Post: U.S. Army Accused Of 'Video Game'-Like Behavior In Disturbing Leaked Iraq War Video
04-06-2010, 08:24 AM #1
Caspa
Retired Mod
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Originally posted by another user
Investigative organization WikiLeaks released classified U.S. military video today showing the killing of more than a dozen Iraqis, including two Reuters employees, with a spokesperson for the whistle-blower group slamming the soldiers involved for their "video game" like behavior.

That video, which is incredibly disturbing and graphic, shows a group of Iraqis walking the streets of New Baghdad, identified as armed "insurgents" by military personnel. The group, which reportedly included Reuters photojournalist Namir Noor-Eldeen and assistant Saeed Chmagh, is gunned down by a pair of Apache attack helicopters. Later, a minivan that appears to come to the assistance of the wounded is fired upon.

Australian journalist and WikiLeaks advisory board member Julian Assange released the video at the National Press Club in Washington. "The behavior of the pilots is like they're playing a video game," said Assange, according to a report from Fox News. "It's like they want to get high-scores in that computer game."


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04-06-2010, 11:52 PM #56
They should've at least been a little sorry for taking people's lives. Saying things like "F*cking Prick" and stuff like that, it's like Modern Warfare 2 in a chopper gunner. I am honestly disgusted how my own country's army can find that funny that a Humvee ran over a body. Such a shame.
04-07-2010, 12:54 AM #57
RICHIE209
March 6, 2011.
Originally posted by InSaNiTyPlEa View Post
They should've at least been a little sorry for taking people's lives. Saying things like "F*cking Prick" and stuff like that, it's like Modern Warfare 2 in a chopper gunner. I am honestly disgusted how my own country's army can find that funny that a Humvee ran over a body. Such a shame.


Oh yeah, you know, when one of those terrorists kill an American(if they get beheaded or some other form of torturous death) it gets recorded and the murderer is considered a hero. Nah, being glad of killing someone who is and associates with terrorists is a wonderful thing. My cousin(Iraq vet, Afghanistan in 2011) had to run over 2 fajis to save the life of him and his team(they had explosives in hand during while he was driving). Did he get a medal? No. He almost got court marshaled, got demoted back to PFC. and lost his driving spot. American soldiers in the middle east have to go through so much just to fire a shot, it's bullshit. These Iraqis can just sit there in civilian clothes and set off bombs in the middle of a plaza. This war is unfair for the U.S.

These soldiers should be proud of killing all of those men.

As far as the children, it's unfortunate, but it happens. All the soldiers knew is that there were enemies and people trying to take enemies. They were cleared to fire. Everything was by the book.

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MeltdowN
04-07-2010, 01:13 AM #58
.Taco
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i just say that the guy was jealous of the collateral so he decided to get him in trouble ^_^.

no but on a seriouse note; this is bullshit, there is absolutely no video game like behavior. If those really were cameras then it was a mistake, hell they're only half a mile above the guys. You don't see anyone going around quickscoping or t-bagging. Everything about this was to military standards or at least to what i've seen of them. they asked permission to fire and were granted before touching the trigger. Don't see the video game here.
04-07-2010, 01:15 AM #59
i wonder if they beat he hackers of that video game?
04-07-2010, 01:09 PM #60
Como
Here's to Loonyology!
Originally posted by Fierceknucks View Post
No one really knows the facts about this. News from Baghdad is always spun and corrupted before it gets out of the country


And News that you are fed in Amreica isn't?!

I can't believe most of you guys, and tbh it's mostly American's backing the gunner in the Apache, that he was right to do so. That is wrong of you to say so, as your eyes must be lying to you about what happened there, and also the facts of who the 2 reporter's were must be evading you!

This is a killing of 8 people in cold blood, not justified, nor founded. RPG's are not easy to hit a helicopter with, especially being as far away as the people on the ground are. The gunner know's there are no ground troops to engage the "supposed terrorists", as stated in the video, therefore knowing he would get the go ahead.
He provokes for the go ahead even more by stating they have been shot at, clearly a lie. The enjoyment he gets from killing people, innocent or not, is disgusting, and not in line with any code of conduct army personel are supposed to adhere to.

Split second decision to make.... Why not take another split second and make the right decision?!

They are in the air, why not fly just outside of the RPG's range and watch closely to see what their activity is about? Why not avoid the killing of 8 people, by having the proper intel in place letting them know reporter's were in the area during this time? Why are there not intensive screenings for people who are going to be the gunner of an Apache helicopter, ie. Mental Health?

This footage was released because the gunner WAS in the wrong, and it needs to be addressed. Unstable individuals, as this guy has shown himself to be, need to be rehabilitated before it is too late. There's a fine line out there, and in my opinion this guy has jumped over it....

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04-07-2010, 01:26 PM #61
ShAdoW_RiDa
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Originally posted by Como View Post
And News that you are fed in Amreica isn't?!

I can't believe most of you guys, and tbh it's mostly American's backing the gunner in the Apache, that he was right to do so. That is wrong of you to say so, as your eyes must be lying to you about what happened there, and also the facts of who the 2 reporter's were must be evading you!

This is a killing of 8 people in cold blood, not justified, nor founded. RPG's are not easy to hit a helicopter with, especially being as far away as the people on the ground are. The gunner know's there are no ground troops to engage the "supposed terrorists", as stated in the video, therefore knowing he would get the go ahead.
He provokes for the go ahead even more by stating they have been shot at, clearly a lie. The enjoyment he gets from killing people, innocent or not, is disgusting, and not in line with any code of conduct army personel are supposed to adhere to.

Split second decision to make.... Why not take another split second and make the right decision?!

