Post: Sexuality
10-16-2011, 04:46 PM #1
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Anyway, onto the debate itself- sexuality. There are many different labels of sexuality, so I'd thought I'd list them below(largely C/P to save time, if I missed any or falsely described anything let me know):

  • Heterosexuality- Is the sexual attraction between members of the opposite sexes such as a man attracted to a woman and vice-versa.
  • Homosexuality- is the sexual attraction between members of the same sexes such as man to man and woman to woman.
  • Bisexuality- Is the sexual attraction to both the opposite and same sexes such as man to man and man to woman, woman to woman and woman to man.
  • Asexuality- Is also known as nonsexuality which is the lack of sexual attraction and sexual interest towards others.
  • Polysexuality- Is the sexual attraction to more than one gender but do not wish to be known as bisexual as it implies that there are only two binary sexes, do not confuse this with pansexuality ('pan' meaning all) and ('poly' meaning many).
  • Pansexuality- Is the sexual attraction towards people regardless of gender also known as omnisexuality. Some pansexuals refer to themselves as gender blind as to them gender is insignificant in determining whether they will be sexually attracted to others.
  • Transexualism- Is when a person identifies themselves as a certain sex different from their own biological one. For example a person may be born male, and is uncomfortable with their gender as a male and changes to a female, or vice-versa.

Personally I'm heterosexual, however I have no problems with other people expressing their own sexuality and being who they really are.

Feel free to comment below and be honest, then hopefully this thread can be used to maturely discuss sexuality away from the nonsense you so often see elsewhere Smile
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03-07-2013, 01:56 AM #218
Keomo
Can’t trickshot me!
Originally posted by Clutch
Personally I'm heterosexual, however I have no problems with other people expressing their own sexuality and being who they really are.


^Before i start multi quoting the crap out of all of you i want this very sentence right here to be known, and known well.

Originally posted by .James View Post
Same meat different gravy.


Not really, i dont know how you can compare a BLACK person, to a GAY person. Sexuality=/=RACE thats completely different and has a different effect on how someone lives life. Also, the problems- causes of those problems and effects of those problems are COMPLETELY different, its not enough to call them a rofl "Bully?" but it is enough to call it massive trolling on a global scale. When a guy turns gay, his fate is already sealed, but gay people are becoming more and more accepted in society.

Originally posted by Madison
I'm straight and have always been this way the internet has made me a little more gay but that's about it. In this day and age though people need to be more open to sexuality and more accepting of what people find attractive or arousing. It was illegal to be gay less than 100 years ago but in this day and age putting someone in prison for being a homosexual would be considered absurd. I hope we make similar strides forward like this within the next 100 years because a lot needs to be addressed in the realms of sexuality

I'd love to talk more about this topic and sexual fetishism in general but NGU really isn't the place for that despite how inviting this thread looks.


The Internet has made you more gay? Do tell. Also err, there have been gay people since the dawn of time, this shit isnt new my manz. More open to sexuality? Hey, whatever rafts your shaft LMAO ahem.

Originally posted by GDP View Post
Alright. Here's my take on sexualism: it's bullsh*t. You know why I think it's bullsh*t? Look at some of the redundancies associated with it; "Hi. I'm gay. I'm perfectly fine with being gay. However, I want to fit in this "club" (Christianity) that OPENLY CONDEMNS homosexuality. If two men want to be "curious" with one another (what are you curious about? You've got whatever he's got! Duh!), then...whatever. Not my modus operandi but...knock yourselves out. Just don't force those certain clubs to suddently say, "Oh! We've had these rules in place! We should suddenly/drastically change them because...the gay guy says so! Absolutely, Mr. Gay guy!" If you want to indulge in crazy sexual, weirdo, animal-fighting, same-sex-poking whatever in the bedroom, that's your thing. Just stop force feeding something that's NOT the cultural norm on everyone else, is my problem with it...

