Post: [CAUTION:]►PS3 OFW 3.56 New Feature: ➟Rootkit
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01-31-2011, 04:29 AM
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NextGenTactics
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Originally posted by another user
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Apparently, examination of the OFW has found a new feature that will allow Sony to download and run code when you login to PSN.
The code they can run is obviously to check for CFW or whatever, but the code could change to check for anything really.
And with the current state of PS3 security there is the possibility that others might be able to run their code on your PS3 without your knowledge.
I don't run CFW and I'm pretty pissed about this. What they are doing might be illegal in the EU.
Apparently, examination of the OFW has found a new feature that will allow Sony to download and run code when you login to PSN.
The code they can run is obviously to check for CFW or whatever, but the code could change to check for anything really.
And with the current state of PS3 security there is the possibility that others might be able to run their code on your PS3 without your knowledge.
I don't run CFW and I'm pretty pissed about this. What they are doing might be illegal in the EU.
Originally posted by another user
Originally Posted by N.A
For those who are curious about the new PS3 security, it seems Sony has implemented something in 3.56 I mentioned here a few weeks ago that is the same as Microsoft uses to detect and ban 360's.
Mathieulh just posted about it on IRC.
Essentially Sony can now remotely execute code on the PS3 as soon as you connect.
This can do whatever Sony wants it to do such as verifying system files or searching for homebrew. Sony can change the code and add new detection methods without any firmware updates and as the code executes remotely there is no reliable way to forge the replies.
Whilst it is possible to patch or remove this code from the firmware this will likely mean the end of playing CFW online (as PSN can just check before login that this is active) or at the very least mean it will be even easier for Sony to detect and ban users.
Judging from the fact that people can still connect using the proxy method it seems Sony hasn't activated any of this yet but the functions are there in the new firmware.
For those who are curious about the new PS3 security, it seems Sony has implemented something in 3.56 I mentioned here a few weeks ago that is the same as Microsoft uses to detect and ban 360's.
Mathieulh just posted about it on IRC.
Essentially Sony can now remotely execute code on the PS3 as soon as you connect.
This can do whatever Sony wants it to do such as verifying system files or searching for homebrew. Sony can change the code and add new detection methods without any firmware updates and as the code executes remotely there is no reliable way to forge the replies.
Whilst it is possible to patch or remove this code from the firmware this will likely mean the end of playing CFW online (as PSN can just check before login that this is active) or at the very least mean it will be even easier for Sony to detect and ban users.
Judging from the fact that people can still connect using the proxy method it seems Sony hasn't activated any of this yet but the functions are there in the new firmware.
Originally posted by another user
Originally Posted by IRC
Jan 27 14:44:32 <Mathieulh> 3.56 has nice new stuffs in there
Jan 27 14:44:43 <Mathieulh> like remote code execution upon login
Jan 27 14:44:45 <Sorrowuk> They will just release patches so people who have hacked cant go online
Jan 27 14:44:46 <Mathieulh> yummy
Jan 27 14:44:50 <noone> WAT
Jan 27 14:45:00 <noone> RFE built-in the fw!?
Jan 27 14:45:25 <Mathieulh> 3.56 pretty much has a built in psn rootkit
Jan 27 14:45:30 <noone> dude, that's the only stuff i'd be afraid of
Jan 27 14:45:31 <Mathieulh> don't tell me I haven't warned you
Jan 27 14:45:43 <Sorrowuk> psn rootkit ?
Jan 27 14:46:05 <noone> but if we could rip-off the fw that shit would be erased
Jan 27 14:46:20 <noone> that was the only thing stopped sony to _auto_ update your fw
Jan 27 14:46:22 <Mathieulh> noone it's not that simple
Jan 27 14:46:29 <Mathieulh> the server awaits a proper reply
Jan 27 14:46:34 <Mathieulh> and that reply isn't in the firmware
Jan 27 14:44:32 <Mathieulh> 3.56 has nice new stuffs in there
Jan 27 14:44:43 <Mathieulh> like remote code execution upon login
Jan 27 14:44:45 <Sorrowuk> They will just release patches so people who have hacked cant go online
Jan 27 14:44:46 <Mathieulh> yummy
Jan 27 14:44:50 <noone> WAT
Jan 27 14:45:00 <noone> RFE built-in the fw!?
Jan 27 14:45:25 <Mathieulh> 3.56 pretty much has a built in psn rootkit
Jan 27 14:45:30 <noone> dude, that's the only stuff i'd be afraid of
Jan 27 14:45:31 <Mathieulh> don't tell me I haven't warned you
Jan 27 14:45:43 <Sorrowuk> psn rootkit ?
Jan 27 14:46:05 <noone> but if we could rip-off the fw that shit would be erased
Jan 27 14:46:20 <noone> that was the only thing stopped sony to _auto_ update your fw
Jan 27 14:46:22 <Mathieulh> noone it's not that simple
Jan 27 14:46:29 <Mathieulh> the server awaits a proper reply
Jan 27 14:46:34 <Mathieulh> and that reply isn't in the firmware
Sony's not even trying to hide it either...
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01-31-2011, 04:33 AM
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Sk8erFerSur
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Are they allowed to "destroy" or brick your Ps3 if they find illegal software? They really don't have the right to look through everything without your consent, and they REALLY don't have the right to brick your PS3 (All we did by hacking was break the warranty, it's not like what we did is killing their company (it's killing Ps3's Gamesales though because of pirated games).
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01-31-2011, 04:50 AM
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skatin707
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Originally posted by Eh
Lol. I wish Geohot had a better lawyer that could find laws and legal terms that states Sony basically can't **** up or PS3's. Honestly, it's like we paid $300 just to play games on this thing. Not even own it, it's like renting the console for a lifetime, but never fully owning it.
That's a great way to put it!
Save that idea, it may be useful in a court case.
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01-31-2011, 04:57 AM
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angel_of_deth
Climbing up the ladder
Originally posted by NextGenTactics
my friend told me about them wanting to do this months ago but werent able to now they can their plan was to brick repeated offenders of the terms of agreement as examples in hopes to kill all jb hacking talk here and now but yea he just got fired for being a dumbass and leaking info about future releases so im back to what you guys know :wtf:
---------- Post added at 08:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:56 PM ----------
Originally posted by Sk8erFerSur
Are they allowed to "destroy" or brick your Ps3 if they find illegal software? They really don't have the right to look through everything without your consent, and they REALLY don't have the right to brick your PS3 (All we did by hacking was break the warranty, it's not like what we did is killing their company (it's killing Ps3's Gamesales though because of pirated games).
they have legal right to do so now so yea were kinda screwed if anyone continues down this route
01-31-2011, 04:59 AM
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MuTeD-_-
Pokemon Trainer
i wrote sony ... i think everyone should:
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If I buy a car (lets say a Honda) and I pay cash for it (lets say $300) and I don't like the way it runs ... if I put a new transmision in it does Honda have the right to sue me? Just wondering b/c my car runs like shit but i dont want to get sued or have my tools impounded. Please hit me back and let me know something.
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Customer By Web Form - 01/30/2011 02:35 AM
If I buy a car (lets say a Honda) and I pay cash for it (lets say $300) and I don't like the way it runs ... if I put a new transmision in it does Honda have the right to sue me? Just wondering b/c my car runs like shit but i dont want to get sued or have my tools impounded. Please hit me back and let me know something.
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01-31-2011, 04:59 AM
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01-31-2011, 05:00 AM
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01-31-2011, 05:02 AM
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