Post: Is chivalry truly dead?
04-06-2013, 09:56 PM #1
ULG Poison
You talkin to me?
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Well I consider myself decently chivalrous. I'm a kind person, I attempt to be the best I can be, I help those in need, I would never hurt a female(in self defence I would hold her down until she calms down), I'm always cautious with the words I use around others, I would never start a fight and I would never throw the first punch.

I've look at all the people I know and it feels like 1 out of 10 people I know have some sort of chivalry in them.

I know some people are going to say that nowadays women want to feel equal. I'm not saying that is wrong. For me I would treat my significant other equal but I would still put them on a pedestal.

Basically I'm asking you guys to look at yourself and ask yourself Do you have any amount of chivalry in you?

EDIT:
Dammit I forgot to add the poll.
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04-06-2013, 11:23 PM #11
Keomo
Can’t trickshot me!
Originally posted by Meatwad View Post
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Clutch's thinking, in fact I think very similarly. He is in fact very right by saying, "treating women better than men perpetuates the myth that all women are weak and that all men are strong, and that in turn creates a whole array of problems." We should treat everyone equally, regardless of gender, race, or beliefs. That's just the way it should be and as time progresses, that's the way it will be. I treat everyone the way I would want to be treated, I follow the Golden Rule, as should everyone else. And you get the feeling the Clutch doesn't like girls? I mean come on, just because he wants to treat everyone EQUALLY and you want to put the opposite sex on a pedestal, doesn't mean he doesn't like girls. He wants equality, which is what many feminists want (although to be honest, I'm not a fan of feminists in the first world, but that's another story.) Everyone should be treated equally, it shouldn't matter, but by treating the opposite sex differently you are in fact being kind of a sexist. So all in all, treat others the way you want to be treated and don't treat other people differently.


I used to think like that too tbh, but i dont treat the opposite sex differently at all lol, but of course im going to act slightly differently around women, since they dont operate like men- usually, ok that might be mistaken for a stereotype but this is just from my own worldly experience.

I had trouble questioning whether being respectful towards women would make them mad at me or whatever, but eventually i realized that treating everyone with the same equal basic respect is what you generally need to seek. Im not one of those pansies who treat women better then men or vice versa, i dont operate like that, since if i was a women i would take a serious offense to that.

Im not about to roll out the red carpet for a woman just because she isnt a man lmao. Besides, would you rather have a woman being treated with respect, or receiving beatings for not doing what shes told?
04-06-2013, 11:27 PM #12
Meatwad
Meatman
Originally posted by Keomo View Post
I used to think like that too tbh, but i dont treat the opposite sex differently at all lol, but of course im going to act slightly differently around women, since they dont operate like men- usually, ok that might be mistaken for a stereotype but this is just from my own worldly experience.

I had trouble questioning whether being respectful towards women would make them mad at me or whatever, but eventually i releized that treating everyone with the same equal basic respect is what you generally need to seek. Im not one of those pansies who treat women better then men or vice versa, i dont operate like that, since if i was a women i would take a serious offense to that.

Im not about to roll out the red carpet for a woman just because she isnt a man lmao. Besides, would you rather have a woman being treated with respect, or receiving beatings for not doing what shes told?

Oh my gosh... You just contradicted yourself within the first two sentences. By acting differently in front of women, you are very much treating them differently, one way or another. And I very much like how you responded to my argument for equality by saying would you rather them be treated with respect or receiving beatings. That concern has nothing to do with the claim I brought up, of course I want to treat women with respect, but I do that for everyone until that individual does something for me to lose such respect.
04-06-2013, 11:36 PM #13
Keomo
Can’t trickshot me!
Originally posted by Meatwad View Post
Oh my gosh... You just contradicted yourself within the first two sentences. By acting differently in front of women, you are very much treating them differently, one way or another. And I very much like how you responded to my argument for equality by saying would you rather them be treated with respect or receiving beatings. That concern has nothing to do with the claim I brought up, of course I want to treat women with respect, but I do that for everyone until that individual does something for me to lose such respect.


Because im heterosexual? So you expect me to treat women the same way i treat men? Im not attracted to men LMAO, what you are asking of me is impossible, and that is a weak argument, take a look at what your stating.

I was asking you a question, since you seem to think women are treated with inequality when they are obviously getting the respect they deserve. So... what are your views on equality? Respect or Beatings? Your choice, we can do this either way really.

And yes, you will not do anything worth randomly disrespecting or ignoring someone unless they get on your bad graces, but we must understand that a lot of women get flak just for being women. There are either two ways to respond to the existence of something you are aware of, positively or negatively, there is no other way to deal with the issue.

So, i choose the former. Case closed.

Also, err when i meant "act differently" i meant flirtatious... (And the women i talk to are in turn sometimes the same towards me, actually had a few members of the same sex do the same.) i don't know how big of a deal that is seeing as that is my sexual preference but okay!
04-06-2013, 11:49 PM #14
Meatwad
Meatman
Originally posted by Keomo View Post
Because im heterosexual? So you expect me to treat women the same way i treat men? Im not attracted to men LMAO, what you are asking of me is impossible, and that is a weak argument, take a look at what your stating.

I was asking you a question, since you seem to think women are treated with inequality when they are obviously getting the respect they deserve. So... what are your views on equality? Respect or Beatings? Your choice, we can do this either way really.

And yes, you will not do anything worth randomly disrespecting or ignoring someone unless they get on your bad graces, but we must understand that a lot of women get flak just for being women. There are either two ways to respond to the existence of something you are aware of, positively or negatively, there is no other way to deal with the issue.

So, i choose the former. Case closed.

Also, err when i meant "act differently" i meant flirtatious... (And the women i talk to are in turn sometimes the same towards me, actually had a few members of the same sex do the same.) i don't know how big of a deal that is seeing as that is my sexual preference but okay!

Wow, you really didn't get anything I said, just wow. I said nothing about your sexuality, I suggested treating everyone equally, nor did I say you had to like your sex as well. What you said is you treat women differently because you are attracted to them, that is exactly what I said was wrong! You just don't get it and I'm not talking about flirting. Nor did I suggest that women are not treated equally. In many aspects they are treated very equally, or at least in my experiences but I'm sure there are counter examples. For example my mother is the bread winner in my family. And what is up with you and the respect or beatings? This had NOTHING to do with equality, clearly you're doing that whole Fox News attack method where when you have no legitimate counterargument, you just blabber nonsense about random shit. And I believe I already answered for you, respect, treat everyone the way you want to be treated. Never hit anyone unless the situation demands it (and that doesn't mean beating your wife to get her to listen.) And yes the case is closed, you're clearly wrong and have no idea what you are talking about. You much rather treat the opposite sex differently when that sex very much wants the opposite, we want equality.
04-06-2013, 11:53 PM #15
Cmd-X
It's been awhile.
Originally posted by ULG

Basically I'm asking you guys to look at yourself and ask yourself Do you have any amount of chivalry in you?


Yeah, I'd have to say I do.
04-07-2013, 12:33 AM #16
SnD_Boosters
Who’s Jim Erased?
Originally posted by Meatwad View Post
Wow, you really didn't get anything I said, just wow. I said nothing about your sexuality, I suggested treating everyone equally, nor did I say you had to like your sex as well. What you said is you treat women differently because you are attracted to them, that is exactly what I said was wrong! You just don't get it and I'm not talking about flirting. Nor did I suggest that women are not treated equally. In many aspects they are treated very equally, or at least in my experiences but I'm sure there are counter examples. For example my mother is the bread winner in my family. And what is up with you and the respect or beatings? This had NOTHING to do with equality.


So do you agree or disagree with chivary?
04-07-2013, 12:44 AM #17
Meatwad
Meatman
Originally posted by Boosters View Post
So do you agree or disagree with chivary?

If you read my first post you would have an answer. I believe in the Golden Rule not chivalry. You shouldn't treat any sex differently.
04-07-2013, 01:17 AM #18
SnD_Boosters
Who’s Jim Erased?
Originally posted by Meatwad View Post
If you read my first post you would have an answer. I believe in the Golden Rule not chivalry. You shouldn't treat any sex differently.


You never explicitly said you didn't. (correct me if I'm wrong).
04-07-2013, 01:30 AM #19
Meatwad
Meatman
Originally posted by Boosters View Post
You never explicitly said you didn't. (correct me if I'm wrong).

Was inferred. I want equality and chivalry really isn't equality. I don't believe it treating others in a positive manner just because they are women, poor, old, or sick. I treat EVERYONE in a positive manner until someone does something to change that. Plus I'm not a knight.

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