Last thing: ANYTHING can be considered "acceptable" over time. I could hate chicken with everything in my soul. If I was fed chicken with no other choice from now until the rest of my life, guess what? I'd probably grow to (at the very least) tolerate it. My kids, if they were force fed chicken every day of their lives, they'd (more than likely) grow to love it early. My point is: with all this "acceptance" talk in society today, where's the line? Everything's "okay"? Someone mentioned about being a pedophile just needs to be "managed".

Overall point: Everything's not "alright". Society needs guidelines, and when you let the freaks run the asylum because the guards are too weak-minded, then...you get Oktoberfest...lol. Just playing.

Well, not really playing... :-/

End of rant...for now...


This guy deserves a medal or something. Lol seriously what.

Originally posted by GDP View Post
Just4hax:

Look, I'm not going to go into the details of this and that, to offer a rebuttal to your post. I think I've made myself clear on my stance. What I will elaborate on is this point (which, you and alot of other members probably won't understand): There are things that are in place by our elders, rules and guidelines that they've set forth for us, that we don't understand. I associate that lack of understanding with a modern society of "Know-It-Alls", myself.

I'm just saying, it's alot deeper than "I want to sleep with whoever I want to sleep with!" or "I'd like to do all type of crazy sh*t in broad daylight and nobody can say anything about it!" Pshyeah...lol. The USA comes off as America the Free, but trust me. You'd better get your mind right...lol. The prison guards (government) are NOT PLAYING...

On another note: Sorry to sound insensitive but...look. I know me, I know us guys. Why in the world do you want to get with another man, anyway? What the HELL? You're CURIOUS? Curious...about what? Some things I don't need to "experiment with" to find out about it! What's wrong with women? GDamn, are you trying to catch the Ultimate Orgasm or something?

Now shut up and sell me some GDamn trophies, GDamnit...lol. Just messing...

Lmao what.

---------- Post added 03-05-2013 at 12:57 AM ---------- Previous post was 03-04-2013 at 11:53 PM ----------

I see that my reputation went down, after this past post. I'm excited about that. Just another example of how nobody REALLY wants to see different points of views. Nobody REALLY wants to expand their mind, or see things from another perspective. They just want you to agree with them. And if you don't, well...I'm gonna get you! You're the bad guy! Gay is good! Straight is hate!

This added part isn't directed to you, Just4hax. Just people who want to stay in the background and throw stones at me.

Thanks for playing...


Lol seriously wut.

Originally posted by Clutch




No, it isn't deeper than that. It's a civil rights issue, and as the enlightened become the majority you'll see the law change. It happened with things like slavery, interracial marriage, women's rights, et cetera. This is just the next one in that list.



Replace the word 'man' with 'woman', 'women' with 'men', and 'Kate Upton' with 'Tom Cruise', or whoever is considered an attractive male celebrity. That's how stupid this post is.



You're a homophobic, deluded, antagonist fool. Because beyond this post there's nothing more I can do, I've repped you negatively as well.


Sexuality is a civil rights issue? Dude are you serious.

Lmao, your the one that started this topic, you dont expect different points of view, differing arguments, homophobia, among other things- and gay-bashing? Even though i havent really seen much of any in here as of yet... ok maybe a few trace amounts, but i believe that GDP was merely stating what they thought and nothing more... then you have the nerve to claim them as an antagonist? Shame on you, please scroll up to your comment about this topic, your welcoming opinions here, so sit down and let them get posted.

Sexuality is a life choice, expect to be criticized-lectured-disrespected- and spat on like a black man sitting in an all white diner expecting to be fed.

---------- Post added at 08:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:49 PM ----------

Originally posted by Clutch
You've not made any sense. The world is changing? So the f*ck what? Society progresses, that's how these things work, and this is another step in that direction. You're using negatives aspects of society as a petty excuse to deny people the right to sexually be who they are because you're too downright ignorant to comprehend how anyone could have sexual interests that differ to your own.

And yes, by definition, you're a homophobe.


