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04-30-2014, 09:03 PM
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01-13-2015, 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by hristo1026
This is why I never use ABS even in Time Trials.
And that gets you a rep boost from me.
I do see that you run true no assist, that is IMO the only way to go. The quality of your post has gone up, we might not agree on certain things but your earning something valuable.
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01-13-2015, 07:06 PM
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I agree with Cargo on the Camber issue at GTP is beating a dead horse. This is why Im not jumped in the debate all stealth a bunch of times. Id like to see more push for Blind testing as I believe those who ignore the test done already and who wont do blind testing are becoming more obvious and their confirmation bias becoming more obvious, it needs to be focused on IMO.
I see it as go on and use it if you can, and don't worry about those frustrated unable to figure out how to get an advantage with it. I just keep on going, doing what Im doing and only have issues with those who try to tell me different.
The crowd has successfully deflected the Blind Test inquiries and IMO Dodged a bullet.
The Cambers broken Crew still willingly chasing their tails
I see it as go on and use it if you can, and don't worry about those frustrated unable to figure out how to get an advantage with it. I just keep on going, doing what Im doing and only have issues with those who try to tell me different.
The crowd has successfully deflected the Blind Test inquiries and IMO Dodged a bullet.
The Cambers broken Crew still willingly chasing their tails
01-14-2015, 07:05 PM
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The Plot Thickens
What Johnnypenso is failing to see is 2 part.
First Part
Looking at the data we see a performance curve. This curve starts at Zero Camber and performance is increased as camber is increased it peaks around -1.5 deg then curves back down and around -2.5deg camber the performance on the downward slope matches zero camber as it falls. -2.5deg is still faster than Zero.......
This indicates that anything above zero and below -2.5deg camber is showing improved lap times compared to zero camber.
The Second Part is the Tune & High importance on the Diff
While the spring rates and ARB wil play a role in where the camber sweet spot is in this situation the diff is more important. The differential is tuned for zero to no camber and is set up to be perfect when the left to right grip balance has zero camber, whan we add camber we are changing the left to right cornering grip balance giving more grip to our outside tire and this allows us to increase the tightness of the diff to put down more power.
The tighter diff will let us take the higher cornering speeds with camber and carrying the speed into the straight as the tighter diff and more grip with camber allows us to put down more power exiting the corners.
If the front and rear were given a setting tuned to it and not simply equal to the other side, the benefits would be greater, including if the rest of the suspension was returned to take advantage of camber the car may be even faster.
Third, there is an additional factor of drivers being much more used to driving with no camber, that introducing camber makes the cars handle unnatural to them and this hump will take a few hours to get used to, I see it like going from a DS3 to a Wheel.
Originally posted by Johnnypenso
I am curious about how you guys might explain some of the data that seems to conflict, at least to me.
0/0 and 3/3 have near identical lap times:
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And yet 3/3 is faster in every corner but one and a higher average cornering speed:
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Ignoring the stupidity in the camber thread in the general forum, there have been similar results from testing. Lap times end up equal but cornering speeds with camber were always higher.
0/0 and 3/3 have near identical lap times:
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And yet 3/3 is faster in every corner but one and a higher average cornering speed:
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Ignoring the stupidity in the camber thread in the general forum, there have been similar results from testing. Lap times end up equal but cornering speeds with camber were always higher.
What Johnnypenso is failing to see is 2 part.
First Part
Looking at the data we see a performance curve. This curve starts at Zero Camber and performance is increased as camber is increased it peaks around -1.5 deg then curves back down and around -2.5deg camber the performance on the downward slope matches zero camber as it falls. -2.5deg is still faster than Zero.......
This indicates that anything above zero and below -2.5deg camber is showing improved lap times compared to zero camber.
The Second Part is the Tune & High importance on the Diff
While the spring rates and ARB wil play a role in where the camber sweet spot is in this situation the diff is more important. The differential is tuned for zero to no camber and is set up to be perfect when the left to right grip balance has zero camber, whan we add camber we are changing the left to right cornering grip balance giving more grip to our outside tire and this allows us to increase the tightness of the diff to put down more power.
