Post: GT6 Game Physics Testing
04-30-2014, 09:03 PM #1
SiNiST3R
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Here are some videos (I can only add 2 so Ill link post where videos are posted when I can)



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Jounijkk, kazzbakkisback, nextgole, OdeFinn, P$ycho, policedu, q-k, turbo_nova2l, tyronekfc
05-06-2015, 03:48 AM #578
SiNiST3R
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Originally posted by RocketScientist View Post
The NSX has decent stock lsd, as I recall, the car had only about 340bhp from low boost turbo, and it was a daily driver with everything intact, so it must have been quite heavy. I definitely felt the rear outside loses traction first when I floor it, not a weak diff in my book, maybe because the car has low miles and had the diff oil replaced.


Example

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1991-1994 NSX’s like our project NSX have conventional clutch-type limited slips, which in the case of the stock NSX is pretty light. This is fine for the output of the stock engine with soft stock suspension and small tires but as you increase the power and grip, the locking ability is not strong enough and inside wheel spin rears its ugly head again. While the stock LSD unit can be preloaded to be ‘tighter’ and more aggressive, it still has shortcomings in locking ability, design, and tune-ability. For our turbocharged engine, and planned bigger and stickier tires, this was not going to cut it.


Case & point

If the NSX Diff was too tight you would have diff induced understeer on a NSX with Track Tires and only 340hp..

Track tires should hold a heck of a lot more power then the stock diff can handle, track tires and more power Id go for a tighter diff than the stock one..... Just like [url]www.motoiq.com[/url] on their Project-NSX


Honestly sounds like the tires were not up to temp or just about done, or they were simply not track tires but regular garbage not even up to par with the stock tires possibly a cheaper alternative that is so often the case with NSX...

However most racers will say that throttle over steer is easily fixed with better throttle control. 340hp NSX on Track Tires, not likely a question of throttle control, sounds like tire issues, cold, old or Chepo Budget OEM Replacements....

BUT That is an issue doing a quick run with somebody else car, sometimes the car is not at its best when testing, tires not in ideal condition etc...
05-06-2015, 07:56 AM #579
Originally posted by SiNiST3R View Post
Example



Case & point

If the NSX Diff was too tight you would have diff induced understeer on a NSX with Track Tires and only 340hp..

Track tires should hold a heck of a lot more power then the stock diff can handle, track tires and more power Id go for a tighter diff than the stock one..... Just like [url]www.motoiq.com[/url] on their Project-NSX


Honestly sounds like the tires were not up to temp or just about done, or they were simply not track tires but regular garbage not even up to par with the stock tires possibly a cheaper alternative that is so often the case with NSX...

However most racers will say that throttle over steer is easily fixed with better throttle control. 340hp NSX on Track Tires, not likely a question of throttle control, sounds like tire issues, cold, old or Chepo Budget OEM Replacements....

BUT That is an issue doing a quick run with somebody else car, sometimes the car is not at its best when testing, tires not in ideal condition etc...


May have been worn out tire Smile I have spent a few hours finding my old videos on the NSX, the early 90's one, found one with the lap at nordschleife, the NSX did spin outside rear tire even on high speed cornering. The NSX was red in color. I guess the driver have to push it hard enough or the test car had better lsd ?
05-06-2015, 08:24 AM #580
SiNiST3R
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Originally posted by RocketScientist View Post
May have been worn out tire Smile I have spent a few hours finding my old videos on the NSX, the early 90's one, found one with the lap at nordschleife, the NSX did spin outside rear tire even on high speed cornering. The NSX was red in color. I guess the driver have to push it hard enough or the test car had better lsd ?


Do you have the video?
05-06-2015, 03:10 PM #581
OdeFinn
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@sinister, clean up some space.
05-06-2015, 08:49 PM #582
Jounijkk
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Thank you Ode

I was so curious that I bought this car and put Your setup to this car. I drove only one lap with this car ( little bit busy in my work at the moment, no time for gt6 ) and it seems to be very well done. Actually You have done really good job. I need some time to get to know this car. There are some very interesting parts with that setup, for ex rear toe, arb and stiffness of suspensions. My approach would have been different, but Your choice is better, much better. Car feels extremely well balanced. You must have spent lots of time with this car.

I put Your garage to favourites of my browser. I think that Your setup will be successful in this fitt competition. I also hope that You have time, will and energy to continue Your setup work.