By calling GDP a homophobe you are merely feeding the fires, your getting trolled hard and its hilarious.

The world hasnt been progressing much imo, if anything i think society is heading in the opposite direction.

Gay people have absolutely nothing to do with that, but it don't matter, because you see in the end its yolo regardless.
03-07-2013, 02:10 AM #219
GDP
"Child please..." - C. Johnson
@ Keomo:

Looking back at the quotes on your post, I forgot something Clutch Hunterr had said. "Replace Tom Cruise with Kate Upton"? WTF?! Who does that?! *smGDh*

In the immortal/triffling words of Chad Johnson, "Psh. Child, please..."
03-07-2013, 10:20 AM #220
Gay marriage is a civil rights issue, it's quite straight forward. I called GDP an antagonist as that's exactly what he is. He's disregarding logic in favour of petty insults and mind-numbing rants.

He probably is a troll, so hopefully a mod can come in and deal with him shortly. If not, I'll just ignore him.

Also yeah, society probably is going backwards in many respects, but not socially. Socially things are progressing as they always have done.

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03-07-2013, 04:01 PM #221
.James
Who’s Jim Erased?
'Sexuality is a life choice'

Sorry WHAT? Has it ever occurred to you that people hate themselves because of their sexuality? That some even commit suicide because of it? Tell me Keomo, could you turn around and DECIDE that you want to be gay? You don't 'choose' your sexuality, It's something you're born with. Why would you 'choose' the harder option in life where you have to put up with ignorant and hateful comments? It's complete and utter nonsense.
03-07-2013, 07:49 PM #222
Keomo
Can’t trickshot me!
Originally posted by Clutch
Gay marriage is a civil rights issue, it's quite straight forward. I called GDP an antagonist as that's exactly what he is. He's disregarding logic in favour of petty insults and mind-numbing rants.

He probably is a troll, so hopefully a mod can come in and deal with him shortly. If not, I'll just ignore him.

Also yeah, society probably is going backwards in many respects, but not socially. Socially things are progressing as they always have done.


"Society probably is going backwards in many respects, but not socially" - Lmao its getting worse to interact with people because of the bullshit we have going on with the internet, most people arent even real with each other anymore, and the definition of a friend has dramatically changed due to things like facebook. We are not going forward socially, we have issues like differences in appearance and livelihood that prevent us from living our lifes normally, our goals and likings make us different naturally, but with us are born problems, how we handle those problems are up to us as individuals, which is why homosexuality is NOT a FUCKING civil rights issue, if a gay dude decides he wants to have relations with another man then thats his problem, you cannot have a silly double standard like "Wahhh im gay- i like having relations with other guys like myself yet i dont want to get criticized about it! Like wtf? Of course your going to get criticized, its considered as an abnormality to even BE gay, and for a long time- even though plenty of them were roaming the earth, people of black skin were also considered as an abnormality, and were even enslaved for it. Do you see what im trying to say here? Im saying that gay people are not being condemned to a point where it can be a civil rights issue, you take your choices with you to the grave. Be prepared to defend what you are, like it or not.

He might be trolling, but at least he has solid reasoning that you as choosing to ignore due to you not being able to slip past the cunning remarks and responses he gave out, GDP is probably kidding about their viewpoints and is only trying to rouse you, dont take it so personally, we are after all just debating yes? I'm saying that gay people are defending their rights and lives with honor and dignity despite being considered different from modern society, but then... modern society does a lot of different shit from itself and others in which it needs to start critizing itself more actively, common norms are posionous, and as human beings we need to have an open mind, but that does not include changing our sexuality or radically changing the food we eat/the way we sleep. Some people want to be so different they do all of these things just to make a statement, i can say that being gay is NOT cool, and its becoming some sort of trend. I for one am not homophobic, but you must understand that as a male i will do any and everything i can do to avoid contact with a super fabulous gay male, so as his gayness will not rub off on me- criticized me as you will that is the unorthodox and undisputed truth i give you as a self determined hetero since the age of 3.