The tighter diff will let us take the higher cornering speeds with camber and carrying the speed into the straight as the tighter diff and more grip with camber allows us to put down more power exiting the corners.
If the front and rear were given a setting tuned to it and not simply equal to the other side, the benefits would be greater, including if the rest of the suspension was returned to take advantage of camber the car may be even faster.
Third, there is an additional factor of drivers being much more used to driving with no camber, that introducing camber makes the cars handle unnatural to them and this hump will take a few hours to get used to, I see it like going from a DS3 to a Wheel.
01-15-2015, 06:47 AM
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To further illustrate what Im talking about I decided to make my own chart with the GTP Test data
Here is the GTP Data
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I made a chart to focus on the area of importance
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This graph shows the curve Im talking about but it drops as performance increases since lower lap times are faster.
If the graph is flipped we see the improved performance curve, as seen here
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Looking at the performance graph we can see more clearly this curve starts at Zero Camber and performance is increased as camber is increased it peaks around -1.5 deg then curves back down and around -2.5deg camber the performance on the downward slope matches zero camber as it falls. -2.5deg is still faster than Zero...
This is the collective GTP Data I've used, I've not had any influence on the data collected. So according to GTP Test Data Camber is showing improved performance the curve of improvement very clear.
This curve is what we want to see to indicate camber is working properly in GT6
Here is the GTP Data
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I made a chart to focus on the area of importance
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This graph shows the curve Im talking about but it drops as performance increases since lower lap times are faster.
If the graph is flipped we see the improved performance curve, as seen here
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Looking at the performance graph we can see more clearly this curve starts at Zero Camber and performance is increased as camber is increased it peaks around -1.5 deg then curves back down and around -2.5deg camber the performance on the downward slope matches zero camber as it falls. -2.5deg is still faster than Zero...
This is the collective GTP Data I've used, I've not had any influence on the data collected. So according to GTP Test Data Camber is showing improved performance the curve of improvement very clear.
This curve is what we want to see to indicate camber is working properly in GT6
01-19-2015, 08:14 PM
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`I have a good example of Members just straight up instigating and being compete Douche Bags to another member, one who just has a different opinion to the GTP hate on PD crowd. This member is properly explaining himself without being rude at all (as I would have been) and old members and then a moderator comes in attacking him and backs up the instigator as if the instigator is justified, adding to his idiocy, the Moderator actually goes on the attack, attacking the victim.....
This shows that ar GTP there is a Protected Hate on PD Mentality. The GTP CAPITAL TROLL JohnnyPenso probably one of if not the biggest Troll Douche bag on GTP, can Troll anybody who likes GT6. This guy has no life at all, he actually doesn't like GT6 at all, there is not one thing he has good to say about the game, yet he is on GTP talking GT6 24/7 there is not many General Chat or Tuning issue topics he doesn't give his worthless 2 cents on and nothing he ever says is ever worth reading. This dumb POS has flame bated So may into getting banned and its clear he has Moderator Protection while doing so. This goes to show just how bad the management at GTP is.
Lets Look at this example where before they go in and clean the thread to make themselves not look like the Douchbags they are.
It allstarted with this post
Doesnt seem like something worth starting BS over, but here's how it went.
Imari is in the process of shit talking GT6 for lack of CM & BSpec with the usual, they lied to me BS talking about it was a detail advertised when he pre-orderred the game, what a fucking idiot. Learn to look into what you buy before you pay for it and you wont be stuck with buyers remorse so damn often
Anyways
Its pretty clear his original statement was a reflection of his opinion of what makes the game compete to him. I could say no racing game is complete without a course maker, but that's just my opinion.I personally am of the opinion GT6 is complete and the CM is an ADDITIONAL feature, and IMO additional content compliments a complete game adding to it and hens called "Additional" Content.
He explains himself just digging up some definitions of the word "complete" because this is how fucking retarded Imari is. When these idiots don't have anything real to speak on they try to invent bullshit. jimipitbull should not of even had to but he did, and it doesn't stop there.
