Post: Mass Shootings/Guns
10-02-2015, 04:01 AM #1
NP Carling26
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(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Sadly, mass shootings are a thing in our society. However, far too many people are far too quick to place the blame on the gun, instead of the person responsible. We blame drunk drivers for crashing and killing people, bombers for creating bombs that kill people, and stabbers for stabbing someone...but yet when it comes to guns, we blame the gun and try to ban or restrict them. Today's mass shooting, like every other recent high profile mass shooting, took place in a so called "gun free zone" where it is posted by the owners that guns are not allowed. Here's the problem. CRIMINALS DON'T OBEY THE FUCKING LAW. So by posting up a facility as a gun free zone, all you are doing is making it an extremely easy target for someone planning something nefarious, since most law abiding citizens won't bring a gun into the gfz. Yet, look up at the times where someone with a gun stopped someone else who had opened fire. You don't hear about them, because they never had a chance to become a mass shooting since a good guy with a gun stopped the bad guy with the gun before he could do serious damage. Point and case: Gun control doesn't work, and gun free zones are like big painted targets for mass shooters. Now, I'm not so bad as to say we shouldn't have background checks, but instead of our government trying to institute MORE background checks and other restrictions like standard capacity magazine bans, Modern Sporting Rifle (omg it's a gun but it looks extra scary, lets ban it) etc. why not actually fix and enforce the current laws on the books? The current National Instant Check System should do the job, but being a government handled entity, it has it's failure. Fix that and enforce other laws instead of trying to take away the rights of millions of law abiding gun owners.


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10-03-2015, 03:51 PM #47
Toke
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Originally posted by Octolus View Post
Any statistics or research documents proving so?

There are more people that get killed with a shot gun, than defend them self. Just by looking at the news, and assuming really.


the cdc did a study but i cant find it since obama didnt like the findings

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10-03-2015, 03:54 PM #48
FR0STBYTE
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Originally posted by Octolus View Post
I am not worried about anything happening here, we have Police and Military. We don't need to take the law in our own hands here Winky Winky


Haha if you feel comfortable with your police who don't even have guns and your military, good on you. But just remember the victims of Hurricane Katrina, LA riots, and stuff like that, thought the same thing you do.

And by the way, you totally avoided everything that I said.

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10-03-2015, 03:59 PM #49
FR0STBYTE
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Originally posted by Dr
the cdc did a study but i cant find it since obama didnt like the findings


Basically what Toke is explaining, if there are statistics that prove the government is wrong, you usually will not find them publicly.
10-03-2015, 04:11 PM #50
Toke
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Originally posted by FR0STBYTE View Post
Basically what Toke is explaining, if there are statistics that prove the government is wrong, you usually will not find them publicly.


thats because the findings would hurt his anti gun democratic policies

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10-03-2015, 04:13 PM #51
FR0STBYTE
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Originally posted by Dr
thats because the findings would hurt his anti gun democratic policies


This is true. Very true.
10-03-2015, 06:46 PM #52
Octolus
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Originally posted by FR0STBYTE View Post
Haha if you feel comfortable with your police who don't even have guns and your military, good on you. But just remember the victims of Hurricane Katrina, LA riots, and stuff like that, thought the same thing you do.

And by the way, you totally avoided everything that I said.


Guess we don't have that retarded people here then. Our police wear guns now due terrorism, do some research.
10-03-2015, 07:00 PM #53
Ajax Blue
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Originally posted by Ben View Post
Great prediction. I won't say much because you guys are as thick as a pole. Just look at other countries (UK, Germany, Spain, France) and you'll see how this never happens. That's what restricting guns does.


Pretty much, even arguments like Chicago You must login or register to view this content.. Gun-rights enthusiasts wouldn't bother to fact check themselves that most gang-related gun crimes in Illinois use imported guns from states with weaker gun laws. Sure, it's "unstoppable" but as long as something exist, a stray example will fall through the cracks.

It's a dumb reason to start calling for gun bans though.
10-03-2015, 07:04 PM #54
Ajax Blue
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Originally posted by EYE
The USA gun law is so wrong. I mean in the sense its fine because you need a license to buy a gun. But over here (UK) we only sell rifles/shotguns ( farmers guns) you rarely see gun crime.

USA it must be very easy to gain a machine gun and simply walk into the local store/school/church and blow everyone away... but its now hard for Obama to retract any guns etc...


It's not that easy, one problem happens to be the ATF is way too small, FOID card and background checks are horribly unreliable for the 21st century. It's like the systems are stuck in the 1970s.
10-03-2015, 10:09 PM #55
FR0STBYTE
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Originally posted by Octolus View Post
Guess we don't have that retarded people here then. Our police wear guns now due terrorism, do some research.


Wow great argument! When you know you are wrong so you use the "retarded people" argument. And what a shocker, even the police realized they were better off with guns!

And by the way, you still avoided the other part of the post.

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