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Originally posted by another user

Vagabundo posts:
Apparently, examination of the OFW has found a new feature that will allow Sony to download and run code when you login to PSN.

The code they can run is obviously to check for CFW or whatever, but the code could change to check for anything really.

And with the current state of PS3 security there is the possibility that others might be able to run their code on your PS3 without your knowledge.

I don't run CFW and I'm pretty pissed about this. What they are doing might be illegal in the EU.

Originally posted by another user

Originally Posted by N.A
For those who are curious about the new PS3 security, it seems Sony has implemented something in 3.56 I mentioned here a few weeks ago that is the same as Microsoft uses to detect and ban 360's.

Mathieulh just posted about it on IRC.

Essentially Sony can now remotely execute code on the PS3 as soon as you connect.

This can do whatever Sony wants it to do such as verifying system files or searching for homebrew. Sony can change the code and add new detection methods without any firmware updates and as the code executes remotely there is no reliable way to forge the replies.

Whilst it is possible to patch or remove this code from the firmware this will likely mean the end of playing CFW online (as PSN can just check before login that this is active) or at the very least mean it will be even easier for Sony to detect and ban users.

Judging from the fact that people can still connect using the proxy method it seems Sony hasn't activated any of this yet but the functions are there in the new firmware.

Originally posted by another user

Originally Posted by IRC
Jan 27 14:44:32 <Mathieulh> 3.56 has nice new stuffs in there

Jan 27 14:44:43 <Mathieulh> like remote code execution upon login

Jan 27 14:44:45 <Sorrowuk> They will just release patches so people who have hacked cant go online

Jan 27 14:44:46 <Mathieulh> yummy

Jan 27 14:44:50 <noone> WAT

Jan 27 14:45:00 <noone> RFE built-in the fw!?

Jan 27 14:45:25 <Mathieulh> 3.56 pretty much has a built in psn rootkit

Jan 27 14:45:30 <noone> dude, that's the only stuff i'd be afraid of

Jan 27 14:45:31 <Mathieulh> don't tell me I haven't warned you

Jan 27 14:45:43 <Sorrowuk> psn rootkit ?

Jan 27 14:46:05 <noone> but if we could rip-off the fw that shit would be erased

Jan 27 14:46:20 <noone> that was the only thing stopped sony to _auto_ update your fw

Jan 27 14:46:22 <Mathieulh> noone it's not that simple

Jan 27 14:46:29 <Mathieulh> the server awaits a proper reply

Jan 27 14:46:34 <Mathieulh> and that reply isn't in the firmware

Sony's not even trying to hide it either...

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True.

Once we get it running, then we can estimate.

the way i look at if sony wants to **** us PS3 owner over then I suggest we all go buy a xbox360 and then write sony and tell them how better xbox is...just to piss them off...I'M JUST SAY'N!!!!

exactly, that is what we need so we no longer have to rely on sony anymore and won't have to keep going offline because of sony shitty updates.

Yup.

Demize and I are going to start working on it.

You do give consent by accepting the TOS

now we dont have privacy.. pfft..

PC + Play Online in Private Server = Epic Win
Ps3 or 360 + Play Online = Epic Ban

:mad:

haha i own my ****ing ps3 and sony cant do nothing about it lmao
(**** sony and there banning i bought my ps3 and its mine)

thas gonna be bull crap if sony wins this geohot mess
i mean come on jailbreaking apple went from illegal to down right
its your device do what the **** you want to it
and thats software to
seems like ps3 software should be the same

the only thing sony will ever be able to do to our ps3
is they can only bann us from psn and that is because that is sonys network they pay a fee to run it we dont
but other then that you will always have a working ps3 sony cant brock nothing
only there security can brick it if you **** up on hacking or modifying it but thats you fault
and yes sony will ban why wouldnt they are they gonna let ever one get free games for life??? i dont think so
i think there will always be away around the psn bann just bc the great cumminity of video game hackers there is and there will always be
no matter what all game systems will be hacked one day the ps3 took 3 years and who knows the ps4 could take 75 million years or 5 mins but it will get done thats just something sony micro soft and all other video game makers have to live with
just look at microsoft 360 are they getting in trouble for banning people from live no its there network they cant now maybe if they just made your 360 unsable then they would
(geohot is one of the smartest hackers ever he will find away around his court issues

First of all lets get one thing straight, the HARDWARE is yours not the software, that belongs to sony and always will therefore if the decide you broke their terms of service they can disable said software. How useful will your ps3 be with no software, such as firmware, none at all. Now on topic, if we did not update to 3.56, the root kit does not exist, right? I did not accept the newest ToS so this means part of this does not apply to me (as far as the root kit) right?