(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Sooooo... people living off of the state (and in turn other people). How are we feeling about this?

Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps there's a shortage of jobs, and not just a wealth of lazy citizens?

I've read several accounts of hundreds or even thousands of people applying for menial job positions lately. People are keen to work but they can't if there aren't enough jobs to go around, and with that being the case attempting to cut off welfare at all is downright despicable.

And yet they have iPhones to use while standing in the ques. And there are quite a few shops hiring in my town (which is pretty big) as my friends who haven't even completely High School are getting employed easily. Even if they can't get a job, having an iPhone? REALLY? That's what the taxpayer is paying for? Basically free iPhones for the unemployed. Its just my view on it.

Not that they are scumbags, my uncle is a good person. Let's just say decisions with money coming from welfare and tax refunds aren't his strong suit. I mean if there was no welfare people would be forced to get a job and actually do something with their life. You know?

If there aren't enough jobs to go around (that's the reality of the situation) all this would result in is deaths. As I've already said.



Two things.

First off, you can get iPhones very cheap second hand and you could make the argument that certain jobs require that you have a mobile phone.

Secondly, I got my iPhone whilst on benefits from my father who's employed. Don't make assumptions based on such small information. It's deeply unfair and can result in welfare being unfairly cut and people starving.

But you have people who actually have welfare who starve themselves anyway, so whats the point of giving it to them then?

So that they can buy Iphones and a bunch of other useless shit they dont need?

The numbers are highly falsified. Millions do not starve. Not a single death has been reported in the USA of someone dying due to starvation from the inability to afford food. Other types of deaths from starvation are voluntary, however those are irrelevant as it has nothing to do with welfare.

And millions will not starve if we reduce welfare spending. I think that you think I am suggesting that we reduce welfare altogether, but you are mistaken. What I want to do is - since this is a government program - I would enforce harsh regulations on those who are asking for government assistance. That means, that they must be required to show that they are looking for work, and they must show that they are making an income that is not livable. The money that is saved from this I would like to seen go into education. This is an approach that I am not too fond of, as I believe that we need to take a more "Laissez Faire" approach where there is less government and where government does not distribute money back into the economy, rather have private businesses that are more efficient than government compete in terms of education. However, we have already taken a path that does not work so dealing with what we have, we must make sure that we target the root problem which is education. We are not going to solve this problem by spending enough on welfare, we are going to fix this problem by fixing a broken education system.

I realize that there are people who cannot support themselves, but they cannot not support themselves forever. There won't be an end to those costs. Eventually people are going to have to get off their ass and get a job, and I realize that it is extremely difficult for some people, and to suggest that I won't give them some form of welfare is completely wrong. I am all for them getting a helping hand when they are in need. I would frankly like to see competition for welfare as well, that's right, privatize welfare. I'm all for allowing businesses to give out loans to people so long as it is legal. However, the government does not have the right to take people's money and redistribute it. No one has the right to someone else's money. Things like education aren't a right. If the government got out of the schools and let them compete, schools would be able to offer loans to students. A LOT of these issues are started by the government, not by the people themselves. The government has caused education prices to be so high. The government putting in place the minimum wage is also why so many people might have difficulty finding work too in poorer environments. And I know someone is going to say that is going to say that doing that will cause workers to end up in poverty, which is simply not true since businesses will all be competing to provide better salaries and attract more workers that are capable.

2? Lol I Say 6 Months :3

Six months is too short dude. If they're trying to find a job it may not be too easy in their situation.

yea true ok 1 year tops it couldn't take more than 1 year to find a job unless your like un-educated or don't have a high school diploma :happyguy: