Post: My exact take on religion
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03-25-2013, 01:23 AM
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Gambler
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The Bible is full of contradictions and many of the teaching seem more like fables than actual historic events. Jesus brings up a bunch of questions as well. The virgin birth seems a bit out there to me. Why do the stories go from birth and skip to age 30? I do not believe God and Christ were the same. That is possible of course but not realistic. I think Jesus may have lived and taught many of the things quoted in the bible however I think he was just another man not the son of god, the savior or god in the trinity. The people and kings I guess felt threaten and had him killed. That’s what I think in regards to Jesus. God is almighty so why would he need to create a human son from a virgin have him wander around earth for 30 years and then spread the gospel and be crucified for the worlds sins? Plus the integrity of the bible is questionable since it was written by man and has been translated many times over thousands of years. History also shows how religion has been used by man to control the people. I think the bible is a good book full of good lessons to guide us to live better lives.
Adam and Eve and the 6000 year old Earth.
God made man but I really doubt he just made one man Adam and then pulled a rib from him and made Eve. The whole Apple story is a fable as well. Good lesson. Carbon dating is proof the world is older.
I believe there is good and evil in the world. I believe our soul is hard wired to know the difference. That thought you get in your head “This doesn’t seem right” when you are about to do something immoral. Or “This is the right thing to do” when you are about to help someone out. God gives us free will to make a decision either we ignore the feeling(voice in our head) and do the bad deed or we listen to it and do the right thing. Its called our conscience.
I believe in what goes around comes around. If you are a bad person bad things will come back to you and vise versa. Some seemingly good people seem to go through hell and never have good luck. That I don’t understand. God has a reason though. I believe we all have souls separate from our bodies. When our body dies our soul lives on. Heaven to me is a place where you are extremely happy for eternity. Hell is the opposite. I don’t know what gets you to either place. I think living a good life and having a good heart is key. Ruthless self centered evil people probably go to hell. I strongly believe in the do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Another problem I have with Christians is there belief that all people who do not believe in Christ can not go to heaven simply because you have to enter heaven through Jesus by believing in him. So all no Christian people are going to hell. So all the good people in the world that are non Christians are going to hell. God is much bigger than that.
Judging other people.
Thou shalt not judge. How many self proclaimed Christians do this? You know the difference between a Baptist and a Methodist? A Methodist will speak to you in the liquor store and the Baptist will not!
I don’t believe in judging other people. Most people that judge others have not looked in the mirror. They may be very surprised if they do. As humans we have too many of our own issues to work out rather than looking down on other peoples issues and actions.
Now some things like robbery, rape and murder are different stories. I do look down on and Judge people who commit crimes such as these. I also look down on hypocrites.
EDIT: I don't believe in any current religion.
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04-03-2013, 06:25 PM
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Jake
One Man Army
Originally posted by Clutch
What exactly about any of the mainstream religious beliefs is worthy of respect?
You respect the fact that the majority of people in the society we live in believe in religion, and understand that if you were born in certain parts of the world you would probably believe in them too.
04-03-2013, 06:29 PM
#39
Originally posted by Jake
You respect the fact that the majority of people in the society we live in believe in religion, and understand that if you were born in certain parts of the world you would probably believe in them too.
That doesn't change whether it's worthy of respect or not.
To clarify, I respect the people just like I respect any other, however the beliefs themselves are not in any way worthy of respect to me. If anything all your post does is undermine their beliefs, not explain to me why they should be respected.
04-03-2013, 06:30 PM
#40
Jake
One Man Army
Originally posted by Clutch
That doesn't change whether it's worth of respect or not.
To clarify, I respect the people just like I respect any other, however the beliefs themselves are not in any way worthy of respect to me. If anything all your post does is undermine their beliefs, not explain to me why they should be respected.
To clarify, I respect the people just like I respect any other, however the beliefs themselves are not in any way worthy of respect to me. If anything all your post does is undermine their beliefs, not explain to me why they should be respected.
Do you believe in democracy?
04-03-2013, 06:35 PM
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04-03-2013, 06:44 PM
#42
Jake
One Man Army
Originally posted by Clutch
(I think) I know where you're going with this.
I said I don't respect them, not that I'd censor them.
Everyone deserves to have their voice heard, even if in my opinion some people spout complete and utter bollocks, knowingly or otherwise.
I said I don't respect them, not that I'd censor them.
Everyone deserves to have their voice heard, even if in my opinion some people spout complete and utter bollocks, knowingly or otherwise.
If you don't respect them, does that mean you're intending on disrespecting them?
04-03-2013, 06:59 PM
#43
Tricksterrr
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I don't really believe of a giant man that lives in the clouds but I will admit there are so many things we don't understand that suggests a creator, like the Fibonacci sequence. Although I don't believe in religion and many of its teachings I do admit I could be wrong, I'm not one of these Ignorant ****s that believes only there way is right.
04-03-2013, 07:04 PM
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04-03-2013, 07:21 PM
#45
boss10000
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my personal belief is just be a good person cause its the nice thing, treat others how you want to be treated etc.
also just asking but, if Adam and Eve had two sons, Abraham and Izaak(?) and one killed the other and was then cursed by god for killing, then that means we are descended from a cursed being? also how did man then continue on? unless sex with their own mother?
With science it's about saying what could it be?
With most things in life you can always just keep asking why? everything is possible untill disproven.
e.g. why is 2+2=4 ? why?
The human brain longs for a reason an explanation for stuff. we give out ideas and theory's and until they disproven, its about moving forward and learning more. one thing man loves to do is ask why? we don't like just because! we want the details.
also just asking but, if Adam and Eve had two sons, Abraham and Izaak(?) and one killed the other and was then cursed by god for killing, then that means we are descended from a cursed being? also how did man then continue on? unless sex with their own mother?
With science it's about saying what could it be?
With most things in life you can always just keep asking why? everything is possible untill disproven.
e.g. why is 2+2=4 ? why?
The human brain longs for a reason an explanation for stuff. we give out ideas and theory's and until they disproven, its about moving forward and learning more. one thing man loves to do is ask why? we don't like just because! we want the details.
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