They are being advertised by libertarian candidates, so I would not say that no one wants to take them into consideration.



Who is going to provide that money though? Government? Ha! Can't you see the fact that students don't benefit from pumping money into the education system in the first place? Their rewarded in LIFE if they do well in school. If it was on a private level where schools offered to pay their students I would be all for it, since it's not other people's money that is being spent, rather money that they earned themselves. But having the government paying kids to go to school is ridiculous and wrong. It will cost a huge amount of money for the government to start paying children to go to school, money which we don't have and are borrowing and printing.





I'm not sure I follow. There is no legitimate reason to get good grades? Of course there is, I don't even think I need to explain this. Good grades leads to better jobs in a persons future.

And I still don't know what you mean by being bent on schools competing. The federal government being involved in the education system has shown the quality going down and the prices are going up. I am encouraging competition between schools in terms of private schools. I am saying that school a needs to reduce prices and increase quality so that school b is forced to do the same. This drives down the cost of education and increases quality as the schools compete for the students money. I don't really think that it's that hard to comprehend and saying that it is impossible is just a bit far-fetched. I don't even know where the students come into play here, since they are only the ones who get to decide who gets to go to which school they want to go to. I'm not saying students within the schools competing with other students in another school. That is frivolous and won't tackle the root problem of welfare, education will and allowing schools to compete to become more attractive for students will ensure that the quality of education goes up and prices go down.



You are missing the point though (by the way it sounded like you were implying it so my apologies). The fact is that hiring government workers to go out and make sure people are not cheating the welfare system is just causing MORE to be spent on the welfare system. Creating more taxes from the measly salary that is given out by welfare is not enough to cover these costs and you end up spending more money to ensure that the people are using welfare for the right reasons instead of just allowing them to spend it as they please. We need to fix education and eventually welfare will no longer be required by people. Creating a society where everyone can prosper so long as they try and those that fail willingly failed is the way that we are going. Now it has become obvious that through the pumping of money in the education systems poorer families cannot afford to put their children through university, now that child is no longer able to have a bright future because of the government subsidizing education.

I say no more printing and spending. Cut funding to public schools and abolish the department of education, repeal no child left behind.

So let me get this straight, you are against public schools but are totally for private schools?

You do know that solving problems in public schools is the first solution to a better future right?

I want the government out of the business of controlling the education department. I want them to stop spending money on a broken education system and get out of the business altogether. Allow the schools to give out loans to the students instead of pumping money into the system. I never said I wanted to give money to private schools, that would be very hypocritical.

The numbers are highly falsified. Millions do not starve. Not a single death has been reported in the USA of someone dying due to starvation from the inability to afford food. Other types of deaths from starvation are voluntary, however those are irrelevant as it has nothing to do with welfare. And millions will not starve if we reduce welfare spending.

I realize that there are people who cannot support themselves, but they cannot not support themselves forever.

There won't be an end to those costs. Eventually people are going to have to get off their ass and get a job, and I realize that it is extremely difficult for some people, and to suggest that I won't give them some form of welfare is completely wrong. I am all for them getting a helping hand when they are in need. I would frankly like to see competition for welfare as well, that's right, privatize welfare.

However, the government does not have the right to take people's money and redistribute it. No one has the right to someone else's money.

Things like education aren't a right.

If the government got out of the schools and let them compete, schools would be able to offer loans to students. A LOT of these issues are started by the government, not by the people themselves. The government has caused education prices to be so high.

The government putting in place the minimum wage is also why so many people might have difficulty finding work too in poorer environments. And I know someone is going to say that is going to say that doing that will cause workers to end up in poverty, which is simply not true since businesses will all be competing to provide better salaries and attract more workers that are capable.

i think they should have a couple years on welfare then they should slowly get cut off so they have to actually look for a job

What happens when inevitably people can't find work because there are more people than there are jobs? Do they just starve?

People need to think a little more critically because they start suggesting stuff like this.

Listen, I think It's a good idea, It's great actually. It's not the welfare that is bad. Its the PEOPLE who use it for the WRONG reasons that are making you think the "Welfare" systems are corrupt. I have a friend whose dad is legally blind, He can't work anymore simply because he can't see. So they live in a "low-income" 90-100k house. He gets food stamps and welfare, Which in this place it is being used correctly, but when you have people who are able to work and still seem to sit on their ass and complain while still receiving money from the Government. That's what makes the "welfare" seem like we don't need it. Just my thoughts.