Post: My exact take on religion
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03-25-2013, 01:23 AM
#1
Gambler
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The Bible is full of contradictions and many of the teaching seem more like fables than actual historic events. Jesus brings up a bunch of questions as well. The virgin birth seems a bit out there to me. Why do the stories go from birth and skip to age 30? I do not believe God and Christ were the same. That is possible of course but not realistic. I think Jesus may have lived and taught many of the things quoted in the bible however I think he was just another man not the son of god, the savior or god in the trinity. The people and kings I guess felt threaten and had him killed. That’s what I think in regards to Jesus. God is almighty so why would he need to create a human son from a virgin have him wander around earth for 30 years and then spread the gospel and be crucified for the worlds sins? Plus the integrity of the bible is questionable since it was written by man and has been translated many times over thousands of years. History also shows how religion has been used by man to control the people. I think the bible is a good book full of good lessons to guide us to live better lives.
Adam and Eve and the 6000 year old Earth.
God made man but I really doubt he just made one man Adam and then pulled a rib from him and made Eve. The whole Apple story is a fable as well. Good lesson. Carbon dating is proof the world is older.
I believe there is good and evil in the world. I believe our soul is hard wired to know the difference. That thought you get in your head “This doesn’t seem right” when you are about to do something immoral. Or “This is the right thing to do” when you are about to help someone out. God gives us free will to make a decision either we ignore the feeling(voice in our head) and do the bad deed or we listen to it and do the right thing. Its called our conscience.
I believe in what goes around comes around. If you are a bad person bad things will come back to you and vise versa. Some seemingly good people seem to go through hell and never have good luck. That I don’t understand. God has a reason though. I believe we all have souls separate from our bodies. When our body dies our soul lives on. Heaven to me is a place where you are extremely happy for eternity. Hell is the opposite. I don’t know what gets you to either place. I think living a good life and having a good heart is key. Ruthless self centered evil people probably go to hell. I strongly believe in the do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Another problem I have with Christians is there belief that all people who do not believe in Christ can not go to heaven simply because you have to enter heaven through Jesus by believing in him. So all no Christian people are going to hell. So all the good people in the world that are non Christians are going to hell. God is much bigger than that.
Judging other people.
Thou shalt not judge. How many self proclaimed Christians do this? You know the difference between a Baptist and a Methodist? A Methodist will speak to you in the liquor store and the Baptist will not!
I don’t believe in judging other people. Most people that judge others have not looked in the mirror. They may be very surprised if they do. As humans we have too many of our own issues to work out rather than looking down on other peoples issues and actions.
Now some things like robbery, rape and murder are different stories. I do look down on and Judge people who commit crimes such as these. I also look down on hypocrites.
EDIT: I don't believe in any current religion.
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04-06-2013, 02:37 PM
#66
Redadski
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Originally posted by Under
ok so. To start with, please spell properly, and reread what you're posting. The content is bad enough, without me having to try and unscramble, misspelt jibberish.
To the point. Everything is here right now because the big bang happened. How exactly it happened i dont know. No one does, and it is unlikely that we ever will. However, this does not mean i need to make something up as an answer. I can use your own argument against you, something isnt just there, so how can God just be there? what made god. Your answer will be that god is eternal, infinite. But its just not a good enough answer. I could say it was a giant snowman, not god who did it. and you could not prove me wrong. Nor could i prove myself right.
This is the exact problem with religion. its wrong, everyone knows it is, but until it can be proven wrong, there are always the nuts and the trolls who will say otherwise...
And actually no, the universe wasnt a miraculous event, in fact it was always going to happen. If you have a 0.00000000000000000000001% chance of something happening, but you have an infinite time scale in which it can happen. Then it will, at some point in that time, it has to happen. Which, suprise surprise, it did.
To the point. Everything is here right now because the big bang happened. How exactly it happened i dont know. No one does, and it is unlikely that we ever will. However, this does not mean i need to make something up as an answer. I can use your own argument against you, something isnt just there, so how can God just be there? what made god. Your answer will be that god is eternal, infinite. But its just not a good enough answer. I could say it was a giant snowman, not god who did it. and you could not prove me wrong. Nor could i prove myself right.
This is the exact problem with religion. its wrong, everyone knows it is, but until it can be proven wrong, there are always the nuts and the trolls who will say otherwise...
And actually no, the universe wasnt a miraculous event, in fact it was always going to happen. If you have a 0.00000000000000000000001% chance of something happening, but you have an infinite time scale in which it can happen. Then it will, at some point in that time, it has to happen. Which, suprise surprise, it did.
Everything you sad makes no sense to me u sad a whole lot but u didnt say anything.
I get it sum people just dont get it an rather life with there believe in something that just doenst make sense.
An my proper spelling well every idoit on this forum can see that english is not my first language.
Read the Quran to find al your awnsers.
To keep speculating isnt worth suffering in hellfire.
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Originally posted by xFLAMeHD
72 virgins if you blow yourself up?
Quran says Muhammad had sex with 9year old girl (prophet, divorce)
And
I don't want to start a religion war if this is getting srs I am sorry then lets go in PM instead. Then you can explain me if I am wrong and such.
Quran says Muhammad had sex with 9year old girl (prophet, divorce)
And
I don't want to start a religion war if this is getting srs I am sorry then lets go in PM instead. Then you can explain me if I am wrong and such.