Mr JohnnyPenso has to give his worthless 2 cents
Just riding buddies ass over the definition of the word "complete" that he IN FACT used correctly. Hes keeping his cool in the face of JohnnyPenso on the attack.
So True..
JohnnyPenso starts riding buddy over this fucking stupidity, the definition of "complete" and then the accusations start up. Accusing jimipitbull of deliberately misusing words to mislead people maliciously....
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!
Another calm cool response
Here is where a long time TOOL of a member Toronado swooops in to back JohnnnyPenso Up
Answering jimipitbull's post with a
and JohnnyPenso adds
Is this guy for real? How is it more members dont see this guy for what he is a fucking TROLL and defines the term. Tornado is totally backing up JohnnyPenso so the 2 of them are riding this guy over some bullshit.
So FINALLY Another member steps in to stop these assholes from trying to bully this member and he post a very respectablle post
Trying to add perspective and in all seriousness why are they riding this guy..... Because hes not shitting on GT6, its only safe to shit on GT6, heaven forbid you like the game OMFG.
So a un-involved member sees the bullshit going down and steps in to give some support to the guy getting a hard time by these 2 GTP Trolls (Yeah Tornado is right up there with Johnny as a Top GTP Troll, although Johnny takes the Cake as the King of all GTP Trolls.
What kind of thanks does he get for his very diplomatic post? He gets addressed by the moderator who has been in the thread for a while and the moderator supports the 2 fucking trolls as they bully this guy.
Is this fucking idiot serious? Yeah Ive bumped heads with this moron of a Moderator before for similar shit. This fucking turd brain doent seem to be smart enough to realize how much of an asshole he is, or its something he works hard at being, waking up each day thinking of new ways to be an asshole to people on the internet probably because hes a 5 foot nothing 90 pound runt.
Thankfully Aussy came with a Reply that SHUT THEM THE FUCK UP
What happened? The 3 bullies left without another comment, and have not posted in the thread since last night. Its CLEAR they got SHUT THE FUCK UP for being such fucking assholes and exposed, they just jump ship. Wow, what character, these guys really deserve respect.........
This shows that ar GTP there is a Protected Hate on PD Mentality. The GTP CAPITAL TROLL JohnnyPenso probably one of if not the biggest Troll Douche bag on GTP, can Troll anybody who likes GT6. This guy has no life at all, he actually doesn't like GT6 at all, there is not one thing he has good to say about the game, yet he is on GTP talking GT6 24/7 there is not many General Chat or Tuning issue topics he doesn't give his worthless 2 cents on and nothing he ever says is ever worth reading. This dumb POS has flame bated So may into getting banned and its clear he has Moderator Protection while doing so. This goes to show just how bad the management at GTP is.
Lets Look at this example where before they go in and clean the thread to make themselves not look like the Douchbags they are.
It allstarted with this post
Originally posted by jimipitbull
Indeed. With Bathurst, it feels more complete than any previous GT title.
Compare content to Forza 5, and GT6 feels twice as complete. The sales figures confirm this - GT6 has sold twice as many as FM5
Compare content to Forza 5, and GT6 feels twice as complete. The sales figures confirm this - GT6 has sold twice as many as FM5
Doesnt seem like something worth starting BS over, but here's how it went.
Originally posted by Imari
"Complete"
You keep using that word.
I do not think it means what you think it means.
You keep using that word.
I do not think it means what you think it means.
Imari is in the process of shit talking GT6 for lack of CM & BSpec with the usual, they lied to me BS talking about it was a detail advertised when he pre-orderred the game, what a fucking idiot. Learn to look into what you buy before you pay for it and you wont be stuck with buyers remorse so damn often
Anyways
Its pretty clear his original statement was a reflection of his opinion of what makes the game compete to him. I could say no racing game is complete without a course maker, but that's just my opinion.I personally am of the opinion GT6 is complete and the CM is an ADDITIONAL feature, and IMO additional content compliments a complete game adding to it and hens called "Additional" Content.
He explains himself just digging up some definitions of the word "complete" because this is how fucking retarded Imari is. When these idiots don't have anything real to speak on they try to invent bullshit. jimipitbull should not of even had to but he did, and it doesn't stop there.
