Post: God vs Science
02-05-2013, 10:02 PM #1
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); The thread that was the shining light of the last two debating sections(ugh, really?) that was God vs Fact has been trashed or something(ugh, again) so this thread is here to take the place of that one.

Some extremely basic terminology...

Theist: believes in a god(s).
Deist: believes in a god(s) that created the universe but subsequently abandoned it and/or believes that reason and observation of the natural world are sufficient to determine the existence of god(s).
Atheist: does not believe in a god(s).
Agnostic: does not claim to know if a god exists or believes that such knowledge cannot be known, depending on the definition. Typically when I personally use this label I'm referring to the former.
Gnostic: claims to know one way or the other if a god exists.

There are some more but that's the basics down. I'm an agnostic atheist. What are you and why?

Edit: Thanks to whichever mod/admin butchered the thread's title and poll. The poll now makes no sense whatsoever.
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07-06-2013, 02:55 AM #254
dapreacher23
Climbing up the ladder
Originally posted by Satan
I think he is the type that wants to ban everything and that we should have no rights, because then we can't do anything, because then the so called Evil wouldn't be possible.

He's probably pointing at abortion and gay marriage and says it is evil because it is wrong in the bible and blames society.

And when he comes to crimes as Killing, violence, the Christian boy forgets that most Animal (If not all) kills and do harm to each other against their own race and other sometimes.
And Humans are also Animals DON'T FORGET THAT.

So he is looking at society as evil. Society? No matter what kind of Society you will see crimes. I would say, it is the people not society. Because society can't be evil, if good and evil exist you know what I mean. It is the peoples actions and way of living he sees as evil.


People like him are a danger to freedom, as he thinks I guess! That we have to little privacy invading and freedom invading laws! He doesn't Wish Individuality, I Guess he wants a Radical Christian Society. He should move to Israel or something and convert to Jewish. Lol.

Religion is cancer to our society. ( Sorry if I offend anyone as it is a touchy topic, but this is the debate section! )


No we have rights incase you forgot. apparently you havent read the Bible to see what rights we have and the freedoms GOd has given us. DO your research before you come in here spitting things you dont even know.
07-06-2013, 03:09 AM #255
Originally posted by Clutch
The thread that was the shining light of the last two debating sections(ugh, really?) that was God vs Fact has been trashed or something(ugh, again) so this thread is here to take the place of that one.

Some extremely basic terminology...

Theist: believes in a god(s).
Deist: believes in a god(s) that created the universe but subsequently abandoned it and/or believes that reason and observation of the natural world are sufficient to determine the existence of god(s).
Atheist: does not believe in a god(s).
Agnostic: does not claim to know if a god exists or believes that such knowledge cannot be known, depending on the definition. Typically when I personally use this label I'm referring to the former.
Gnostic: claims to know one way or the other if a god exists.

There are some more but that's the basics down. I'm an agnostic atheist. What are you and why?

not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone but as for myself i am atheist, but i have heard that some people believe that BC, there was a small police like battalion that created the false rules about hell & etc., which more people added stuff to. But if you look at it right, all religions are based off of each other, some with different beliefs but still just based off one another.
07-07-2013, 04:12 AM #256
dapreacher23
Climbing up the ladder
Originally posted by Satan
Haha you also got homophobia. D= Thx to your bible.

In Satan I trust, hail Satan! Hail Freedom and individuality! Hail that you are your own god!


Yes I can prove you dont because its called invisible unicorn which means its invisible. Actually there is no mention of homophobia in the Bible you need to check your facts bro
07-08-2013, 08:08 AM #257
I have read a good percentage of the posts in this thread, none of the arguments are nearly as good as these.

07-08-2013, 10:59 AM #258
Originally posted by Macdaddy4sure View Post
I have read a good percentage of the posts in this thread, none of the arguments are nearly as good as these.



Yeah, I'd rather not waste two hours of my time listening to WLC ramble. Care to sum up?
07-08-2013, 11:23 PM #259
juddylovespizza
I'VE GOT JUNGLE FEVER
Originally posted by Clutch
Yeah, I'd rather not waste two hours of my time listening to WLC ramble. Care to sum up?


I think I watched this debate last year, basically Mr Craig misrepresents what it is to be an atheist and forms an argument that it is a belief and thus requires more faith. Then goes on to assert therefore God exists and Christianity is the true religion. Obviously mixed in with aspects of Pascal's Wager and the teleological argument. Nothing intelligent, but of course all wrapped up in an articulate and persuasive speech.

How are you anyway? Long time no see! Did the original thread get deleted as I remember it being so much larger and also I have lost my last 500 or so post I had there haha!
07-09-2013, 10:52 AM #260
Originally posted by juddylovespizza View Post
I think I watched this debate last year, basically Mr Craig misrepresents what it is to be an atheist and forms an argument that it is a belief and thus requires more faith. Then goes on to assert therefore God exists and Christianity is the true religion. Obviously mixed in with aspects of Pascal's Wager and the teleological argument. Nothing intelligent, but of course all wrapped up in an articulate and persuasive speech.

How are you anyway? Long time no see! Did the original thread get deleted as I remember it being so much larger and also I have lost my last 500 or so post I had there haha!


That sounds just like William Lane Craig. No surprise then.

Yeah, it was dumped along with everything else a while ago for a few days when the admin (for what, the second or third time?) decided not to have an individual debating section. Then it came back again. And here we are!

P.S. I did have a more accurate thread title than this one, but I guess a moderator thought people wouldn't be interested otherwise. The poll was also a lot more interesting. Sigh.
07-09-2013, 09:51 PM #261
Angioy
Mario!
An Atheist does not believe in a god or science , they basically have no clue.

I'm a man of science Smile
07-09-2013, 10:14 PM #262
Dman93
Crawl to your cross
Originally posted by angioy View Post
An Atheist does not believe in a god or science , they basically have no clue.

I'm a man of science Smile


An atheist does not believe in science? Science is the reason for most people being atheists. You have no clue.

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