that is true he sugg. it.
but whatever its what our culture is

Also, a debate is purposeless unless there's solid proof of each side. Neither side has solid proof.

yes, very true. everything in my post was open-ended logical thinking.

I am basing this post off of my experience in my Biology Honors class. As I have learned about how life was "supposedly" started makes me believe in God even stronger. I study the Bible and Science. They indirectly correspond to each other.

The book of Genesis states that God created animals, before life. It also says that God created everything in 7 days. God does not run on "time" he does not use measurement (cubit, pound, etc.). Genesis states that God created all things in 7 days. God would not have said it took me X days to do this. I believe God stated what occurred in the proper order. Then the book states those events in the simplest format, days.

This is my opinion, I do not have any proof, other than the Bible. If you wish for any form of evidence or anything of that sort, feel free to ask. I do not worship God to go to heaven, it is out of faith and respect for him to lead me in the proper direction throughout my life.

Even if religion is false, I know that I am a better person by following all the dogma/rules my Bible preaches.

This is also one of the most debated topics ever, I think we have enough mature members to be able to talk about religion and be civilized about it. Plus this thread is going to get closed as soon as things get out-of-hand.

this is a very good debate.

i for one, believe there is a god. not just to go to heaven, but for myself, my family and my salvation. i believe that worshiping god is the only way for eternal life as stated in the bible and he is the one and only god. as i have stated many times in my other thread, thousands of recordings have been recovered and all state similar concepts and actions. therefore there must be something those people had seen or experienced. i have no proof of this. but i believe this is real. because i don't see how anyone could possibly make something like this up. something that is favored by nearly 50% of the population world-wide. and as coltz said, "Even if religion is false, I know that I am a better person by following all the dogma/rules my Bible preaches." i know that these rules are the morally correct actions and this is common sense. so i follow what they say and make myself a better person even if religion is false. and, as all of us have done, i've sometimes doubted the existence of such a thing as heaven or god, but i've come to always get myself on the right track and relize that everything that happens, god has made happen for a reason. maybe its not a good reason, maybe it is. he has consequences and rewards for everything we do and he always knows what we are going to do. god gave us his only son for us to have eternal life. the least we could do is follow his guidings and do the morally correct things in life. even the small ones such as community service or something like that. i know i got a bit out of hand here but this is what i beleive and i will stick to it no matter what anybody says. these are just my beliefs and if i have, i'm sorry if i offended you.

please, give serious answers about this. i take this topic very seriously and i hate seeing immature little kids and some teenagers who think they are cool and come in here and say something like "i believe in god cuz i want to" give a reasoning. if you truely believe, then you would know why.

I still say that there is no definite way to argue this. It'll go like so:

"Well god is real because of (5 paragraphs from a 2000 year old book) and I'm sticking to it"
"Well that's bullshit cause it isn't proveded; science is right"
"That's more bullshit cause science isn't proveded either"

I still stay with my belief in science. I don't believe there's an invisible man that's all good, and he hasn't proven himself to live in any way to exist, and he's left all this shit on the planet to go on. People take out half a country with a nuclear bomb and nothing happens, that shouldn't happen. If he's the righteous person every bible-thumper says he is, he should frigging do something.

Then again science hasn't been proven to be true, but nothing has disproven it as surely as religion has been.

Your "Bible thumpers" don't actually read the Bible. If they read the Bible they would know that God isn't fair, he isn't all good 100% of the time. He lets bad things happen for a greater good. I'll addon to this later, when it isn't 1:37 AM and I can think logically ://

The greater good is the reason war's going on all day and night. "Well we killed a quarter million people, for the greater good." Instead of killing people and letting shit go on, do something about it that doesn't involve murder.

War is not murder moron. If it is for a cause, it is not murder. It is murder when innocent people get killed, when one is defending something (such as themselves, family, country, etc.) it is not murder.