Mr JohnnyPenso has to give his worthless 2 cents
Originally posted by JohnnyPenso
Selective quoting once again. Perhaps the full quote will shed a different light.
Your first definition:
Complete: (often used for emphasis) to the greatest extent or degree
The actual quote:
(often used for emphasis) to the greatest extent or degree; total.
"a complete ban on smoking"
synonyms: absolute, out-and-out, utter, total, real, downright, thoroughgoing,veritable, prize, perfect, unqualified, unmitigated, sheer, arrant, full-out
"a complete fool"
Bold is my emphasis.
The second was a little harder to find. Your selective quote:
Complete: having (something) as an additional part or feature.
That actual quote:
Heading:
Definition of complete in English:
ADJECTIVE
Having all the necessary or appropriate parts:a complete list of courses offered by the universityno woman’s wardrobe is complete without this pretty top
[Subsection] 1.2 (complete with) Having (something) as an additional part or feature:the house comes complete with gas central heating and double glazing
It's amazing how one easy it is to twist the meanings of things through selective quoting don't you agree?
Emphasis mine again.
Your first definition:
Complete: (often used for emphasis) to the greatest extent or degree
The actual quote:
(often used for emphasis) to the greatest extent or degree; total.
"a complete ban on smoking"
synonyms: absolute, out-and-out, utter, total, real, downright, thoroughgoing,veritable, prize, perfect, unqualified, unmitigated, sheer, arrant, full-out
"a complete fool"
Bold is my emphasis.
The second was a little harder to find. Your selective quote:
Complete: having (something) as an additional part or feature.
That actual quote:
Heading:
Definition of complete in English:
ADJECTIVE
Having all the necessary or appropriate parts:a complete list of courses offered by the universityno woman’s wardrobe is complete without this pretty top
[Subsection] 1.2 (complete with) Having (something) as an additional part or feature:the house comes complete with gas central heating and double glazing
It's amazing how one easy it is to twist the meanings of things through selective quoting don't you agree?
Emphasis mine again.
Just riding buddies ass over the definition of the word "complete" that he IN FACT used correctly. Hes keeping his cool in the face of JohnnyPenso on the attack.
Originally posted by jimipitbull
Cool story Johnny. You are certainly the complete google warrior.
So True..
JohnnyPenso starts riding buddy over this fucking stupidity, the definition of "complete" and then the accusations start up. Accusing jimipitbull of deliberately misusing words to mislead people maliciously....
Originally posted by JohnnyPenso
It's always worth a minute or two to reveal deliberate attempts to mislead and twist your way out of things with double talk and misdirection.
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!
Originally posted by jimipitbull
Because I was trying to mislead my own opinion? Nice misdirection you have there Johnny.
Another calm cool response
Here is where a long time TOOL of a member Toronado swooops in to back JohnnnyPenso Up
Answering jimipitbull's post with a
Originally posted by Tornado
Yep
and JohnnyPenso adds
Originally posted by JohnnyPenso
You were making up a whole new definition of the word "complete", got called on it by Imari, and then tried to support your made up defintion by appearing to copy/paste definitions gleaned from the interent to suit your made up definition. Unfortunately, I also google those exact same definitions and you deliberately left out the portions of those definitions which didn't support your misdirection.
Is this guy for real? How is it more members dont see this guy for what he is a fucking TROLL and defines the term. Tornado is totally backing up JohnnyPenso so the 2 of them are riding this guy over some bullshit.
Originally posted by Tornado
Johnny, he's right you know. Similar to jimipitbull's display above, so many people misused the word "literally" to try to sound more clever than they actually are
So FINALLY Another member steps in to stop these assholes from trying to bully this member and he post a very respectablle post
Originally posted by Aussie
Something can be technically complete and yet still feel like there is something missing.
Jimipitbull said it feels more complete with Bathurst in the game.
In other words without Bathurst in the game he felt something was missing.
If to him it feels more complete with Bathurst in the game, then to him it feels more complete.
The comment is a personal opinion and should be treated as such.
