Post: Sexuality
10-16-2011, 04:46 PM #1
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Anyway, onto the debate itself- sexuality. There are many different labels of sexuality, so I'd thought I'd list them below(largely C/P to save time, if I missed any or falsely described anything let me know):

  • Heterosexuality- Is the sexual attraction between members of the opposite sexes such as a man attracted to a woman and vice-versa.
  • Homosexuality- is the sexual attraction between members of the same sexes such as man to man and woman to woman.
  • Bisexuality- Is the sexual attraction to both the opposite and same sexes such as man to man and man to woman, woman to woman and woman to man.
  • Asexuality- Is also known as nonsexuality which is the lack of sexual attraction and sexual interest towards others.
  • Polysexuality- Is the sexual attraction to more than one gender but do not wish to be known as bisexual as it implies that there are only two binary sexes, do not confuse this with pansexuality ('pan' meaning all) and ('poly' meaning many).
  • Pansexuality- Is the sexual attraction towards people regardless of gender also known as omnisexuality. Some pansexuals refer to themselves as gender blind as to them gender is insignificant in determining whether they will be sexually attracted to others.
  • Transexualism- Is when a person identifies themselves as a certain sex different from their own biological one. For example a person may be born male, and is uncomfortable with their gender as a male and changes to a female, or vice-versa.

Personally I'm heterosexual, however I have no problems with other people expressing their own sexuality and being who they really are.

Feel free to comment below and be honest, then hopefully this thread can be used to maturely discuss sexuality away from the nonsense you so often see elsewhere Smile
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02-20-2013, 12:40 AM #200
Keomo
Can’t trickshot me!
Originally posted by Clutch
I think you've completely misread both of my posts - I'm in favour of gay parents, incestuous parents, and whatever other type of persecuted parents you can think of. I compared them to other minorities in the past to show that things get better, but that can't happen if you restrict their right to raise children.


If your in favor of those types of parents then why are you comparing them to "minorities" and people of color? You would know that you cannot compare the two as they lead completely different lives and have to deal with different kinds of flack every other day. Yes, persecuted, but for different reasons. If gay marriage is becoming less and less controversial to the point of allowing it in more places, then im pretty sure that having "sexually different" or even "non-white" parents/caretakers can be less of a bad or even strange thing right? Besides that has nothing to do with how a parent is in general, its all about their personality, sex or race should not matter at all, but people see things differently.

Originally posted by Harlem
What if the child has a negative thought about their parents being gay? Nowadays most kids use the term "gay" to disrespect a topic. And I'm sure it'd be even worse if the kid went to school and had to live everyday knowing that his/her parents are gay.


Well i agree that those thoughts would come up, but that's only a systematic way of thinking "Oh if everyone has this then its cool if i have this too right?" So basically if more "gay" parents were to show up it wouldnt be all that big a deal anymore right? Besides those children should be more sexually aware anyways, yes we have gay people in the world, who the hell cares if they gay- its not that big a deal. But the thing is, it would be really awkward and strange to deal with explaining to a child, oh hi my name is steve- this here is bob- we're your parents. "But where's mom?" -Cue Moonlight Sonata.

I was speaking generally about gay people as parents, not their faults or the viewpoints of the child, but every child has viewpoints of their parents correct? The relationship is what is key, but here's a counterargument to what you said- would it be better to live with that fact or to live with the fact that a father is a convicted rapist/woman beater/whatever the hell else is bad that you can make up).

That weighs down on a child as well, but then everything of what our parents are carry on to us in some direct/indirect way, and thats always good insight into how someone grows up.

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02-20-2013, 01:45 AM #201
Originally posted by Keomo View Post
Well i agree that those thoughts would come up, but that's only a systematic way of thinking "Oh if everyone has this then its cool if i have this too right?" So basically if more "gay" parents were to show up it wouldnt be all that big a deal anymore right? Besides those children should be more sexually aware anyways, yes we have gay people in the world, who the hell cares if they gay- its not that big a deal. But the thing is, it would be really awkward and strange to deal with explaining to a child, oh hi my name is steve- this here is bob- we're your parents. "But where's mom?" -Cue Moonlight Sonata.