Sure im ready an stay here its good im not nor will any good muslim every be i swear to you.
I will give my awnser the minute i have had good read at what ur posted lol.
And btw in my logical mind people KILL people.
And every last 1 of them who were killed will get vengeance at the day of judgement.
04-06-2013, 10:24 PM
#67
Originally posted by Jake
Wow... yes, I will deny it. This is how I worded the sentence: 'mainstream religious beliefs', i.e. not 'mainstream religious persons'. Clearly the beliefs they hold are the subject matter. You muppet.
04-07-2013, 04:14 PM
#68
Jake
One Man Army
Originally posted by Clutch
Wow... yes, I will deny it. This is how I worded the sentence: 'mainstream religious beliefs', i.e. not 'mainstream religious persons'. Clearly the beliefs they hold are the subject matter. You muppet.
Some of the users who prance about in this debate forum (mainly yourself) patronisingly complain about new users coming in who don't 'take it seriously' and the General Discussion being for 'kids' and yet it took you a few days to formulate a response where you just result to petty insults.
The point is, the user you were responding to said 'I do respect other people's opinions and beliefs' and you said 'there is nothing about them that deserves respect'. If that isn't suggesting you're going to disrespect the person in question I don't know what would be.
04-07-2013, 06:02 PM
#69
Keomo
Can’t trickshot me!
Originally posted by Clutch
Wow... yes, I will deny it. This is how I worded the sentence: 'mainstream religious beliefs', i.e. not 'mainstream religious persons'. Clearly the beliefs they hold are the subject matter.
Let me just make contradictions all day and then try to cover it up with shit, then ignore what i said and continue to coat said statements with more genuinely polished shit.
Have a nice day.
To be honest talking about religion with some people is nothing but a feeding ground for trolls, as much as i'd love to discuss theories with people all day about the world and what not, i will not spark any arguments or religious anti movements against me and what i believe in (Or don't believe in for that matter) too many people are too immature to legitimately discuss any religious topic honestly.
"Ill respect your feelings bro, whoops, hurt your feelings, doesn't matter tho, your feelings don't deserve respect anyway"
Technically though, respect for other religions is questionable, since war can be easily sparked on something that can be completely different in context and essence to another belief, which is why i do not giddily discuss religion with people, its "Instant Warfare 2, Open a Can Edition".
04-07-2013, 06:13 PM
#70
Originally posted by Jake
Some of the users who prance about in this debate forum (mainly yourself) patronisingly complain about new users coming in who don't 'take it seriously' and the General Discussion being for 'kids' and yet it took you a few days to formulate a response where you just result to petty insults.
The point is, the user you were responding to said 'I do respect other people's opinions and beliefs' and you said 'there is nothing about them that deserves respect'. If that isn't suggesting you're going to disrespect the person in question I don't know what would be.
The point is, the user you were responding to said 'I do respect other people's opinions and beliefs' and you said 'there is nothing about them that deserves respect'. If that isn't suggesting you're going to disrespect the person in question I don't know what would be.
I clearly clarified that I meant the beliefs. Read the damn sentence. The word is right there. I didn't say 'them', I said 'beliefs'. Done. Is this really so difficult to comprehend from a grammatical perspective? Either you're reading it wrong or I wrote it wrong and still don't see it in hindsight.
The 'you muppet' bit was meant to be a humorous end to this argument as I assumed you'd get it by now. You do not. If I intended to insult you, I've a wide variety of words better suited to the task.
Sometimes I don't feel like debating. I tend to take around an hour a day replying to stuff and other things take priority, whether that's suggesting PC builds to people who are about to spend some serious money or responding to the royalist circlejerk on Reddit. I'll get around to replying when I can - that of all things is not worthy of a complaint.
04-08-2013, 05:03 PM
#71
dapreacher23
Climbing up the ladder
Originally posted by Under
oh ok, i have blind faith? im not the one who makes up answers simply because i cant understand something. religion is lazy, for people who cant be bothered to search for an answer. and yes, you are ignorant. i am far more inclined to believe something which has thousands of fossils, reports etc. written by many different scientists, than some 'fairytale' someone made up years ago to try and cmfort the idiots in society. So yes, you are ignorant. and no im not, im logical. Im sorry for believing something which actually has a valid explanation and evidence to accompany it.
Thats right you believe in something that has been proven false might I remind you it is a theory. Science has failed all of us whereas Jesus hasnt failed us and hasnt been proven false, even the so called scientists you believe in speak of Jesus! You are now speaking in ignorance you cant explain anything you believe in try darwinism in macroevolution oh and if you remember also Darwin took the beliefs of evolution from other scientists an just popularized them they werent even his own ideas.
01-14-2014, 06:58 AM
#73
CHAOZ
Banned
science theory : idea that is suggested or presented as possibly true but that is not known or proven to be true
- science can't prove shit to me about "gods".
- sorry I'm not a follower who believes "every study to be true".
religion separates us all. Just give thanks to whoever and whatever is giving us life , and allowing it to prosper.
- science can't prove shit to me about "gods".
- sorry I'm not a follower who believes "every study to be true".
religion separates us all. Just give thanks to whoever and whatever is giving us life , and allowing it to prosper.
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