Post: [CAUTION:]►PS3 OFW 3.56 New Feature: ➟Rootkit
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01-31-2011, 04:29 AM
#1
NextGenTactics
Banned
Originally posted by another user
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Apparently, examination of the OFW has found a new feature that will allow Sony to download and run code when you login to PSN.
The code they can run is obviously to check for CFW or whatever, but the code could change to check for anything really.
And with the current state of PS3 security there is the possibility that others might be able to run their code on your PS3 without your knowledge.
I don't run CFW and I'm pretty pissed about this. What they are doing might be illegal in the EU.
Apparently, examination of the OFW has found a new feature that will allow Sony to download and run code when you login to PSN.
The code they can run is obviously to check for CFW or whatever, but the code could change to check for anything really.
And with the current state of PS3 security there is the possibility that others might be able to run their code on your PS3 without your knowledge.
I don't run CFW and I'm pretty pissed about this. What they are doing might be illegal in the EU.
Originally posted by another user
Originally Posted by N.A
For those who are curious about the new PS3 security, it seems Sony has implemented something in 3.56 I mentioned here a few weeks ago that is the same as Microsoft uses to detect and ban 360's.
Mathieulh just posted about it on IRC.
Essentially Sony can now remotely execute code on the PS3 as soon as you connect.
This can do whatever Sony wants it to do such as verifying system files or searching for homebrew. Sony can change the code and add new detection methods without any firmware updates and as the code executes remotely there is no reliable way to forge the replies.
Whilst it is possible to patch or remove this code from the firmware this will likely mean the end of playing CFW online (as PSN can just check before login that this is active) or at the very least mean it will be even easier for Sony to detect and ban users.
Judging from the fact that people can still connect using the proxy method it seems Sony hasn't activated any of this yet but the functions are there in the new firmware.
For those who are curious about the new PS3 security, it seems Sony has implemented something in 3.56 I mentioned here a few weeks ago that is the same as Microsoft uses to detect and ban 360's.
Mathieulh just posted about it on IRC.
Essentially Sony can now remotely execute code on the PS3 as soon as you connect.
This can do whatever Sony wants it to do such as verifying system files or searching for homebrew. Sony can change the code and add new detection methods without any firmware updates and as the code executes remotely there is no reliable way to forge the replies.
Whilst it is possible to patch or remove this code from the firmware this will likely mean the end of playing CFW online (as PSN can just check before login that this is active) or at the very least mean it will be even easier for Sony to detect and ban users.
Judging from the fact that people can still connect using the proxy method it seems Sony hasn't activated any of this yet but the functions are there in the new firmware.
Originally posted by another user
Originally Posted by IRC
Jan 27 14:44:32 <Mathieulh> 3.56 has nice new stuffs in there
Jan 27 14:44:43 <Mathieulh> like remote code execution upon login
Jan 27 14:44:45 <Sorrowuk> They will just release patches so people who have hacked cant go online
Jan 27 14:44:46 <Mathieulh> yummy
Jan 27 14:44:50 <noone> WAT
Jan 27 14:45:00 <noone> RFE built-in the fw!?
Jan 27 14:45:25 <Mathieulh> 3.56 pretty much has a built in psn rootkit
Jan 27 14:45:30 <noone> dude, that's the only stuff i'd be afraid of
Jan 27 14:45:31 <Mathieulh> don't tell me I haven't warned you
Jan 27 14:45:43 <Sorrowuk> psn rootkit ?
Jan 27 14:46:05 <noone> but if we could rip-off the fw that shit would be erased
Jan 27 14:46:20 <noone> that was the only thing stopped sony to _auto_ update your fw
Jan 27 14:46:22 <Mathieulh> noone it's not that simple
Jan 27 14:46:29 <Mathieulh> the server awaits a proper reply
Jan 27 14:46:34 <Mathieulh> and that reply isn't in the firmware
Jan 27 14:44:32 <Mathieulh> 3.56 has nice new stuffs in there
Jan 27 14:44:43 <Mathieulh> like remote code execution upon login
Jan 27 14:44:45 <Sorrowuk> They will just release patches so people who have hacked cant go online
Jan 27 14:44:46 <Mathieulh> yummy
Jan 27 14:44:50 <noone> WAT
Jan 27 14:45:00 <noone> RFE built-in the fw!?
Jan 27 14:45:25 <Mathieulh> 3.56 pretty much has a built in psn rootkit
Jan 27 14:45:30 <noone> dude, that's the only stuff i'd be afraid of
Jan 27 14:45:31 <Mathieulh> don't tell me I haven't warned you
Jan 27 14:45:43 <Sorrowuk> psn rootkit ?
Jan 27 14:46:05 <noone> but if we could rip-off the fw that shit would be erased
Jan 27 14:46:20 <noone> that was the only thing stopped sony to _auto_ update your fw
Jan 27 14:46:22 <Mathieulh> noone it's not that simple
Jan 27 14:46:29 <Mathieulh> the server awaits a proper reply
Jan 27 14:46:34 <Mathieulh> and that reply isn't in the firmware
Sony's not even trying to hide it either...