I was speaking generally about gay people as parents, not their faults or the viewpoints of the child, but every child has viewpoints of their parents correct? The relationship is what is key, but here's a counterargument to what you said- would it be better to live with that fact or to live with the fact that a father is a convicted rapist/woman beater/whatever the hell else is bad that you can make up).

That weighs down on a child as well, but then everything of what our parents are carry on to us in some direct/indirect way, and thats always good insight into how someone grows up.


Well said.

I completely agree with the fact that if there were more gay parents then the kids wouldn't really think of it negatively anymore.
03-03-2013, 08:05 PM #202
Rokiz
Death is hereditary
I myself, I label myself as Pansexual, for the simple fact I don't really believe in genders. I think you like who you like. If I was lebeled out of Gay or Straight, I've only ever had girlfriends and also did sexual things with girls. I don't think I'm pansexual since I'm not attracted to any men I know of, but I believe in the theory behind it.
03-03-2013, 08:15 PM #203
.James
Who’s Jim Erased?
Originally posted by Keomo View Post
If your in favor of those types of parents then why are you comparing them to "minorities" and people of color? You would know that you cannot compare the two as they lead completely different lives and have to deal with different kinds of flack every other day.


Same meat different gravy.
03-03-2013, 08:49 PM #204
I'm straight and have always been this way the internet has made me a little more gay but that's about it. In this day and age though people need to be more open to sexuality and more accepting of what people find attractive or arousing. It was illegal to be gay less than 100 years ago but in this day and age putting someone in prison for being a homosexual would be considered absurd. I hope we make similar strides forward like this within the next 100 years because a lot needs to be addressed in the realms of sexuality

I'd love to talk more about this topic and sexual fetishism in general but NGU really isn't the place for that despite how inviting this thread looks.
03-03-2013, 09:16 PM #205
Sexuality is a lot like Religion, it's totally cool to talk about about it, but as soon as there's any attempt to "convert" someone then there a problem. Let people figure it out on there own, it's a confusing topic.
03-04-2013, 05:09 PM #206
.James
Who’s Jim Erased?
Originally posted by xkurd4lifex View Post
everything happens foor a reason so yolo


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03-05-2013, 03:23 AM #207
GDP
"Child please..." - C. Johnson
Alright. Here's my take on sexualism: it's bullsh*t. You know why I think it's bullsh*t? Look at some of the redundancies associated with it; "Hi. I'm gay. I'm perfectly fine with being gay. However, I want to fit in this "club" (Christianity) that OPENLY CONDEMNS homosexuality. I don't understand why they feel negatively towards me. Please help..." If I'm not invited into a private country club because I don't meet the "requirements", then guess what? I don't meet the EFFin' requirements! If two men want to be "curious" with one another (what are you curious about? You've got whatever he's got! Duh!), then...whatever. Not my modus operandi but...knock yourselves out. Just don't force those certain clubs to suddently say, "Oh! We've had these rules in place! We should suddenly/drastically change them because...the gay guy says so! Absolutely, Mr. Gay guy!" If you want to indulge in crazy sexual, weirdo, animal-fighting, same-sex-poking whatever in the bedroom, that's your thing. Just stop force feeding something that's NOT the cultural norm on everyone else, is my problem with it...

Another thing: someone mentioned about strides being made for gay people. Let me tell you my point on that; we're all ONE PEOPLE. Some areas of the world have different CULTURES, is all. Now, I'm in the Good 'Ol US of A. I don't know how anyone else feels about it but...that's not our culture (as a whole, I mean). By all means, you can go where YOU'Awesome face like to go, to..."spread your wings". Again, knock yourself out. But if that's not culturally acceptable where you live then...you're not with the program.

Last thing: ANYTHING can be considered "acceptable" over time. I could hate chicken with everything in my soul. If I was fed chicken with no other choice from now until the rest of my life, guess what? I'd probably grow to (at the very least) tolerate it. My kids, if they were force fed chicken every day of their lives, they'd (more than likely) grow to love it early. My point is: with all this "acceptance" talk in society today, where's the line? Everything's "okay"? Someone mentioned about being a pedophile just needs to be "managed". Pshyeah, good luck with that. Let me run into a pedophile who's "trying to manage their urges" by moving a couple of blocks away from a school and they "fail". I'm probably gonna fail at managing my urges, too. If you know what I mean...