Originally posted by .James View Post
'Sexuality is a life choice'

Sorry WHAT? Has it ever occurred to you that people hate themselves because of their sexuality? That some even commit suicide because of it? Tell me Keomo, could you turn around and DECIDE that you want to be gay? You don't 'choose' your sexuality, It's something you're born with. Why would you 'choose' the harder option in life where you have to put up with ignorant and hateful comments? It's complete and utter nonsense.


Dude you just supported my claim about it being a life choice. Like i dont even really have to respond to this, thats what happens with something your born with indecisively or even decisively. The world doesnt have to change to suit your needs, or even care- it will keep on turning until it gets destroyed, and the world- or even the universe... or even the gods themselves still won't give a fuck.

LOL suicide? I could also make an argument about how people kill themselves when getting trolled into oblivion *Facebook* or even losing their signifigant other, suicide occurs when someone is pushed into a corner and cannot find a way out. Usually happening when in danger "Seppuku" or when in extreme stress or mental fragmentation, or when pushed to the edge physically and/or emotionally. Extreme embrassment can also cause one to kill to redeem the shame that came with their living.

Who the hell cares if a few gay people commit suicide or feel threatened? This is shit people have to go through everyday as human beings, you can be orange, yellow, straight, curved, or even husky and still feel like killing yourself. No one is immune from emotion, not even robots. We are all born with problems, it is our job to find a solution as human beings. Don't put homosexuals or whatever other sexual reference in a category or box, we are all the same in the end, and we all feel- think, and do as required.

Your argument is invalid.

And a lil bit of icing "Has it ever occurred to you that people hate themselves because of their sexuality?" Has it ever occurred to you that people hate themselves because of their race? Or even the size of their lower region?

Decide? Well i thought about it for a while, but eventually i came to the conclusion that having a woman of reputable status was more beneficial for me in the end. After all, i do get offspring.

"Why would you 'choose' the harder option in life where you have to put up with ignorant and hateful comments?"

Yolo.

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03-07-2013, 08:02 PM #223
Gandalf
Gandalf the Orange
Although I know you don't literally mean "who cares" as I am pretty certain you think that suicide for ANY reason is a waste.
I think your point is spot on... life is tough... no matter what race, creed, or background a person is from...
We all are dealing with the day to day bullsh*t of the world...


Originally posted by Keomo View Post
Who the hell cares if a few gay people commit suicide or feel threatened? This is shit people have to go through everyday as human beings, you can be orange, yellow, straight, curved, or even husky and still feel like killing yourself. No one is immune from emotion, not even robots. We are all born with problems, it is our job to find a solution as human beings. Don't put homosexuals or whatever other sexual reference in a category or box, we are all the same in the end, and we all feel- think, and do as required.



Oh... and I am heterosexual... and I don't feel the need to condemn, nor condone the sexuality of others. What 2 consenting (keyword) adults do behind closed doors, is their right. But I also don't need it crammed down my throat either, nor do I think special provisions need to be made.

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03-07-2013, 08:10 PM #224
Originally posted by Keomo View Post
The Internet has made you more gay? Do tell.


Yeah, fun fact apparently fapping to traps isn't gay though according to a scientific study.

Originally posted by Keomo View Post
Also err, there have been gay people since the dawn of time, this shit isnt new my manz. More open to sexuality? Hey, whatever rafts your shaft LMAO ahem.


I know, I'm just saying that within the last 100 years society has become more accepting and removed punishments aimed at ostracising homosexuals. Hopefully by the time we hit 2100 you'll be able to masturbate to what you want within reason and fuck what you want within reason without having to worry about some crusty old man in parliament tell you it's obscene to do so or that he doesn't like it so it should be illegal.

Personally this whole sexuality debate isn't much of a debate worth having I don't even know what people are arguing about.

