Post: The evolution of Call of Duty gamers
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02-27-2012, 07:23 AM
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+tA. Rick
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Yes, I loved the days of call of duty 4. It's not the game but the people that made it such a fun game. Why? Because there was no care. People didn't fuss over their KDR or winning. Boosting was kept at a minimum state and didn't have much of a negative impact towards the community. So what happened? Well you guys can explain that. I'm pretty sure most of you know by now.
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02-27-2012, 07:01 PM
#29
Wondoh
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Originally posted by joelbluhme
What I am referring to is the fact that CoD (especially the IW games) are considered to be casual games, they attract the inexperienced and soft core gamer and i totally get why; It is fast pace and intense, easy to learn, and there is a huge community. The problem with the series is that it is so enormously big so it kind off puts the rest of the games in the shadows. Many people stick with CoD when there is sooo many better and well produced games out there (Uncharted, Gears of War, Crysis etc.).
I love CoD but hate the fact that it is so dominating in the community. Activision makes sooo much money, they release their games every year and sells millions of copies and they sell a lot of DLC and it annoys me as crazy that they don't more effort into their games. There are so many things in MW3 that is really poor (connection, map design, lack of dedicated servers, death streaks etc.) but still the game sells crazy amounts which confuses me a little, don't we have higher expectations, especially on a game that is produced by one of the wealthiest in the industry?
I often meet people who says that their biggest hobby is gaming, so I ask them what they play and 80 % they answer something like "Mostly CoD, well almost exclusively CoD" The problem here is that I don't think that you can call yourself a gamer (and especially not a hardcore gamer) if you only play one game that well the majority of the males in the US and Europe in the ages of 10- 21(?) play.
I love CoD but hate the fact that it is so dominating in the community. Activision makes sooo much money, they release their games every year and sells millions of copies and they sell a lot of DLC and it annoys me as crazy that they don't more effort into their games. There are so many things in MW3 that is really poor (connection, map design, lack of dedicated servers, death streaks etc.) but still the game sells crazy amounts which confuses me a little, don't we have higher expectations, especially on a game that is produced by one of the wealthiest in the industry?
I often meet people who says that their biggest hobby is gaming, so I ask them what they play and 80 % they answer something like "Mostly CoD, well almost exclusively CoD" The problem here is that I don't think that you can call yourself a gamer (and especially not a hardcore gamer) if you only play one game that well the majority of the males in the US and Europe in the ages of 10- 21(?) play.
they attract new inexperienced gamers as they are fun to play and are one of the best FPS games available. everyone starts somewhere, and for me it was COD4, but for someone else it may be mw3 or BO.
Its mainly all down to personal opinion, yes the COD series is huge, and yes it does keep a lot of people away from other gaes, but there must be a reason for it, because people find it funner to play. inexperienced or experienced gamers will decide themselves if they like it or not. Im not inexperienced, i have been playing games for a long time, and i have tried a whole variety.
Personally i loved the 2nd uncharted game, the online was soo fun and different to play, and i was addicted to it fr a while, but then the novilty wore off and i went back to COD. I tried playing uncharted 3 online and i just didnt bond with it as well as i had the 2nd one, and it didnt appeal to me, so i went back to COD. I have done this with several shooter games, kane and lynch and assassins creed are other examples, but none could replace my favorite, COD.
Yeah the game has had, and still has some bad features, but it still playable, and fun to do so. they are a business after all, and they are out to make a profit, and boosting their profit is what they need to do to survive as a business. It sells well for a reason, because millions of people are still hyped year after year, some are disappointed, some are amazed.
Like i said, i have tried other games, in periods when i have got bored of COD, but they never keep me entertained for longer than COD does. Im sure other COD players have tried other games here and there, which does make them gamers, and they have found their game they would say they are hardcore at. You could be a hardcore COD player, or a hardcore fifa player etc
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02-27-2012, 07:42 PM
#30
hitman2120
Do a barrel roll!
Originally posted by Wondoh
you said....people prefer the MW series of treyarchs CODs?? what was that ment to say?? 
well in mw3 you can't earn killstreaks through deathstreaks, you cant in any IW COD game, all you can do is keep your killstreak going till after you die using support streaks. Just because they balance it out, to help those who may not be as good as other players, doesn't make it less hardcore.
And in BO you may not see noobs getting killstreaks, but you also don't see noobs getting the best killstreaks assault kill streaks and specialist in mw3. Both games have different levels of players, but one game, someone might find easier to play, maybe its by treyarch, maybe its by IW, doest make anyone more hardcore than the other.
well in mw3 you can't earn killstreaks through deathstreaks, you cant in any IW COD game, all you can do is keep your killstreak going till after you die using support streaks. Just because they balance it out, to help those who may not be as good as other players, doesn't make it less hardcore.
