisted Steering option is disabled, the Power Assisted Steering option is exclusive to 900 degree wheels..

What is scary is how detailed you go into the differences from Simulation to Amateur settings, its great creative writing but a killer to the credibility.

You can't tell that Simulation mode does nothing to your G27 and expect people to think you can feel differences in various rims that nobody else can feel??? Must be everybody has the Image Quality Setting on "Sharpen"... I mean come on man...
06-25-2015, 09:12 PM #849
OdeFinn
Bounty hunter
Accuracy of PD explanations on settings is not good, steering sensitivity on driving settings is good example, it states at it's working only controllers (like DS3), but it works on wheels too.
But I have good reasons to argue this, and will continue Smile

But if this ends on my loss, I will admit that, but now this is live situation.
06-25-2015, 09:14 PM #850
SiNiST3R
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Originally posted by OdeFinn View Post
Accuracy of PD explanations on settings is not good, steering sensitivity on driving settings is good example, it states at it's working only controllers (like DS3), but it works on wheels too.
But I have good reasons to argue this, and will continue Smile


I again agree with PoDi, and The "Controller Steering Sensitivity" is Specifically for the DS3 and has nothing to do with any wheel.

I tried to open a 2 way street. I entertained the possibility there was some truth to your theories, even took time to look into PAS (Power Assisted Steering) closer to get a full understanding of the Post 1.12 effect..

I saw clearly this was not going to be a 2 way street and you wont entertain the possibility you are wrong so I offered an olive branch saying we should agree to disagree, but your so confident in your Bullshit you smacked that shit aside because you can feel things out better than everybody else but it appears you cant feel out a damn thing....

The Steering Sensitivity is related to the steering delay of the joystick playing on the built in Steering Assist of the DS3/Controllers.. Reducing the setting makes the game less sensitive to left stick inputs and smooths out the inputs.... Doesn't do a damn thing to Steering Wheels... Again you see things that are not there...

Your building an odd list of "Things you got backwards" I would keep that to yourself, turn off Power Assisted Steering & test a whole lot more... Im currently not too confident you can feel out any difference especially if you think all kinds of things that have no difference to G27's are making differences nobody feels but you...

Simulation Mode

Controller Steering Sensitivity

Image Quality


All these things don't make one bit of a difference to how the cars feel going around the track but you think all these irrelevant details are making a difference to G27 Drivers, its crazy, absurd, ludicrous.. Just as crazy, absurd, ludicrous as it is to suggest its better to test with Power Assisted Steering turned on, must be crazy...

So why would we believe you when you say "Aftermarket Rims" make a difference... Yeah they make as much of a difference to a G27 user as:

Simulation Mode

Controller Steering Sensitivity

Image Quality

Not one bit, not even a little bit, not even slightly, no way, if you think they do you are Nuts..
06-25-2015, 10:36 PM #851
SiNiST3R
Samurai Poster
MOVING ON as it is about time to move onto something else..

ITS TOMAHAWK TIME BOOYAH!

The car is sure to be interesting to say the least, oh and Mazda LM55 gets a lil refresh to the look to match the Goodwood Statue update and newer version of the car.. Oh and the Nissan LMP2 and GT-R LM NISMO cars are Dealership Availible.

Got my 3 already Happy
06-25-2015, 11:00 PM #852
Jounijkk
Do a barrel roll!
Is it possible to get rules for 86 setup exercise?

I'm interested about this exercise, because it is increasing knowledge and helps to improves lap times. I'm also little bit missing the feeling of good teamwork ( Sinist3r, Ode and Bread ) and good setup work, witch helps readers to go faster and understand more about setup and physics.

Jouni

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06-25-2015, 11:04 PM #853
SiNiST3R
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Originally posted by Jounijkk View Post
Is it possible to get rules for 86 setup exercise?

I'm interested about this exercise, because it is increasing knowledge and helps to improves lap times. I'm also little bit missing the feeling of good teamwork ( Sinist3r, Ode and Bread ) and good setup work, witch helps readers to go faster and understand more about setup and physics.

Jouni


Im only on the fence about lil details. Should we use Rigidity and make wing mandatory.. Im open to letting wing be tuners choise but rigidity will either be mandatory on or mandatory off..


The Tomahawk X is an absolute ballistic missile, a Hyper car Wet Dream, such a bummer we cant use the G-Suits in other cars..

Heard it here first. The Tomahawk X has ERS Boost button that will also retract the wing and flaps to streamline the car for insane top speeds...

All Stock 413mph unbelievable...
06-25-2015, 11:26 PM #854
OdeFinn
Bounty hunter
Just try to keep up, I'm not trying to confuse you or anyone else.
Sensitivity is easiest of all to prove, just go on cockpit mode and wave wheel with setting 0, then change it to 6 or 7 and voila delay is gone, this is not just visual delay, it's real delay of your driving inputs.
06-25-2015, 11:51 PM #855
SiNiST3R
Samurai Poster
Originally posted by OdeFinn View Post
Just try to keep up


Learn to let go.....

I packed my wheel yesterday, I might pull it out over the weekend for some Tomahawk driving, not sure I even want to bother testing your theories until a second person confirms them... Find a person to agree with you and maybe Ill look at any animation delays, until then its just not gonna happen at least until I unpack the wheel at my new place next week........



Tomahawk X

ERS Boost the car goes up to 413mph (no oil default settings) it takes 2.5 laps of SSRX to kill the battery and laps go by in 2:45 WOWSERS
06-26-2015, 12:08 AM #856
OdeFinn
Bounty hunter
Okey, let it be then, I'm just exploring these things, I should be lottery winner. Don't take this so personally, I'm not against any opposite claims, until I have prove on way or another I'm investigating this more. As you have your opinion I have mine on these things, and I'm trying to give opportunity others to test same things, giving all my settings here to setup identical environment where I could feel those things.

But I'll let this be here, one post will come about this later, but that will be last for this subject.
Anyone who is interested to test these or is already testing are welcome to send PM about it.

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