(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); The thread that was the shining light of the last two debating sections(ugh, really?) that was God vs Fact has been trashed or something(ugh, again) so this thread is here to take the place of that one.

Some extremely basic terminology...

Theist: believes in a god(s).
Deist: believes in a god(s) that created the universe but subsequently abandoned it and/or believes that reason and observation of the natural world are sufficient to determine the existence of god(s).
Atheist: does not believe in a god(s).
Agnostic: does not claim to know if a god exists or believes that such knowledge cannot be known, depending on the definition. Typically when I personally use this label I'm referring to the former.
Gnostic: claims to know one way or the other if a god exists.

There are some more but that's the basics down. I'm an agnostic atheist. What are you and why?

Edit: Thanks to whichever mod/admin butchered the thread's title and poll. The poll now makes no sense whatsoever.

Man shut the fuck up this is the reason why world is fucked up.... ....people

Not taking sides, but I have trouble thinking that a post with no threat or significance on the internet is the reason the world is "fucked up".

Science has done many great things like give evidence for the validity of the Bible

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We may define it as a denomination but it is not Christianity

I've always considered myself deist. And it's funny how the most "religious" people don't know what that is. I even had to explain it to a catholic priest and he kept thinking it was the same as atheist so I literally just walked away while he was calling me and telling me I was following the wrong path... SMH

I look at god the same as a dictator.

We can't be gay, have sex before marrage even though he got Mary pregnant so she can't obviously be a virgin anymore, we can't eat meat, we have to go to his house everyday, we can't curse, a priest can't be married, etc.. or you will be sent automatically to hell. But on the other hand, your path was already written. SO WE ARE GOING THERE EITHER WAY!!! :O

God is supposed to mean love and peace yet religion screwed it all up and the only reason why about 98.9999859426445874995344% of "religious" people follow their religion is FEAR of going to hell. But wait!!! You arn't supposed to question it either way!!?? :O This is why most people, like myself, don't care about it about it anymore. Live life the way you want to live and how others should live it period. If you pay too much attention to the fairy tails, you will just waste your time wondering.

Honestly, The devil is probably the closest to what the bible says about god

DON'T CLICK THE SPOILER IF YOUR EASILY BUTTHURT....

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The point is no one will ever no if there is truly a god or not. If there is one then great, if there isn't then you will never know anyways.

Sure, because the world was so much better before we showed up. Seriously, how on earth do you expect society to progress if we don't challenge one-another on our views and opinions? Things like theocracies happen if you don't have vocal opposition.



Right, so the assumption is that god doesn't exist until someone can prove otherwise. That's the rational approach to anything.

The rational thing to do is choose one side or another and find out if you are right. Like if someone was lying or not, the first thing to think wouldn't be that they are guilty, but to analyze it with the information that you know. One main reason I believe there is a god is because space would of had to be created in someway, a way that can't be explained. I do believe in evolution and the big bang theory, so do not think of me as a believer that is blinded by lies. I do not believe that god(s) suddenly made people appear, but I believe that the start had to have some explanation that we don't know, so one of my first things to rationalize is there is a god(s) because we do not have evidence to fully back-up whether or not there is a god, which is why it is about half-and-half when it comes to whether you believe or not. I am agnostic-catholic, I believe that there is a god, but I am not sure whether or not I can fully believe based on evidence we are given today. When I started to think more about whether or not god exists, I thought about death, and that I feared it more than anything, but later thinking more about it, you wouldn't know what was happening when you were dead, so it is just sleeping forever in some sort of way. If there is an after-life, than that is great. Anyways, that was my opinion on religion.

Sure, but the rationally default side is rejection until evidence is presented.



The big bang theory itself explains the origins of the universe. If that isn't enough for you, then "I don't know" is a better answer than "I don't know, therefore..."



You're wrong here. Due to the burden of proof, the rational person should not be 50/50 about belief at this point. You've not demonstrated that your god exists - all you've done is point at something you don't understand and said "hey, maybe this sentient being did it." That is not rational. Basically, it's the god of the gaps argument.

i think we all should just find out when we die lol? no one really knows and i believe in god but just got wait till i die but im still going to believe. an if there isnt a god who created the universe an if it was the big bang then who created that see this can go on forever someone made something?