And in BO you may not see noobs getting killstreaks, but you also don't see noobs getting the best killstreaks assault kill streaks and specialist in mw3. Both games have different levels of players, but one game, someone might find easier to play, maybe its by treyarch, maybe its by IW, doest make anyone more hardcore than the other.
I already went over it, they prefer it because it's easier. Who exactly are they balancing the game out for? For the people who jumped on the CoD bandwagon last year and expect to dominate the veterans who have been playing for 5-6 years? These noobs are literally destroying the game with their sense of entitlement. The only thing they are entitled to a straight beatdowns in every lobby for years straight till they can learn to earn streaks with their own skill. Only in MW2 and MW3 can you die and still have an advantage of your opponent. This is literally the most backwards thinking I have ever encountered and there is literally no reasoning behind it.
I cannot tell you how many people I have met where they brag about how amazing they are only to get butthurt after they get analed. They actually think they are good because they have been rewarded for being bad. Somehow they are fooled into thinking they are good but they are complete and utter shit. I don't even understand how you can argue IW is more hardcore; there is no argument to be had.
02-27-2012, 08:25 PM
#32
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by hitman2120
I already went over it, they prefer it because it's easier. Who exactly are they balancing the game out for? For the people who jumped on the CoD bandwagon last year and expect to dominate the veterans who have been playing for 5-6 years? These noobs are literally destroying the game with their sense of entitlement. The only thing they are entitled to a straight beatdowns in every lobby for years straight till they can learn to earn streaks with their own skill. Only in MW2 and MW3 can you die and still have an advantage of your opponent. This is literally the most backwards thinking I have ever encountered and there is literally no reasoning behind it.
I cannot tell you how many people I have met where they brag about how amazing they are only to get butthurt after they get analed. They actually think they are good because they have been rewarded for being bad. Somehow they are fooled into thinking they are good but they are complete and utter shit. I don't even understand how you can argue IW is more hardcore; there is no argument to be had.
I cannot tell you how many people I have met where they brag about how amazing they are only to get butthurt after they get analed. They actually think they are good because they have been rewarded for being bad. Somehow they are fooled into thinking they are good but they are complete and utter shit. I don't even understand how you can argue IW is more hardcore; there is no argument to be had.
My point was good players aka vets or whoever deal with lag,deathstreaks, lame ass support, etc BUT THEU STILL FIND A WAY TO OWN NOOBS.
It's not like the game only lags for good players that is what I mean by overcome. Either deal with it or move on. The good ol days of COD are gone. I enjoy MW3 more but I loved killstreak setup in bo. No noob killstreaks but RC Car.
My issue is with the people that are in denial. Hardcore player ha become subjective. Too many people let these noobs kill them so instead of adjusting and playing with other vets to rape these noobs like good players do they would rather talk about how great old COD games were.
I play on parties. We know how noob friendly COD games are but a group of vets own these bums... If Support was gone noobs wpuld have zero chance.
If you're saying COD caters to noobs I am here for you. If you're sayong hardcore plauers cant still dominate Despite these issues then speak for yourself
Lag is a huge problem but it wasnt implemented for noobs rather for cheap internet connection lol.
---------- Post added at 02:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:09 PM ----------
Originally posted by psameht
What "Noob friendly" things did they add to BF3 ?
Do you even own both games? or do you only defend Mw2.5 instead of playing Bf3 and seeing what everyone is talking about.
Porter you write great post but it seems like you got your head in the sand my friend. you really defend the shit out of MW2.5 when everyone can clearly see what a crap game it is. Just because you can have fun with a turd doesn't mean were all pretentious kunts because we don't like playing with feces.
Do you even own both games? or do you only defend Mw2.5 instead of playing Bf3 and seeing what everyone is talking about.
Porter you write great post but it seems like you got your head in the sand my friend. you really defend the shit out of MW2.5 when everyone can clearly see what a crap game it is. Just because you can have fun with a turd doesn't mean were all pretentious kunts because we don't like playing with feces.
What the hell are you talking about? I said COD games have noob friendly things. I never said shit about BF3 having anything nooby as I don't even have that game.
You have become way too bittter my dude. I enjoy COD despite the issues and I play in partieson ground war to minimize lots of issues.
The minite COD pisses me off especially if I get as bitter as you, I will not hesitate to move on. I used to be a huge nba 2k guy. When that series got annoying I moved on instead talking about the good ol days and bashing the game.