Overall point: Everything's not "alright". Society needs guidelines, and when you let the freaks run the asylum because the guards are too weak-minded, then...you get Oktoberfest...lol. Just playing.

Well, not really playing... :-/

End of rant...for now...
03-05-2013, 04:22 AM #208
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Originally posted by GDP View Post
Alright. Here's my take on sexualism: it's bullsh*t. You know why I think it's bullsh*t? Look at some of the redundancies associated with it; "Hi. I'm gay. I'm perfectly fine with being gay. However, I want to fit in this "club" (Christianity) that OPENLY CONDEMNS homosexuality. I don't understand why they feel negatively towards me. Please help..." If I'm not invited into a private country club because I don't meet the "requirements", then guess what? I don't meet the EFFin' requirements!

Well for one that, in some scenarios, could be considered discrimination. Then there is the fact there are plenty of Christians completely fine with homosexuality.

Originally posted by GDP View Post
If two men want to be "curious" with one another (what are you curious about? You've got whatever he's got! Duh!), then...whatever. Not my modus operandi but...knock yourselves out. Just don't force those certain clubs to suddently say, "Oh! We've had these rules in place! We should suddenly/drastically change them because...the gay guy says so! Absolutely, Mr. Gay guy!" If you want to indulge in crazy sexual, weirdo, animal-fighting, same-sex-poking whatever in the bedroom, that's your thing. Just stop force feeding something that's NOT the cultural norm on everyone else, is my problem with it...

You do realize that has nothing to do with it right? It's about discrimination more so than anything. It isn't as if there were massive orgies just happening out in public. And with your logic certain clubs shouldn't have to change to racism and other prejudices.


Originally posted by GDP View Post
Another thing: someone mentioned about strides being made for gay people. Let me tell you my point on that; we're all ONE PEOPLE. Some areas of the world have different CULTURES, is all. Now, I'm in the Good 'Ol US of A. I don't know how anyone else feels about it but...that's not our culture (as a whole, I mean). By all means, you can go where YOU'Awesome face like to go, to..."spread your wings". Again, knock yourself out. But if that's not culturally acceptable where you live then...you're not with the program.

Once again, your argument could easily be used to defend racism or any other form of prejudice. You are also wrong considering a majority of Americans support more rights, for the homosexual community. 78% of Americans believe in inheritance rights for gay and lesbian spouses, 77% believe in health insurance to cover, 61% believe in adoption rights. Back in 2011, 53% of Americans supported gay marriage. (Source: You must login or register to view this content.)

The other issue with "culturally acceptable" is once again the argument dealing with racism, slavery, genocides, etc...



Originally posted by GDP View Post
Last thing: ANYTHING can be considered "acceptable" over time. I could hate chicken with everything in my soul. If I was fed chicken with no other choice from now until the rest of my life, guess what? I'd probably grow to (at the very least) tolerate it. My kids, if they were force fed chicken every day of their lives, they'd (more than likely) grow to love it early.

To start off, you do know your comparing civil rights to dinner right? Yes? Just making sure.


Originally posted by GDP View Post
My point is: with all this "acceptance" talk in society today, where's the line? Everything's "okay"? Someone mentioned about being a pedophile just needs to be "managed". Pshyeah, good luck with that. Let me run into a pedophile who's "trying to manage their urges" by moving a couple of blocks away from a school and they "fail". I'm probably gonna fail at managing my urges, too. If you know what I mean...

You yourself mentioned us all being people, and to discriminate unfairly isn't just. Pedophilia is not homosexuality. In fact it is far more complex and difficult to deal with as a society.


Originally posted by GDP View Post
Overall point: Everything's not "alright". Society needs guidelines, and when you let the freaks run the asylum because the guards are too weak-minded, then...you get Oktoberfest...lol. Just playing.

Well, not really playing... :-/

End of rant...for now...

Okay I'm gonna start here.

For one, you can't argue the majority decide what's okay to occur in a state, then say that there has to be limits that aren't overridden by the majority. If you want to argue as a framework for a country, then you have somewhat of an argument, but your talking about a "social issue". I use quotations because people being homosexual shouldn't affect you in the least. No more than someone else's heterosexuality.

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