Post: The end of premium.
07-29-2012, 09:35 PM #1
Rokiz
Death is hereditary
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Let's be honest, this is the end of premium. Now that Outsider's team of money makers has added this new Elite, no one has any chance of new stuff being posted in here. I sometimes post from time to time when I have decent enough things to post but unless you BUY Elite your not worth anything and also wont be getting anything from premium. Elite is just the new premium for Outsider and his highly trained money makers to earn more money. They were slacking back on donations and not reaching the goal these days but Hey, they added another premium and named it different and added some new things to make it look better. Premium is worth as much as normal membership and I donated to help the site. I've watched the site change over the years and I've been here and been as loyal as I could. Now, I would think don't premiums deserve Elite? They shaped the site into what it is today and what do we get? Thanks for being premium but we need more money. Let's watch it, no shit will be posted on here, slowly but surely it will just fall behind, no one will care any more and soon they will just remove it all together. I don't think this is very fair at all but we may as well say goodbye all together to premium now. We aren't premium any more, were just membership. Strange how we didn't get a say in if we wanted it or not. Could of just upgraded premium. Nah we just want more money.

Fare-well premium I don't want you to go at all but hey, it wasn't us who changed it.

-Jamie Aka Purp

Disclaimed: You don't like I said? Tough it's the internet I can say what I want. This is also my opinion if you want to express yours your more then welcome to, and if you want to argue, go ahead just don't expect me to give a fuck.


Edit: Alright well seems as the staff members don't want me to tell you that they did indeed change the poll.

It was:

Elite
Is
Fucking
Stupid

And they changed it to:

Elite
Is
Fucking
AWESOME

Also I will keep editing this back to the way I wanted to post it. There's nothing in the rules that state I can't do what I did.
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07-30-2012, 10:14 PM #20
Mr Grumpy
< ^ > < ^ >
You could of made premium subscription based, and for those who donated previously they would stay premium for life. I know some sites have done this so why couldn't you? Elite is just for the new users mainly, it doesn't appeal to most premium members (which was the majority of NGU) You could have at least warned us about elite but you just do things without informing your users. And by also cussing users you make yourself look even more unprofessional which makes us think again why should we help out an admin who just cusses their users in an unprofessional matter. For me I'm opting out in Elite (I won't donate to become elite) because it's just stupid how you just leave us premium users without informing us that Elite was coming out. Maybe if you'd informed us beforehand, then it wouldn't be such a fuss, and anger the premium users.
07-30-2012, 10:24 PM #21
Originally posted by Outsider
Telling me what I can and can not do. Get the fuck on


I'm not telling you what you can and can't do? I was simply saying that calling a member a Dumbass is very unprofessional and makes the site look bad if the admins are calling other users names.

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Originally posted by Outsider
If it's in the right context


But the user was not being dumb?

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07-30-2012, 10:29 PM #22
Originally posted by Outsider
He certainly was being dumb.


No? You clearly were "hatin" on our opinions. This was clear by the groans you gave away and could also be displayed through your act of changing the poll question, closing it, and changing the numbers (again, a little unprofessional).
07-30-2012, 10:30 PM #23
Implicit
Elite Gamer
Originally posted by Outsider
You see though, that is not the case. In no way were we trying to push premium's down the ladder, it was simply time for a change. Premium was made back in 2008, with little-to-no plan other than what was stated to be given (and you all received what you purchased). Most sites now have subscriptions, and this system is so much better than the unprofessional 'Awesome faceonator' system. All-in-all, I can understand where everyone is coming from, but you had premium for years and years for a mere 10$. You got your money's worth.

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Dumbass; I didn't hate either, I expressed my opinion.