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03-07-2013, 08:16 PM #225
.James
Who’s Jim Erased?
How is my argument invalid? You were trying to say that sexuality is a 'LIFE CHOICE' and I proved how it wasn't. In this instance, comparing it to other life issues is irrelevant. We're talking about sexuality here.
03-07-2013, 09:19 PM #226
Keomo
Can’t trickshot me!
Originally posted by Gandalf1969 View Post
Although I know you don't literally mean "who cares" as I am pretty certain you think that suicide for ANY reason is a waste.
I think your point is spot on... life is tough... no matter what race, creed, or background a person is from...
We all are dealing with the day to day bullsh*t of the world...


Pretty much.


Originally posted by Gandalf1969 View Post
Oh... and I am heterosexual... and I don't feel the need to condemn, nor condone the sexuality of others. What 2 consenting (keyword) adults do behind closed doors, is their right. But I also don't need it crammed down my throat either, nor do I think special provisions need to be made.


Pretty much and same here.

Originally posted by Madison
Yeah, fun fact apparently fapping to traps isn't gay though according to a scientific study.


Sounds sexy. Also sounds delicious rofl you fap to traps? LMAO dieing. Would you also happen to fap to tramps as well? Gotta be careful, those kinds of people are becoming more and more crafty, i make sure i take about 5 looks at every woman i come across. Also, women have softer skin then men etc.



Originally posted by Madison
I know, I'm just saying that within the last 100 years society has become more accepting and removed punishments aimed at ostracising homosexuals.


I hope all you gay dudes out there got what this guy said, yes there were very strict punishments for your kind out there, please dont forget that. Being gay was Taboo in those days, and its still a bit taboo in certain places as well, and what GDP was trying to say was that its also taboo in certain religions (Most if im not mistaken?) namely christianity. Rofl a gay christian? Logic? Then there's gay muslims... i know for a FACT thats forbidden for them. Yet they still do it and treat it like its cool openly... I think its a silly form of rebellion, but thats their problem its becoming more lenient and yes gay people do have culture like everyone else- meaning that they are proud like anyone else just as well.

Originally posted by Madison
Hopefully by the time we hit 2100 you'll be able to masturbate to what you want within reason and fuck what you want within reason without having to worry about some crusty old man in parliament tell you it's obscene to do so or that he doesn't like it so it should be illegal.


Lmao funny thing is people already are, but thats what everyone wants and you can be as strange as you want without anyone worrying about it huh....? Its not the crusty old men you need to worry about, but the women and men who are into all these strange sexual novels and stories and what not. Gotta understand people have fantasies, and they will go to great lengths to get them fulfilled, the same applies to me. I have dreams, i want to see a good portion *list* of them get fulfilled by a certain date in a timely and obedient manner.

Originally posted by Madison
Personally this whole sexuality debate isn't much of a debate worth having I don't even know what people are arguing about.


Ikr. Probably some people who are taking things too literally, or got made fun of in RL. Still its always interesting to talk about. People will always make an assumption on what you like, and sexual preference ties into that strongly.

Originally posted by .James View Post
How is my argument invalid? You were trying to say that sexuality is a 'LIFE CHOICE' and I proved how it wasn't. In this instance, comparing it to other life issues is irrelevant. We're talking about sexuality here.


How did you prove me wrong again? You see more evidence of sexuality taking a large portion of someone's ideals/beliefs or even way of acting. It affects them as a person and sexuality obviously seems worth defending/representing which automatically makes it a life choice, what part of that do you not understand? Evidence plox, I'm sure many in here can present evidence supporting my claim, and defacing yours.

Btw if it isnt a life choice- im throwing you dice here- then what is it? Sexuality can and will always be a WAY OF LIFE. So your going to tell me you can read a book on how to be a straight man and then suddenly convert from being Bisexual to being hetero? It don't add up and that doesnt work. Your saying people don't choose it, yet im telling you i had chosen that shit since the age of 3, and you have an impressive amount of men who were previously straight, that CHOSE based on preference to be gay. Yes there may be some people like that, but your not supporting your argument in a strong enough way to make it seem that way.

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