Instead it's challenged like it's a sworn affidavit in Federal court.
I've mentioned before how some here take a single word from someones post and push it to the nth degree.
Yet another prime example.
Jimipitbull said it feels more complete with Bathurst in the game.
In other words without Bathurst in the game he felt something was missing.
If to him it feels more complete with Bathurst in the game, then to him it feels more complete.
The comment is a personal opinion and should be treated as such.
Instead it's challenged like it's a sworn affidavit in Federal court.
I've mentioned before how some here take a single word from someones post and push it to the nth degree.
Yet another prime example.
Trying to add perspective and in all seriousness why are they riding this guy..... Because hes not shitting on GT6, its only safe to shit on GT6, heaven forbid you like the game OMFG.
So a un-involved member sees the bullshit going down and steps in to give some support to the guy getting a hard time by these 2 GTP Trolls (Yeah Tornado is right up there with Johnny as a Top GTP Troll, although Johnny takes the Cake as the King of all GTP Trolls.
What kind of thanks does he get for his very diplomatic post? He gets addressed by the moderator who has been in the thread for a while and the moderator supports the 2 fucking trolls as they bully this guy.
Originally posted by SlipZtrEm
That's certainly an interesting approach to take to defend someone's (unsurprising) choice of being deliberately misleading. But sure, let's run with it: it feels like GT6 is missing something. More specifically, it's missing something the makers of the game themselves said would be in it. Up until they either a) release it, or b) announce it's for sure not coming, the game is incomplete.
I've mentioned before how some here take a single word from someones post and push it to the nth degree.
Yet another prime example.
A member seeks to redefine a word by selectively quoting a definition to further mislead. Why would people take issue with that?
I've mentioned before how some here take a single word from someones post and push it to the nth degree.
Yet another prime example.
A member seeks to redefine a word by selectively quoting a definition to further mislead. Why would people take issue with that?
Is this fucking idiot serious? Yeah Ive bumped heads with this moron of a Moderator before for similar shit. This fucking turd brain doent seem to be smart enough to realize how much of an asshole he is, or its something he works hard at being, waking up each day thinking of new ways to be an asshole to people on the internet probably because hes a 5 foot nothing 90 pound runt.
Thankfully Aussy came with a Reply that SHUT THEM THE FUCK UP
Originally posted by Aussie
This is some sort of joke right?
CLowndes888 said
If a game is delayed so it can be finished, people complain. If a game is released on time but with missing content, people complain. In all seriousness, most of you should be feeling happy that PD has released something on time. For a so-called "unfinished" game, GT6 feels more complete than GT5. B-Spec and Course Maker are the last things I think about.
To which Jimipitbull quoted and replied
jimipitbull said
Indeed. With Bathurst, it feels more complete than any previous GT title.
Compare content to Forza 5, and GT6 feels twice as complete. The sales figures confirm this - GT6 has sold twice as many as FM5
Clearly using 'feels complete' figuratively to express his opinion in direct response to the post he quoted.
Someone decided to focus purely on the word 'complete' while ignoring the context in which it was used.
So once again Jimipitbull said
jimipitbull said
If you can achieve 100% completion, that would satisfy the definition of complete.
If one game has twice as many tracks to utilize towards that 100% completion, it would feel twice as complete.
What do you think it means?
But of course the intent of the comment was again ignored and treated as though he was claiming the game itself was complete.
And now there's a mod quoting the AUP because the definition of the word that was taken out of context is apparently 'false, misleading, or inaccurate'
Despite how someone else has claimed it 'was a little harder to find', all I did was google 'complete'. I got :
"having (something) as an additional part or feature." and
"(often used for emphasis) to the greatest extent or degree; total."
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To suggest Jimipitbull was 'making up a whole new definition of the word' is pure hyperbole.
And to claim those definitions are against the AUP is hairsplitting and clutching at straws at best.
SlipZtrEm said
That's certainly an interesting approach to take to defend someone's (unsurprising) choice of being deliberately misleading. But sure, let's run with it: it feels like GT6 is missing something. More specifically, it's missing something the makers of the game themselves said would be in it. Up until they either a) release it, or b) announce it's for sure not coming, the game is incomplete.
