Post: My exact take on religion
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03-25-2013, 01:23 AM
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Gambler
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The Bible is full of contradictions and many of the teaching seem more like fables than actual historic events. Jesus brings up a bunch of questions as well. The virgin birth seems a bit out there to me. Why do the stories go from birth and skip to age 30? I do not believe God and Christ were the same. That is possible of course but not realistic. I think Jesus may have lived and taught many of the things quoted in the bible however I think he was just another man not the son of god, the savior or god in the trinity. The people and kings I guess felt threaten and had him killed. That’s what I think in regards to Jesus. God is almighty so why would he need to create a human son from a virgin have him wander around earth for 30 years and then spread the gospel and be crucified for the worlds sins? Plus the integrity of the bible is questionable since it was written by man and has been translated many times over thousands of years. History also shows how religion has been used by man to control the people. I think the bible is a good book full of good lessons to guide us to live better lives.
Adam and Eve and the 6000 year old Earth.
God made man but I really doubt he just made one man Adam and then pulled a rib from him and made Eve. The whole Apple story is a fable as well. Good lesson. Carbon dating is proof the world is older.
I believe there is good and evil in the world. I believe our soul is hard wired to know the difference. That thought you get in your head “This doesn’t seem right” when you are about to do something immoral. Or “This is the right thing to do” when you are about to help someone out. God gives us free will to make a decision either we ignore the feeling(voice in our head) and do the bad deed or we listen to it and do the right thing. Its called our conscience.
I believe in what goes around comes around. If you are a bad person bad things will come back to you and vise versa. Some seemingly good people seem to go through hell and never have good luck. That I don’t understand. God has a reason though. I believe we all have souls separate from our bodies. When our body dies our soul lives on. Heaven to me is a place where you are extremely happy for eternity. Hell is the opposite. I don’t know what gets you to either place. I think living a good life and having a good heart is key. Ruthless self centered evil people probably go to hell. I strongly believe in the do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Another problem I have with Christians is there belief that all people who do not believe in Christ can not go to heaven simply because you have to enter heaven through Jesus by believing in him. So all no Christian people are going to hell. So all the good people in the world that are non Christians are going to hell. God is much bigger than that.
Judging other people.
Thou shalt not judge. How many self proclaimed Christians do this? You know the difference between a Baptist and a Methodist? A Methodist will speak to you in the liquor store and the Baptist will not!
I don’t believe in judging other people. Most people that judge others have not looked in the mirror. They may be very surprised if they do. As humans we have too many of our own issues to work out rather than looking down on other peoples issues and actions.
Now some things like robbery, rape and murder are different stories. I do look down on and Judge people who commit crimes such as these. I also look down on hypocrites.
EDIT: I don't believe in any current religion.
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03-29-2013, 04:59 PM
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Gambler
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Originally posted by xXcaliburXx539
Whenever I start to question if there is a god, all I do is think about the big bang. I believe in the Big Bang Theory, but what created that compacted matter? How did the bang occur? How did the planets become so dense if dirt, dust and rocks formed together by swirling around? What are the chances of all the neccesaties in life being put here on just this planet, water, nutrients. I believe in Evolution, that does not make me secular, I believe there is a higher-being. I don't think that the higher-being would be in the form of a human-being because, just think about that. Anyways, that is me putting my opinion out.
That's exactly what I believe in. The world works to weird, but in my psychology class. Our brains are programmed to accept things, so our surroundings make sense.
03-29-2013, 05:03 PM
#12
Dman93
Crawl to your cross
Originally posted by Gambler
I believe there is good and evil in the world. I believe our soul is hard wired to know the difference. That thought you get in your head “This doesn’t seem right” when you are about to do something immoral.
This is not hard wired into anyone, this has come from years of needing to fit into communities and need to survive and enforced with laws nowadays. You think when man was first around about 100,000 years ago we cared about this?
Originally posted by Gambler
God made man
To say this you would first need to prove he existed, then you would need to ask who made him.
Originally posted by Gambler
God is almighty so why would he need to create a human son from a virgin have him wander around earth for 30 years and then spread the gospel and be crucified for the worlds sins?
Another good questing is why would he send him just to a remote part of the middle east. Makes no sense.
Originally posted by Gambler
Its called our conscience.
I believe in what goes around comes around. If you are a bad person bad things will come back to you and vise versa. Some seemingly good people seem to go through hell and never have good luck.
I believe in what goes around comes around. If you are a bad person bad things will come back to you and vise versa. Some seemingly good people seem to go through hell and never have good luck.
See this is stupid. You said above you believe god created man, but yet he will punish them for there ways even though he made them that way. In other words Fulke Greville- "Created sick — Commanded to be well."
Originally posted by Gambler
Now some things like robbery, rape and murder are different stories. I do look down on and Judge people who commit crimes such as these. I also look down on hypocrites.
Well according to the bible these crimes are forgivable, the only thing that is unforgivable in the bible is the rejection of the holy trinity.
03-29-2013, 05:06 PM
#13
Gambler
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Originally posted by Dman93
This is not hard wired into anyone, this has come from years of needing to fit into communities and need to survive and enforced with laws nowadays. You think when man was first around about 100,000 years ago we cared about this?
To say this you would first need to prove he existed, then you would need to ask who made him.
Another good questing is why would he send him just to a remote part of the middle east. Makes no sense.
See this is stupid. You said above you believe god created man, but yet he will punish them for there ways even though he made them that way. In other words Fulke Greville- "Created sick — Commanded to be well."