They are in the air, why not fly just outside of the RPG's range and watch closely to see what their activity is about? Why not avoid the killing of 8 people, by having the proper intel in place letting them know reporter's were in the area during this time? Why are there not intensive screenings for people who are going to be the gunner of an Apache helicopter, ie. Mental Health?

This footage was released because the gunner WAS in the wrong, and it needs to be addressed. Unstable individuals, as this guy has shown himself to be, need to be rehabilitated before it is too late. There's a fine line out there, and in my opinion this guy has jumped over it....


I agree totally como. Atleast you're not a savage like some people on this forum,who say it was right and death to them,just because they are terrorists. That's the only reason people ever agree and say it was the right choice,because they are terrorists!!

You wouldn't be saying that if it weren't terrorists getting killed. I for one hate it when these videos get put on NGU,because everyone is like death to the terrorists.

Terrorists=Muslims (Some are anyway)
I=Muslim

That's why I hate it when people comment on videos and threads like these... :(

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04-07-2010, 06:18 PM #62
xinfectedsoulx
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Originally posted by RICHIE209 View Post
I agree with infected, the only reason it's considered video game like is because they were proud they took out terrorists, what a horrible thing /sarcasm.

I'm glad these terrorist pricks were killed and that one had to die slowly. **** him, his unstable government and his terrorist buddies. We are in Iraq to free Iraq "Hence OPERATION:IRAQI FREEDOM" Every soldier in that mission deserves a medal. They saved a lot of lives of not only civilians, but possibly fellow soldiers. They should be glad and willing to kill more. The fajis obviously had weapons and intent to cause damage. Everything in that video was up to ROE standards and up to par with the Geneva convention. Good kills. And comparing war to a video game is an insult to soldiers.


Originally posted by RICHIE209 View Post
Oh yeah, you know, when one of those terrorists kill an American(if they get beheaded or some other form of torturous death) it gets recorded and the murderer is considered a hero. Nah, being glad of killing someone who is and associates with terrorists is a wonderful thing. My cousin(Iraq vet, Afghanistan in 2011) had to run over 2 fajis to save the life of him and his team(they had explosives in hand during while he was driving). Did he get a medal? No. He almost got court marshaled, got demoted back to PFC. and lost his driving spot. American soldiers in the middle east have to go through so much just to fire a shot, it's bullshit. These Iraqis can just sit there in civilian clothes and set off bombs in the middle of a plaza. This war is unfair for the U.S.

These soldiers should be proud of killing all of those men.


You know, you are saying that when the terrorists murder a soldier they are proud and are hailed a hero and not giving a ****, yet YOU yourself are doing the EXACT same thing here. YOU are saying they were in the right, saying they are heros, basically saying the exact same thing about these soldiers killing terrorists as they say about killing soldiers. American and British forces ARE terrorists to them. That's what they believe. But because you are an American, you think that your country can kill who they want how they want, but when a different country does it you don't like it. Americans don't own the world like you think. Those killings were cold blooded. There was no justified reason for them. They only got permission to fire because they said the "terrorists" fired shots, knowing that they have the right to defend themselves, therefore knowing they can kill them. No way on hell would an RPG have taken down the Helicopter from that range. Honestly, the people defending the soldiers there are no better than the terrorists who be-head our soldiers.

Originally posted by another user
As far as the children, it's unfortunate, but it happens. All the soldiers knew is that there were enemies and people trying to take enemies. They were cleared to fire. Everything was by the book.


He didn't even sound sorry, or remotely shocked at the fact he almost killed two children. Basically that shooter might as well be a child killer back in the states. Would he be a hero then? or would he be a sick, twisted person that needs to be locked up and killed?
Everything was by the book because of the things they said like "shots fired" because like I said, they know they would be allowed to shoot.
04-07-2010, 08:06 PM #63
Originally posted by RiDa View Post


Terrorists=Muslims (Some are anyway)
I=Muslim

That's why I hate it when people comment on videos and threads like these... :(


Wow, Great job stereo typing your own people. A terrorist is a person who terrorizes others. The definition of terrorist is not Muslims, a terrorist can be from any background.

It's people like you that make shit statements like that then get upset when another person makes that same statement. Stop being hypocritical and speaking ill of your religion.
04-07-2010, 08:31 PM #64
Fierceknucks
Former Staff
Originally posted by Como View Post
And News that you are fed in Amreica isn't?!

I can't believe most of you guys, and tbh it's mostly American's backing the gunner in the Apache, that he was right to do so. That is wrong of you to say so, as your eyes must be lying to you about what happened there, and also the facts of who the 2 reporter's were must be evading you!

This is a killing of 8 people in cold blood, not justified, nor founded. RPG's are not easy to hit a helicopter with, especially being as far away as the people on the ground are. The gunner know's there are no ground troops to engage the "supposed terrorists", as stated in the video, therefore knowing he would get the go ahead.
He provokes for the go ahead even more by stating they have been shot at, clearly a lie. The enjoyment he gets from killing people, innocent or not, is disgusting, and not in line with any code of conduct army personel are supposed to adhere to.

Split second decision to make.... Why not take another split second and make the right decision?!

They are in the air, why not fly just outside of the RPG's range and watch closely to see what their activity is about? Why not avoid the killing of 8 people, by having the proper intel in place letting them know reporter's were in the area during this time? Why are there not intensive screenings for people who are going to be the gunner of an Apache helicopter, ie. Mental Health?

This footage was released because the gunner WAS in the wrong, and it needs to be addressed. Unstable individuals, as this guy has shown himself to be, need to be rehabilitated before it is too late. There's a fine line out there, and in my opinion this guy has jumped over it....



I never said anything about "news in america" and this still doesn't prove anything about the footage. This is just a rant.

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