I can only assume that is your thoughts on the matter, because that certainly isn't what I said.
The way you have written it is quite misleading.
SlipZtrEm said
That's certainly an interesting approach to take to defend someone's (unsurprising) choice of being deliberately misleading. But sure, let's run with it: it feels like GT6 is missing something. More specifically, it's missing something the makers of the game themselves said would be in it. Up until they either a) release it, or b) announce it's for sure not coming, the game is incomplete.
It seems you are saying Jimipitbull's original post was deliberately misleading.
SlipZtrEm said
A member seeks to redefine a word by selectively quoting a definition to further mislead. Why would people take issue with that?
And to me this confirms that that's precisely what you are doing.
How do you come to the conclusion someone is 'deliberately misleading' when they are simply expressing their opinion?
He wasn't stating a fact.
He didn't claim GT6 was 'complete'.
He said it 'feels complete'.
And all of this overblown rubbish because someone decided to take a word from someones post and use it out of context in an attempt to ... I don't know ... be clever?
Ridiculous.
CLowndes888 said
If a game is delayed so it can be finished, people complain. If a game is released on time but with missing content, people complain. In all seriousness, most of you should be feeling happy that PD has released something on time. For a so-called "unfinished" game, GT6 feels more complete than GT5. B-Spec and Course Maker are the last things I think about.
To which Jimipitbull quoted and replied
jimipitbull said
Indeed. With Bathurst, it feels more complete than any previous GT title.
Compare content to Forza 5, and GT6 feels twice as complete. The sales figures confirm this - GT6 has sold twice as many as FM5
Clearly using 'feels complete' figuratively to express his opinion in direct response to the post he quoted.
Someone decided to focus purely on the word 'complete' while ignoring the context in which it was used.
So once again Jimipitbull said
jimipitbull said
If you can achieve 100% completion, that would satisfy the definition of complete.
If one game has twice as many tracks to utilize towards that 100% completion, it would feel twice as complete.
What do you think it means?
But of course the intent of the comment was again ignored and treated as though he was claiming the game itself was complete.
And now there's a mod quoting the AUP because the definition of the word that was taken out of context is apparently 'false, misleading, or inaccurate'
Despite how someone else has claimed it 'was a little harder to find', all I did was google 'complete'. I got :
"having (something) as an additional part or feature." and
"(often used for emphasis) to the greatest extent or degree; total."
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To suggest Jimipitbull was 'making up a whole new definition of the word' is pure hyperbole.
And to claim those definitions are against the AUP is hairsplitting and clutching at straws at best.
SlipZtrEm said
That's certainly an interesting approach to take to defend someone's (unsurprising) choice of being deliberately misleading. But sure, let's run with it: it feels like GT6 is missing something. More specifically, it's missing something the makers of the game themselves said would be in it. Up until they either a) release it, or b) announce it's for sure not coming, the game is incomplete.
I can only assume that is your thoughts on the matter, because that certainly isn't what I said.
The way you have written it is quite misleading.
SlipZtrEm said
That's certainly an interesting approach to take to defend someone's (unsurprising) choice of being deliberately misleading. But sure, let's run with it: it feels like GT6 is missing something. More specifically, it's missing something the makers of the game themselves said would be in it. Up until they either a) release it, or b) announce it's for sure not coming, the game is incomplete.
It seems you are saying Jimipitbull's original post was deliberately misleading.
SlipZtrEm said
A member seeks to redefine a word by selectively quoting a definition to further mislead. Why would people take issue with that?
And to me this confirms that that's precisely what you are doing.
How do you come to the conclusion someone is 'deliberately misleading' when they are simply expressing their opinion?
He wasn't stating a fact.
He didn't claim GT6 was 'complete'.
He said it 'feels complete'.
And all of this overblown rubbish because someone decided to take a word from someones post and use it out of context in an attempt to ... I don't know ... be clever?
Ridiculous.
What happened? The 3 bullies left without another comment, and have not posted in the thread since last night. Its CLEAR they got SHUT THE FUCK UP for being such fucking assholes and exposed, they just jump ship. Wow, what character, these guys really deserve respect.........
