(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); The thread that was the shining light of the last two debating sections(ugh, really?) that was God vs Fact has been trashed or something(ugh, again) so this thread is here to take the place of that one.

Some extremely basic terminology...

Theist: believes in a god(s).
Deist: believes in a god(s) that created the universe but subsequently abandoned it and/or believes that reason and observation of the natural world are sufficient to determine the existence of god(s).
Atheist: does not believe in a god(s).
Agnostic: does not claim to know if a god exists or believes that such knowledge cannot be known, depending on the definition. Typically when I personally use this label I'm referring to the former.
Gnostic: claims to know one way or the other if a god exists.

There are some more but that's the basics down. I'm an agnostic atheist. What are you and why?

Edit: Thanks to whichever mod/admin butchered the thread's title and poll. The poll now makes no sense whatsoever.

There is a burden of proof for the existence of God from philosophers who are not religious and to people who are, it is just in your heart what you want to believe and then ignore everything that doesnt fit within your beliefs. Ive lived as someone who didnt believe in God and did the research myself there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus is God.

Theist

Atheists,
Saving humanity 1 ignorant fool at a time by using superior intellect:p

Oh come now, that's just intellectual dishonesty. Have a word with yourself lad.

The best thing for everybody to do is question everything and try to find your own answers instead of falling for a belief system. Most ppl bash religion with science, but science itself (mainstream) is another religion that bashes all other religions. It is another belief system that's parroted without question by the masses,taught in schools and repeated by the "experts",and now it is the "norm". I'm not bashing science altogether, but mainstream scientists usually tell the masses what they've been authorized to tell. If they begin speaking out against the norm, the funding stops. So we can't just accept what "they" tell us without question.

Mormons would call themselves a denomination but they are not either. Catholicism is a works based religion meaning you have to do certain requirements to be saved which goes against what the Bible states. So they call themselves Christians but are not

The problem with this sort of thinking (apathy / live and let live) is that the religious are actively trying to form laws based upon their religious beliefs - this means that the more skeptical and rational among us must push back, and debating is a good means of doing that.


Beyond that, it's just a nice intellectual exercise.





Word of mouth is not evidence, it's anecdotal.





Science is not a belief system - it is a method for discovering the truth about the universe we reside in.


Science does not bash religion. If it's incompatible then that tells you all you should need to know about religion.


Science is never questioned! Ha! Ha ha ha ha ha. Ha. Ahem. Science is evidence based, meaning you can go and conduct any experiment you like and the result should be scientifically accurate. If not, submit a paper to a scientific journal and 'mainstream' science will accept that.


"Mainstream scientists usually tell the masses what they've been authorized to tell. If they begin speaking out against the norm, the funding stops." Back this up with evidence, because all it sounds like to me is a conspiracy theory.

Word of mouth so that means you discount what each archeologist has discovered to prove the existence of God. You are picking and choosing what you want to believe that isnt scientifically accurate. Science fails society they say one thing and then change their minds later whereas Jesus has never failed society because we have all failed Jesus. You cant argue that there isnt facts because science has shown proof of Jesus it is whether or not you want to believe and you cant admit that its your heart because you dont want to man up an take accountability for the things you do.

Source(s).



It's called being intellectually honest. It's a positive thing.

The rest of your post was full of baseless claims that mean nothing to me as an atheist until you can sway me into your line of thinking, so I didn't bother quoting it.