That´s the way that the Admin express himself, at least show some respect and use a propect vocabulary because I´m not insulting you and Yes you´re , Why did you change the Poll from Elite is Fckn Stupid to Elite is fckn Awesome and You´re groaning every post that is not agree with "Elite"
07-30-2012, 10:35 PM #24
SionTHFCroberts
Are you high?
Originally posted by Outsider
Premium membership was always listed as a DONATION. We never promised anything other than what you have. The premium section back in it's prime did offer great stuff, and it slowly faded. There wasn't much that could have been done. When this community started, the gaming scene was so much different. Things change. We have given the premium's now a chance to try out Elite for $1.99. We don't want to be just 'another site' though; NGU has always been different and unique, ever since I made it (yes, I'm the owner). I had an inactivity spell after my Youtube channel was banned and the whole scene has changed. It is unfortunate how things went down for premiums, I guess (even though you damn well received enough for your $10 donation, regardless). Hope all turns out well, and you can still enjoy the forums Smile


I disagree with the first statement I have put in bold. Yes it was a donation, i get that. But i really do think alot more could of been added to kinda say thank you for donating.

The Staff had plenty of time to think about elite and all the perks that have been advertised if you sign up there, but i dont get the feeling there has been any time and thought invested into premium, like i keep saying if it was'nt for us this site would be half the size of what it is today. Think of it like football.

You are the Players and we are the fans. We pay to watch football every week and out money is used to pay you wages. If it was not for the fans, the fooballer would be unemployed. Its kinda the same here.

If we didnt pay out 10$ you would have no money to advertise or even run the server.

With the 1.99$ thing is stupid imo People like me who have payed and seen no updated content on the premium forums are not going to trust you with more of our money. You said -

"The premium section back in it's prime did offer great stuff, and it slowly faded."

Thats what I, and im guessing alot of other premiums are thinking about Elite. At the moment its new, its fresh but as time goes by it will fade and no one will give a shit about it anymore, people will stop paying the subscription. Thats how i see it.

I am taking nothing away from you for making this site, never in a million years could i think about running a forum of this size. You have done trully a wonderfull job on here, But NGU is a buisness and you need to remember the customer is always right, and in this case us premiums are the customers.
07-30-2012, 10:37 PM #25
Implicit
Elite Gamer
Originally posted by Outsider
Calling someone a dumbass is not acting unprofessiona

Yes, It is, It makes you look that You have no education and respect
07-30-2012, 10:41 PM #26
i--DanieL_
Edgier than an octagon
Originally posted by Outsider
it slowly faded. There wasn't much that could have been done. When this community started, the gaming scene was so much different. Things change. We have given the premium's now a chance to try out Elite for $1.99.


How is the creation of a new usergroup going to make-up for the fade in the gaming scene? Also, why couldn't you try to revive the current premium forums instead of creating a new one, you could've just put all this new content generated by the GS in the current premium forum.

I don't think it's fair to say to people who donated that "they've had enough" because without them this forum wouldn't exist and to ask more of them is really unfair. This isn't actually something that I'm personally effected by as Needa donated for me, but it still makes me mad.

This Elite thing has split up the users and just makes people pissed off, I guarantee staff will know all about it when the honeymoon period wears off and elite dies down, which is inevitably going to happen, lets be honest.
07-30-2012, 10:49 PM #27
Elk
Lithium.
Originally posted by FourzerotwoFAILS View Post
I'm not telling you what you can and can't do? I was simply saying that calling a member a Dumbass is very unprofessional and makes the site look bad if the admins are calling other users names.

But if the admins are sticking up for there website and calling a user a name (which might I add does not make the site look unprofessional) is fair enough.
Now, do you honestly think this thread looks professional in general? Okay NGU has it's up's and down's but that isn't the admins fault.

Okay right now Outsider has the right to be pissed. Do you wanna know why? Because he takes the time and effort out of his day to think of NGU and it's community and what he thinks best.
What does he get in return? "Elite sucks", "Making us pay for it when we're already premium". Now that is unprofessional.


Outsider, I'm sorry some people (not all) are so fucking ungrateful. You try to make them happy, look what you get in return. If you don't like it, fair enough.

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07-30-2012, 10:51 PM #28
Implicit
Elite Gamer
Originally posted by Outsider
I respect your opinion. There is a monthly Elite purchase, just incase you do believe it will die out. Either way, we'll be pushing forward with our plans to keep the content fresh and you can either decide to upgrade or not; it doesn't affect your forum access in the least.

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:lol: .

Thanks for showing me How you really are, I spent a lot of time helping people in the Ps3 section and choose NGU over all other sites because NGU was really cool and we could discuss everything We want but now I see , All You want is more money, I know you´re gonna say shit about paying the servers blah blah but You do win money.

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