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02-01-2011, 02:27 AM
#92
IX_BloodBath_XI
Keeper
ok.... 1) srry but does this mean that sony can tell wen im doin mw2 cl?
2) **** SONY!! U CAN KISS MY ***** **** YOU STUPID MOTHER ******S! ALWAYS TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE STICK TO THE BORING ****! MAYBE WE DONT WANA SPEND ALL OF OUR HARD EARNED $$ BUYING NEW GAMES AND CRAP EVERYTIME WE BEAT ONE, OR WEN WE UNLOCKED EVERYTHING ON MULTIPLAYER /facepalm! MODDING GIVES US MORE **** TO DO! WHY DONT YOU JUST BAN THE FREAKN PIRATING! CFW ISNT EVEN A BIG DEAL!
2) **** SONY!! U CAN KISS MY ***** **** YOU STUPID MOTHER ******S! ALWAYS TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE STICK TO THE BORING ****! MAYBE WE DONT WANA SPEND ALL OF OUR HARD EARNED $$ BUYING NEW GAMES AND CRAP EVERYTIME WE BEAT ONE, OR WEN WE UNLOCKED EVERYTHING ON MULTIPLAYER /facepalm! MODDING GIVES US MORE **** TO DO! WHY DONT YOU JUST BAN THE FREAKN PIRATING! CFW ISNT EVEN A BIG DEAL!
02-01-2011, 02:47 AM
#93
MEGANOOBTOOBER
Banned
I hope people start a protest against sony. im dissapointed that geohot didnt win. They passed a law that allows phones to be hacked and that was passed when george unlocked the iphone. don't you think that the iphone is capable of playing games and is basicly also considered a portable gaming console. now why is this allowed, but not a ps3. the court really needs to rethink all this cause they just made a big mistake of not looking up the definition to a game console. i understand that they're losing money through ps3 games because of pirating but they could have just added some security to the console that would only stop pirating.
02-01-2011, 02:49 AM
#94
BoiKing
Bounty hunter
Originally posted by Sk8erFerSur
Are they allowed to "destroy" or brick your Ps3 if they find illegal software? They really don't have the right to look through everything without your consent, and they REALLY don't have the right to brick your PS3 (All we did by hacking was break the warranty, it's not like what we did is killing their company (it's killing Ps3's Gamesales though because of pirated games).
u basically gave them consent when u accepted the terms
02-01-2011, 05:05 AM
#95
CandyScream
Haxor!
02-01-2011, 05:16 AM
#96
ImmortalMods
Banned
Originally posted by NextGenTactics
Wow with all the news about no 3.56 cfw (thank god):carling:
3.41FTW
and all man things are looking bad for homebrew scene
Looks like sony is winning and is gonna be winning if not won already :420:
02-03-2011, 05:42 PM
#97
phantom12be
UnsignedCode$
02-06-2011, 05:48 PM
#98
anddrew
League Champion
It is illigal, certainly in the uk
Originally posted by another user
The Computer Misuse Act is split into three sections and makes the following acts illegal:
Unauthorized Access to Computer Material
Unauthorized Access to Computer systems with intent to commit another offense
Unauthorized Modification of Computer Material
The first section in the Computer Misuse Act forbids a person to use someone else’s identification to access a computer, run a program or obtain any data, even if no personal gain is involved in such access. You also cannot change, copy, delete or move a program. The Computer Misuse Act also outlaws any attempts to obtain someone else’s password. Obviously, if someone gives you their identification and you may legally use the computer, these laws under Unauthorized Access do not apply.
Unauthorized Access to Computer Material
Unauthorized Access to Computer systems with intent to commit another offense
Unauthorized Modification of Computer Material
The first section in the Computer Misuse Act forbids a person to use someone else’s identification to access a computer, run a program or obtain any data, even if no personal gain is involved in such access. You also cannot change, copy, delete or move a program. The Computer Misuse Act also outlaws any attempts to obtain someone else’s password. Obviously, if someone gives you their identification and you may legally use the computer, these laws under Unauthorized Access do not apply.
02-08-2011, 10:51 PM
#99
Mr Grumpy
< ^ > < ^ >
Originally posted by demize
Then why dont we give it a shot? What do we have to lose? It's a win-win solution. I am pretty good at the networking side of things and got some buddies who would love to take a crack at it as well on the infrastructure side of thing's. What do you say? I don't have the fund's for one but can help a shitload when it comes to doing the software side's of it. 
I'm down with this dude, I will fund some of it once i get my paypal sorted and donate here
hopefully we can **** sony so hard they will have periods for the rest of their lives, VIVA LA REVOLUCION !!
02-08-2011, 11:04 PM
#100
demize
Maggbot timeout!
Originally posted by milez9999
I'm down with this dude, I will fund some of it once i get my paypal sorted and donate here hopefully we can **** sony so hard they will have periods for the rest of their lives, VIVA LA REVOLUCION !!
hopefully we can **** sony so hard they will have periods for the rest of their lives, VIVA LA REVOLUCION !!
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