The FPS snobs are the players who play COD games day and night yey bitch and moan all day here. Every negative thread they are ready to bash the game. It's a videogame not some wife we are stuck with. We are going to talk a little trash and play it's not that serious. I hope you dedicate equal time praising BF3 forums as you do bashing COD. It's noob friendly because online gaming ay large continues to grow. The days of mature vets playing online without annoying little kids are over. Now its juat us bitter ass grandpas saying zCOD sucks until wr are at the next yearly release...
02-27-2012, 08:29 PM
#33
hitman2120
Do a barrel roll!
Originally posted by Justice
My point was good players aka vets or whoever deal with lag,deathstreaks, lame ass support, etc BUT THEU STILL FIND A WAY TO OWN NOOBS.
It's not like the game only lags for good players that is what I mean by overcome. Either deal with it or move on. The good ol days of COD are gone. I enjoy MW3 more but I loved killstreak setup in bo. No noob killstreaks but RC Car.
My issue is with the people that are in denial. Hardcore player ha become subjective. Too many people let these noobs kill them so instead of adjusting and playing with other vets to rape these noobs like good players do they would rather talk about how great old COD games were.
I play on parties. We know how noob friendly COD games are but a group of vets own these bums... If Support was gone noobs wpuld have zero chance.
If you're saying COD caters to noobs I am here for you. If you're sayong hardcore plauers cant still dominate Despite these issues then speak for yourself
Lag is a huge problem but it wasnt implemented for noobs rather for cheap internet connection lol.
It's not like the game only lags for good players that is what I mean by overcome. Either deal with it or move on. The good ol days of COD are gone. I enjoy MW3 more but I loved killstreak setup in bo. No noob killstreaks but RC Car.
My issue is with the people that are in denial. Hardcore player ha become subjective. Too many people let these noobs kill them so instead of adjusting and playing with other vets to rape these noobs like good players do they would rather talk about how great old COD games were.
I play on parties. We know how noob friendly COD games are but a group of vets own these bums... If Support was gone noobs wpuld have zero chance.
If you're saying COD caters to noobs I am here for you. If you're sayong hardcore plauers cant still dominate Despite these issues then speak for yourself
Lag is a huge problem but it wasnt implemented for noobs rather for cheap internet connection lol.
I see no problem with that. Yes of course veterans still own noobs but they still have a huge chance of winning, more so than any other CoD. I've lost so many matches of SnD because people ran around with akimbo FMGs. Have you ever seen a match between very mediocre players running support versus vets running assault? In most cases its the team running support that wins and that is a problem. Even worse is when both teams run support. It becomes a war of attrition and just isn't fun.
MW3 could have been a great game and some keys changes could potentially make it better. Will it be the next CoD4? No, but it would show that they are at least trying. The good of days of CoD aren't really gone. I had a blast last year playing BOPs hence my low post count; I was too busy enjoying it to have any rants. Now that this abortion of a game has come out I've been seeing nothing but problems and my post count is rising daily.
02-27-2012, 08:32 PM
#34
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by hitman2120
I see no problem with that. Yes of course veterans still own noobs but they still have a huge chance of winning, more so than any other CoD. I've lost so many matches of SnD because people ran around with akimbo FMGs. Have you ever seen a match between very mediocre players running support versus vets running assault? In most cases its the team running support that wins and that is a problem. Even worse is when both teams run support. It becomes a war of attrition and just isn't fun.
MW3 could have been a great game and some keys changes could potentially make it better. Will it be the next CoD4? No, but it would show that they are at least trying. The good of days of CoD aren't really gone. I had a blast last year playing BOPs hence my low post count; I was too busy enjoying it to have any rants. Now that this abortion of a game has come out I've been seeing nothing but problems and my post count is rising daily.
MW3 could have been a great game and some keys changes could potentially make it better. Will it be the next CoD4? No, but it would show that they are at least trying. The good of days of CoD aren't really gone. I had a blast last year playing BOPs hence my low post count; I was too busy enjoying it to have any rants. Now that this abortion of a game has come out I've been seeing nothing but problems and my post count is rising daily.
We both agree one one thing...
Support must go..
02-27-2012, 08:42 PM
#35
Millz
Worth the Weight
Everyone hates it and yet they continuously spend money on them, there has to be some reason why people just can't stop purchasing these games, it just doesn't make sense anymore.
If you hate the game, stop fucking buying the game and complaining, do yourself a favor. Seriously there shouldn't be people complaining if you don't like the game don't fucking buy it.
People buy the game just to complain, seriously I'm sick and fucking tired of this. Every game has it's ups and downs, some more than others in this case, but just learn to fucking deal with it and stop crying .
