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I'm sure anyone with half a brain realizes that America is currently engaging in a war, they've been engaged in previous wars and will be engaged in wars to come. My question is, do you guys think the USA is the innocent one is these wars?

My opinion, hell no. The war against Afghanistan and the Taliban was caused by Americans, you can choose not to believe me but it is true. Take a class on world issues or do some research and you'll see why.
I hate to touch on such a sensitive subject, but I think 9/11 could have been avoided if Americans kept their nose out of business that isn't theirs.

I actually feel sorry for those who think that your soldiers are fighting for such a good cause (they are defending your country, yes, but think about why it needs to be defended in the first place), I respect any soldier greatly for what they are doing but some people are under the illusion that the USA is innocent when the war you are facing right now is your fault.

No American bashing intended, btw.

I say the uk should run out the war and leave amercia in it.

Seriously we only went into the war cause of N.A.T.O and all that piss.

Considering Americans are at fault in this war, I agree. Again, this may sound like me being an ass, but if Americans want to start a war, they should be the ones to fight it, alone. Because of them, countries that are originally innocent are being dragged into it.

I find that the americans have been way to aggressive in foreign matters since world war 2. In most cases it have brought them nothing but hate around the world. Or mostly hate. I can understand Afghanistan. It was just after 9/11 and having the worlds greatest military and not to do something...would seem weird I guess..maybe they should just have bombed it to pieces and leave it at that? I don't know but the cost of the war in men lost and money spent...seems like it's not worth it.

Maybe having such a huge and advanced fighting machine not in action, makes people war hungry?

I'm American, just saying.

What possible purpose could this thread serve except to start a war.
Haven't we all been sucked into one of those already?

>inb4 complete SHITSTORM.

Thread re-opened. Keep it clean and treat this like a debate instead of just flaming

The UK need to stop being the US's Pilot fish. We always follow them in the hope for safety and an ally in return. As part of the UN and N.A.T.O we already have the US ally, so why oh why do we have such large troop numbers deployed. Sure you could say that as part of the UN and N.A.T.O it is our Job to defend these people. How? By going into their country and starting a war? Sad to be harsh but, that's not our business. If England encountered a problem, would we want the U.S.A to rush into our country blowing up friend and foe alike? No.

Do you even know why 9/11 happened?

Wow, way to contribute to the debate.

9/11 occurred because the USA cannot keep out of other countries affairs. They pissed off Afghanistan and with that they pissed off Bin Laden. Bin Laden is obviously quite the charismatic person if he can tell people to hijack a plane and kill themselves in the process.
The best part is, is that you think terrorism is an act of violence, which while it is, is more retaliation.
Terrorism is merely a way that a weak force (Afghanistan) pushed back against a strong force that is bullying it (real or perceived bullying). You can love America as much as you like, but don't ignore the darker facts.

Here is a paragraph for you to read on the matter.
"The US version of western civilization has been exported to the rest of the world. Not everyone else in the world appreciates it or wants it. Also there is no corner of the world that does not feel the influence of the US.
A group that doesn't like US influence governing their activities decided to make a statement and what a statement it was.
The US is not the benevolent influence we americans like mythologize. Outside the US our influence can be quite uncaring and brutal, all in the name of national interest. The US has never been that entity other than brief events that were typically the result of individual actions. The arabs have no more reason to love the US than the native americans."

I love this thread. America need to keep the noses out of everything that doesn't concern them. What I don't like is that only America believe that only they can go to war. Such as the recent incident with North and South Korea. North bombed south. America told the South not to retaliate after the initial retaliation. The same scenario, different people. Al-Qaeda hit the trade centres. America retaliate by going to war with the Taliban, the "suspects". Get my point? The war has killed more people than it's worth. Yet when SK get's attacked and has deaths, America tell them not to go to war. WTF is with that shit? Why is it only America who can pick the wars? Is it because America only want to go to war with weak people. Take WW1+2. Despite what the brain washed Americans think, Germany was on it's knees at the time they jumped in, in both wars, giving them a somewhat weak enemy. Then we have Vietnam. A country which isn't as developed as the West at the time. They would seem weak, wouldn't they? A country that can't afford much, they won't be that hard to defeat, would they? They got their arses kicked. Now we have the Taliban. An extremist group who fight in sandals. Not a huge threat it would seem. Sandals, scooters, AK's, no advanced weapons etc. Wrong again. They have proved that they aren't a pushover with the war lasting 9 years(?).
Then when it comes to NK, who have nukes, have a huge army, advanced weapons etc, America tell SK not to attack. Why's that you think, taking into account what I just said.
And then the American government wonder why they have national security threats.