Well according to the bible these crimes are forgivable, the only thing that is unforgivable in the bible is the rejection of the holy trinity.
To say this you would first need to prove he existed, then you would need to ask who made him.
Another good questing is why would he send him just to a remote part of the middle east. Makes no sense.
See this is stupid. You said above you believe god created man, but yet he will punish them for there ways even though he made them that way. In other words Fulke Greville- "Created sick — Commanded to be well."
Well according to the bible these crimes are forgivable, the only thing that is unforgivable in the bible is the rejection of the holy trinity.
I do not believe in the christian god whatsoever. For that matter, I don't believe in any current religion. I should have put that in the thread.
03-29-2013, 05:11 PM
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Gambler
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Originally posted by Dman93
Well that is hard to believe as you believe in many of the teachings of modern religions.
But that to me is just common sense. You should no when you've done wrong, and no the difference between right and wrong. Also, rape, murder. Those are all horrible things. If your wife cheats on her, do you forgive her? Me personally, hell no. And rape and murder, those are 10x worse. Once again, just common sense to me.
03-29-2013, 05:17 PM
#16
Dman93
Crawl to your cross
Originally posted by Gambler
But that to me is just common sense. You should no when you've done wrong, and no the difference between right and wrong. Also, rape, murder. Those are all horrible things. If your wife cheats on her, do you forgive her? Me personally, hell no. And rape and murder, those are 10x worse. Once again, just common sense to me.
It's common sense to you now, yes. But it comes from years of community. Just like God, no human is born believing in god, it was made up by man to explain things we could not explain. So if you where one of the first human, no knowledge of god, or these punishments he would inflict if you killed someone. Would it be common sense then to not kill, or rape someone, no it wouldn't, proof that it is a man taught thing and not common sense. It's only common sense to you now because you where taught that way. But psychopath who can't tell the difference between bad and good, will they be punished?
03-29-2013, 05:20 PM
#17
Gambler
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Originally posted by Dman93
It's common sense to you now, yes. But it comes from years of community. Just like God, no human is born believing in god, it was made up by man to explain things we could not explain. So if you where one of the first human, no knowledge of god, or these punishments he would inflict if you killed someone. Would it be common sense then to not kill, or rape someone, no it wouldn't, proof that it is a man taught thing and not common sense. It's only common sense to you now because you where taught that way. But psychopath who can't tell the difference between bad and good, will they be punished?
We as a society take punishments into our own hands. And yes, nobody is taught to believe in God. But as the years go on, and when you have a family of your own, and your life is going good. You think, we had to have been created. Things in this world work to weird to be just "chance". It's hard for me to explain :/ lol
03-29-2013, 05:30 PM
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xScreamo!
Trading Kids For Angel Dust
Hi my name is God. I get jealous as fuck when people praise other people because I created them. I also know their past, present, and future so I don't know why I'm jealous because I know all this. I will never tell you who created me because I'm a fucking boss bitch. I can fly and shit, fuck wit me. My nigga Jesus is a ride or die. I don't get why I made him die for everyone's sins but I did it anyway to seem like I was doing important shit. If this would of never happened, all of you would be in hell right now. So pretty much everyone who was born and died before Jesus is in hell...burning...for eternity...because I can do that. You wanna know why I created humans? Well because dinosaurs were dumb and boring and just kept eating each other so I was like fuck it, I need something real and entertaining. So I made Adman & Eve. But before all this I made Satan and all them other angels. Yeah I knew Satan was gonna go against me cuz you know....I know everything but I was like fuck it and did it anyway. Man I'm one weird as God. Even though me and Jesus loves you, we're gonna still send you to hell. You wanna know why? Because you're not a Christian lololololol. Fuck you and your soul for not believing in my bible and shit. We're real as fuck. I know it's hard to believe since you've never physically seen me....or Jesus...but yeah we're real. You gotta just belieeeeevveee. Proof my ass. I made other species too on different planets. But that's in other galaxies and shit. I don't want you guys to meet them or visit those planets. There just a whole bunch of fail projects. But um, yeah I'm God and I can do whatever, whenever, however, I fucking want to. I created myself. You wanna know how? Well it was all dark and shit and I was like "AH BITCH I'M GOD" Then bam I was created. I also watch over all of you. Especially when you're fapping. Sorry for the small penis's....I was trying to multitask but you know.....you're gonna die anyway and no one will give a shit. All I have to say is, you guys should hope you die before I do some rude ass shit to the world. Everyone is gonna go extinct and shit. And I will create a new breed of human like creatures. But for now, you guys are pretty entertaining. I guess I can go a couple years with you humans. Even though some of you are dumb as fuck and deserve to die early.
03-29-2013, 05:37 PM
#19
Dman93
Crawl to your cross
Originally posted by Gambler
You think, we had to have been created. Things in this world work to weird to be just "chance". It's hard for me to explain
See I could believe this if we didn't have galaxies coming on collision corses with our own. We have a sun which will burn out like many others and more than likely absorbe the earth. Just like many other stars which collapse. The universe isn't perfect. Nor is out planet.
Originally posted by Gambler
and when you have a family of your own, and your life is going good. You think, we had to have been created.
See, I won't believe ever no matter what. But that sentence doesn't really prove anything. It's like saying does a family of seal think we had to be created, no and the only reason we do is because we where lucky enough through natural selection and evolution to grow a brain large enough and intelligent enough to form languages and 'make' these thoughts for ourselves.
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