01-20-2015, 06:21 AM
#385
SiNiST3R
Samurai Poster
If you say something positive about PD or even that you still support PD despite the flaws of GT6... The King Kong Ding-A-Ling has to try and shit on them
Johnny obviously is not Married lol I wonder if this chump has ever gotten Laid!
Originally posted by BrodieBoi94
I absolutely support PD. Every game they have made which I have experienced has brought enjoyment to my life.
I know they have made some mistakes here and there but they aren't perfect, none of us are, so it's fine by me.
Besides the money I have spent on their games has been given back to me multiple times over in their generous free dlc, and as I said before the enjoyment I get from playing their games.
Just because all of the cars don't sound as goood as they could, or some aren't as detailed as others does not mean that I will stop supporting them. That's such a minor defect to abandon the series for.
I mean just think of it this way. If you had a B-E-A-UTIFUL wife and she couldn't sing well, would you say "Oh I can't be with you anymore, I want a divorce because you can't sing well."
I know they have made some mistakes here and there but they aren't perfect, none of us are, so it's fine by me.
Besides the money I have spent on their games has been given back to me multiple times over in their generous free dlc, and as I said before the enjoyment I get from playing their games.
Just because all of the cars don't sound as goood as they could, or some aren't as detailed as others does not mean that I will stop supporting them. That's such a minor defect to abandon the series for.
I mean just think of it this way. If you had a B-E-A-UTIFUL wife and she couldn't sing well, would you say "Oh I can't be with you anymore, I want a divorce because you can't sing well."
Originally posted by JohnnyPenso
A marriage analogy eh?
What if you had a wife, that was beautiful sometimes, and other times not and she's really starting to show her age? She was cranky some days, some days she didn't work at all. She kept giving you stuff but it wasn't the stuff you wanted. She didn't keep all of her promises and those she kept, she would just deliver on them whenever she felt like it. 13 months ago she said she'd redecorate the living room and still hasn't gotten around to it. Her voice is whiny and screechy and not at all pleasant and she kept promising to work on it but never got around to it in 15 years.
Meanwhile you see other wives that are still beautiful, have a voice like an angel, work hard and give their husbands the stuff they really want on a regular basis. Best of all, they don't cost any more to date and marry than your current wife.
Now what
What if you had a wife, that was beautiful sometimes, and other times not and she's really starting to show her age? She was cranky some days, some days she didn't work at all. She kept giving you stuff but it wasn't the stuff you wanted. She didn't keep all of her promises and those she kept, she would just deliver on them whenever she felt like it. 13 months ago she said she'd redecorate the living room and still hasn't gotten around to it. Her voice is whiny and screechy and not at all pleasant and she kept promising to work on it but never got around to it in 15 years.
Meanwhile you see other wives that are still beautiful, have a voice like an angel, work hard and give their husbands the stuff they really want on a regular basis. Best of all, they don't cost any more to date and marry than your current wife.
Now what
Johnny obviously is not Married lol I wonder if this chump has ever gotten Laid!
02-04-2015, 07:25 PM
#386
Stottie
Gobble
Originally posted by SiNiST3R
Glitch Tuning in GT6
Reverse Rake, Low Accel Settings (sub 20) no wheel angles, abnormal/reversed dampers & Mandatory ABS
Hey if people want to drive fake ass Bullshit Cars, it's all good but don't confuse that garbage with real world tuning or cars that even feel remotely close to real world cars. It's a choice. It takes a bit longer to properly tune a car without resorting to Glitch Tricks its too bad,
No one confuses this type of tuning with real life - GT6 isn't real life, is a game. But the fact remains that this is how you tune a car to be fast in GT6. If you want to tune in another way that's fine, but you will be slower.
To address a couple of the personal comments in here...
Originally posted by SiNiST3R
Stotty admits to not driving sans ABS in "a long time" I would stake my left Nut hes got the gear shift indicator on if not the driving line too if he admits it or not.