Jesus fucking Christ do you people act like this in real life too? WAAAA please smd because I don't like this but yet I chose to do it waaaa
Grow the fuck up. Ditch the game and go find something else to play, it's annoying as fuck listening to people complain 24/7 about everything, it's the sole reason I have no hope for the next generations, because they don't do anything but complain.
Life is fucking tough, get over your self and do everyone a favor, snap the disk in half and move on.
/end rant
If you hate the game, stop fucking buying the game and complaining, do yourself a favor. Seriously there shouldn't be people complaining if you don't like the game don't fucking buy it.
People buy the game just to complain, seriously I'm sick and fucking tired of this. Every game has it's ups and downs, some more than others in this case, but just learn to fucking deal with it and stop crying .
Jesus fucking Christ do you people act like this in real life too? WAAAA please smd because I don't like this but yet I chose to do it waaaa
Grow the fuck up. Ditch the game and go find something else to play, it's annoying as fuck listening to people complain 24/7 about everything, it's the sole reason I have no hope for the next generations, because they don't do anything but complain.
Life is fucking tough, get over your self and do everyone a favor, snap the disk in half and move on.
/end rant
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02-27-2012, 08:54 PM
#36
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by Millz59
Everyone hates it and yet they continuously spend money on them, there has to be some reason why people just can't stop purchasing these games, it just doesn't make sense anymore.
If you hate the game, stop $#@!ing buying the game and complaining, do yourself a favor. Seriously there shouldn't be people complaining if you don't like the game don't $#@!ing buy it.
People buy the game just to complain, seriously I'm sick and $#@!ing tired of this. Every game has it's ups and downs, some more than others in this case, but just learn to $#@!ing deal with it and stop crying .
Jesus $#@!ing Christ do you people act like this in real life too? WAAAA please smd because I don't like this but yet I chose to do it waaaa
Grow the $#@! up. Ditch the game and go find something else to play, it's annoying as $#@! listening to people complain 24/7 about everything, it's the sole reason I have no hope for the next generations, because they don't do anything but complain.
Life is $#@!ing tough, get over your self and do everyone a favor, snap the disk in half and move on.
/end rant
If you hate the game, stop $#@!ing buying the game and complaining, do yourself a favor. Seriously there shouldn't be people complaining if you don't like the game don't $#@!ing buy it.
People buy the game just to complain, seriously I'm sick and $#@!ing tired of this. Every game has it's ups and downs, some more than others in this case, but just learn to $#@!ing deal with it and stop crying .
Jesus $#@!ing Christ do you people act like this in real life too? WAAAA please smd because I don't like this but yet I chose to do it waaaa
Grow the $#@! up. Ditch the game and go find something else to play, it's annoying as $#@! listening to people complain 24/7 about everything, it's the sole reason I have no hope for the next generations, because they don't do anything but complain.
Life is $#@!ing tough, get over your self and do everyone a favor, snap the disk in half and move on.
/end rant
I applaud you. This COD section of this site went from discussing what we like and hate about COD games to mindlessly ranting year after year. People hate campers yet even if you rush they could say your connection, panic knifing, or overpowered weapon is a problem. There are a few people here who can articulate issues with the game. The rest either enjoy it, tolerate it, suck at ot or worst of all play it to the highest prestige, buying all dlc yet still bitching and giving COD4 a virtuall BJ. Like that girl bitching about her asshole boyfriend she can't leave. You learn to nod and pretend to listen. Knowing she just wants to vent until she's right back in his arms...
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02-27-2012, 09:24 PM
#37
+tA. Rick
Former Staff
I'm surprised how no one mentioned the derogatory term "kids" and how they meshed with the CoD community and society these days. :carling:
Another thing is the addition of new equipment that was introduced in the latter series (i.e. One Many Army, tactical insertions, trophy systems, support killstreaks, etc.) Sure they were used as an incentive to continue the hype of Call of Duty, but man were they horrifically exploited. As a matter of fact, most -if not all- of the new mechanisms that has been introduced to Call of Duty has been exploited for the worse. It was bound to occur anyways. IW just made it so we could get shitted on in the most explicable way.
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Another thing is the addition of new equipment that was introduced in the latter series (i.e. One Many Army, tactical insertions, trophy systems, support killstreaks, etc.) Sure they were used as an incentive to continue the hype of Call of Duty, but man were they horrifically exploited. As a matter of fact, most -if not all- of the new mechanisms that has been introduced to Call of Duty has been exploited for the worse. It was bound to occur anyways. IW just made it so we could get shitted on in the most explicable way.
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