Jounijkk

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05-06-2015, 09:06 PM #583
SiNiST3R
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Originally posted by Jounijkk View Post
Thank you Ode

I was so curious that I bought this car and put Your setup to this car. I drove only one lap with this car ( little bit busy in my work at the moment, no time for gt6 ) and it seems to be very well done. Actually You have done really good job. I need some time to get to know this car. There are some very interesting parts with that setup, for ex rear toe, arb and stiffness of suspensions. My approach would have been different, but Your choice is better, much better. Car feels extremely well balanced. You must have spent lots of time with this car.

I put Your garage to favourites of my browser. I think that Your setup will be successful in this fitt competition. I also hope that You have time, will and energy to continue Your setup work.

Jounijkk


Nice!!!!
05-06-2015, 10:33 PM #584
OdeFinn
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Originally posted by Jounijkk View Post
Thank you Ode

I was so curious that I bought this car and put Your setup to this car. I drove only one lap with this car ( little bit busy in my work at the moment, no time for gt6 ) and it seems to be very well done. Actually You have done really good job. I need some time to get to know this car. There are some very interesting parts with that setup, for ex rear toe, arb and stiffness of suspensions. My approach would have been different, but Your choice is better, much better. Car feels extremely well balanced. You must have spent lots of time with this car.

I put Your garage to favourites of my browser. I think that Your setup will be successful in this fitt competition. I also hope that You have time, will and energy to continue Your setup work.

Jounijkk


Thanks, actually doing car on that shape takes approx two hour. And most of that time goes to fixing gearbox. Smile
Only needing some understanding what to do and good senses.
05-07-2015, 01:11 AM #585
Originally posted by SiNiST3R View Post
I shouldn't have to tell you to fuck off with the PCars and GTP Propaganda. Christ like you've not been told enough in so many threads about your fucking Trolling, give it a rest... Is it so hard for you to just let people enjoy GT6? Nobody gives a shit you don't think its realistic enough, Nobody here cares who your friends are especially if your friends with JohnnyPenso...... The JOKE is your Trolling ass coming in and defending JP saying hes not a Troll, are you fucking serious???? A Troll coming to defend a Troll for trolling, Classic..


What is cool is despite the pollution of GTP propaganda some members here have found garages at GTP where they have many great tunes to try out and enjoy, one already has a FanClub, seems the other may be derserving of one soon...

I also think this Kat Suspension at GTP is very interesting, takes the realest approach to a tuning garage I've ever seen. Ive also heard good things about Exidus (I know I got that wrong) but somebody will correct me.)

There is starting to be enough Garages at GTP I might have to make a list of Garages at GTP I suggest people to try as Ridox, OdeFiNN, Suspension and Exider (Sorry) seem very interesting the first 2 are on it already and the other 2 look very promising.


If you apologize for this post I will delete my post in @OdeFinn tunning garage.

Do the 2 of you mind Trolling some GTP Pcars thread............ Naw its Troll NGU Day....

Its one moron feeding the other moron... SuperGT & JohnnyPenso a match made in heaven, they are going to make little Troll Babies together lolololol
05-07-2015, 01:18 AM #586
SiNiST3R
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Originally posted by hristo1026 View Post
If you apologize for this post I will delete my post in @OdeFinn tunning garage.

Do the 2 of you mind Trolling some GTP Pcars thread............ Naw its Troll NGU Day....

Its one moron feeding the other moron... SuperGT & JohnnyPenso a match made in heaven, they are going to make little Troll Babies together lolololol


Maybe you can leave OdeFiNN out of it because his asking me to clean up space was asking me to clean my inbox for PM as my inbox was full.... Its not asking me to clean the thread kicking you out.... We have testing going on in PM that has nothing to do with you................... Everything I say is from me, don't blame anybody else. OdeFinn has been keeping himself out of my GTP beef despite the usual GTP guys trying to suck him in..

How about you take a hint, after a year its kinda hard to be nice about you being oblivious to it.....

So you come here threatening Trolling OdeFiNN on GTP?!?!?!?!?!? Are you serious, Wow you might just be the King Troll after all, a JohnnyPenso disciple overtaking the throne..

How about you fix your post at GTP because its a stupid post to make trying to blame my post on OdeFiNN like he asked me to post it, that's moronic....

NO I wont apologize for calling a Spade a Spade.....

If you keep Trolling here you simply wont be able to post here anymore, simple as that..... I hope OdeFiNN Reports you at GTP and they delete the post because as much as I would JUST LOVE to have a pic of my post trashing you and JP posted at GTP. Its not right as OdeFiNN is not a part of it at all.

Why is it people try to suck him into my beef with GTP when hes made it pretty clear its not his business hes not getting into it....

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