LMFAO... I'm a GT Academy National finalist and have ranked inside the top 20 in 100's of seasonal time trials. What's your PSN so I can look for you on the leader boards?
Originally posted by mustang
Stotty has a hard-on for some WhoosierGirl chick over there so he's also trying to impress her with all of his fake ass wisdom. The guy is a real joke.
Even funnier than the shit above... are you 15 years old? When you grow up you'll realise that men can have female friends without the need to have sex with them.
39 pages of intellectual masturbation... hilarious.
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02-04-2015, 07:38 PM
#388
SiNiST3R
Samurai Poster
Originally posted by Stottie
No one confuses this type of tuning with real life - GT6 isn't real life, is a game. But the fact remains that this is how you tune a car to be fast in GT6. If you want to tune in another way that's fine, but you will be slower.
Nobody denies you can glitch tune fast cars that handle like alien space ships, nothing like real cars your basically turning GT in Ridge Racer or F-Zero, congratulations for you.
Some of us play the game for different reasons, we like to get as real of an experience as we can even tho that experience escapes you. Turn off assist on your cars and they don't even stay on the track let alone set fast laps, its a joke.
No hiding, I can take a replay file and see the cars set up and assist used, I pulled WRS winner laps to reveal the most bullshit sets ups that fall on their face when ABS is shut off, thats why you dipshits push for ABS 1 because YOU SUCK without it.
I got no issue with ABS but you GTP elitist act like elitist while using assist (don't you want my PSN name because your ohh so fast lol) Your acting like elite while running training wheels, get the fuck out of here with that bullshit...
Originally posted by Stottie
LMFAO... I'm a GT Academy National finalist and have ranked inside the top 20 in 100's of seasonal time trials. What's your PSN so I can look for you on the leader boards?
But you haven't won, so who gives a shit. Nobody cares how high you rank if you never rank high enough for it to matter. Id bet you'd like to know my PSN name so you can throw out your GT-Penis lol nobody gives a shit Dickhead... As fast as you may be your a driving cripple unable to run without assist....
Your talking as if being fast in a video game makes a difference and your not even the fastest, what a fucking joke. If you win GTA good for you at that point being fast in a video game has got you something, until then its a hobby for you just like the rest of us sucker.
Oh Driving Line & Shift indicator on top of ABS as suspected.... Nothing wrong with that except when you develop an elitist attitude over it. I drive completely assist free, and I do believe driving completely assist free requires more skill, but I don't run around challenging everybody to prove Im the fastest because I don't have to, I dont stick my assist free skills in ANYBODIES FACE all I do is mark my times as assist free times and my personal opinion is only important in my opinion to me, if other hold a value in my opinion its up to them.
Im fine with those that play with assist and I welcome them, I'm happy when more people are playing the game I love in any way. I even dig the guys who just take photos, as long as they don't shit on the guys not into that. You have your way of playing GT and for some reason you think its the highest level and better than other when its not the highest level, you use assist, and no level is better than any other, we are all just playing a game. Hats off to those who win GTA and take it further but the winners of GTA are a small % of the people actually playing it. I commend Kaz for providing gamers with the opportunity, and I have to say the last few crops have had a real driver or 2 among them.
Who the fuck are you? Some guy that was almost fast enough but didn't make it...... Big Fucking Deal ROFLMFAO but you are one proud ass motherfucker for coming up short thinking and your more important than everybody not as high as you on the GTA list lol THAT is funny... Your as important as a pussy fart.
Originally posted by Stottie
Even funnier than the shit above... are you 15 years old? When you grow up you'll realise that men can have female friends without the need to have sex with them.
Hahaha its not working out then is it lol I bet your in the "friends" category aren't you lol good luck with that...
Originally posted by Stottie
39 pages of intellectual masturbation... hilarious.
I see thousands upon thousands of plain masturbation post from you at GTP, at least mine are intellectual masturbation, yours are like a homeless retard in a alley jerking off. My farts have more intellect.
Originally posted by cheesyy
loool you write so much you bitch
I love it lol, how long do you think your going to last? Your last ban was not fast enough lol
lol your already gone, C yah, this ain't GTP Bitch.
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