Post: Mass Shootings/Guns
10-02-2015, 04:01 AM #1
NP Carling26
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(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Sadly, mass shootings are a thing in our society. However, far too many people are far too quick to place the blame on the gun, instead of the person responsible. We blame drunk drivers for crashing and killing people, bombers for creating bombs that kill people, and stabbers for stabbing someone...but yet when it comes to guns, we blame the gun and try to ban or restrict them. Today's mass shooting, like every other recent high profile mass shooting, took place in a so called "gun free zone" where it is posted by the owners that guns are not allowed. Here's the problem. CRIMINALS DON'T OBEY THE FUCKING LAW. So by posting up a facility as a gun free zone, all you are doing is making it an extremely easy target for someone planning something nefarious, since most law abiding citizens won't bring a gun into the gfz. Yet, look up at the times where someone with a gun stopped someone else who had opened fire. You don't hear about them, because they never had a chance to become a mass shooting since a good guy with a gun stopped the bad guy with the gun before he could do serious damage. Point and case: Gun control doesn't work, and gun free zones are like big painted targets for mass shooters. Now, I'm not so bad as to say we shouldn't have background checks, but instead of our government trying to institute MORE background checks and other restrictions like standard capacity magazine bans, Modern Sporting Rifle (omg it's a gun but it looks extra scary, lets ban it) etc. why not actually fix and enforce the current laws on the books? The current National Instant Check System should do the job, but being a government handled entity, it has it's failure. Fix that and enforce other laws instead of trying to take away the rights of millions of law abiding gun owners.


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10-02-2015, 04:21 AM #2
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Even if there was a mass gun ban, people who still wanted to go and partake in these mass shootings would still get their hands on guns, and possibly more powerful guns. People who sell guns "under the table" typically have more powerful weapons/illegal weapons, which is why they sell these weapons privately and do not own gun shops and sell these weapons legally. So banning guns would not make the situation go away. I agree it seems like every other case people blame the person who committed the crime but if it was committed with a gun it is somehow the guns fault. Seems like too many people are scared of guns, which imo is a bad thing. Need to teach people instead of fearing the gun, respect it. (directed towards everyone who says "Guns should be illegal")

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10-02-2015, 04:47 AM #3
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Originally posted by NP
Sadly, mass shootings are a thing in our society. However, far too many people are far too quick to place the blame on the gun, instead of the person responsible. We blame drunk drivers for crashing and killing people, bombers for creating bombs that kill people, and stabbers for stabbing someone...but yet when it comes to guns, we blame the gun and try to ban or restrict them. Today's mass shooting, like every other recent high profile mass shooting, took place in a so called "gun free zone" where it is posted by the owners that guns are not allowed. Here's the problem. CRIMINALS DON'T OBEY THE FUCKING LAW. So by posting up a facility as a gun free zone, all you are doing is making it an extremely easy target for someone planning something nefarious, since most law abiding citizens won't bring a gun into the gfz. Yet, look up at the times where someone with a gun stopped someone else who had opened fire. You don't hear about them, because they never had a chance to become a mass shooting since a good guy with a gun stopped the bad guy with the gun before he could do serious damage. Point and case: Gun control doesn't work, and gun free zones are like big painted targets for mass shooters. Now, I'm not so bad as to say we shouldn't have background checks, but instead of our government trying to institute MORE background checks and other restrictions like standard capacity magazine bans, Modern Sporting Rifle (omg it's a gun but it looks extra scary, lets ban it) etc. why not actually fix and enforce the current laws on the books? The current National Instant Check System should do the job, but being a government handled entity, it has it's failure. Fix that and enforce other laws instead of trying to take away the rights of millions of law abiding gun owners.


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I don't understand why people think that making guns illegal makes shootings go away. How's that war on drugs going, oh yea a massive waste of time and money and it wouldn't be any different with guns.

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10-02-2015, 05:56 AM #4
Well it can work, and has worked before. At least here in Australia we have not had a single mass shooting since most guns were banned because of the Port Arthur Massacre, and that was over 10 years ago. I think you need to focus on the people and the guns. Get both of them right and you won't have as many fucking massacres.
10-02-2015, 07:55 AM #5
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Originally posted by 1UP View Post
Can't wait to see Ben trying to stick his dick into this thread.

I don't understand why people think that making guns illegal makes shootings go away. How's that war on drugs going, oh yea a massive waste of time and money and it wouldn't be any different with guns.


Great prediction. I won't say much because you guys are as thick as a pole. Just look at other countries (UK, Germany, Spain, France) and you'll see how this never happens. That's what restricting guns does.

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10-02-2015, 01:31 PM #6
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Originally posted by Ben View Post
Great prediction. I won't say much because you guys are as thick as a pole. Just look at other countries (UK, Germany, Spain, France) and you'll see how this never happens. That's what restricting guns does.


Pretty sure London has teen street gangs that shoot each other?

Yes gun violence never happens ANYWHERE else.

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10-02-2015, 01:43 PM #7
What country is this in?
10-02-2015, 02:29 PM #8
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Pretty sure London has teen street gangs that shoot each other?

Yes gun violence never happens ANYWHERE else.


It really doesn't happen to the extent in other 1st world countries like it does in America. Mass shootings seem to be the common thing in america, happening so frequently compared to any other devolved country. If sandy hook didn't change things I doubt anything will happen.
10-02-2015, 02:34 PM #9
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Originally posted by 1UP View Post
Pretty sure London has teen street gangs that shoot each other?

Yes gun violence never happens ANYWHERE else.


You have street violence anywhere. London/Paris all have street violence, but its very much limited to knives.
10-02-2015, 02:36 PM #10
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Originally posted by Ben View Post
You have street violence anywhere. London/Paris all have street violence, but its very much limited to knives.


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