Post: [CAUTION:]►PS3 OFW 3.56 New Feature: ➟Rootkit
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01-31-2011, 04:29 AM
#1
NextGenTactics
Banned
Originally posted by another user
Vagabundo posts:
Apparently, examination of the OFW has found a new feature that will allow Sony to download and run code when you login to PSN.
The code they can run is obviously to check for CFW or whatever, but the code could change to check for anything really.
And with the current state of PS3 security there is the possibility that others might be able to run their code on your PS3 without your knowledge.
I don't run CFW and I'm pretty pissed about this. What they are doing might be illegal in the EU.
Apparently, examination of the OFW has found a new feature that will allow Sony to download and run code when you login to PSN.
The code they can run is obviously to check for CFW or whatever, but the code could change to check for anything really.
And with the current state of PS3 security there is the possibility that others might be able to run their code on your PS3 without your knowledge.
I don't run CFW and I'm pretty pissed about this. What they are doing might be illegal in the EU.
Originally posted by another user
Originally Posted by N.A
For those who are curious about the new PS3 security, it seems Sony has implemented something in 3.56 I mentioned here a few weeks ago that is the same as Microsoft uses to detect and ban 360's.
Mathieulh just posted about it on IRC.
Essentially Sony can now remotely execute code on the PS3 as soon as you connect.
This can do whatever Sony wants it to do such as verifying system files or searching for homebrew. Sony can change the code and add new detection methods without any firmware updates and as the code executes remotely there is no reliable way to forge the replies.
Whilst it is possible to patch or remove this code from the firmware this will likely mean the end of playing CFW online (as PSN can just check before login that this is active) or at the very least mean it will be even easier for Sony to detect and ban users.
Judging from the fact that people can still connect using the proxy method it seems Sony hasn't activated any of this yet but the functions are there in the new firmware.
For those who are curious about the new PS3 security, it seems Sony has implemented something in 3.56 I mentioned here a few weeks ago that is the same as Microsoft uses to detect and ban 360's.
Mathieulh just posted about it on IRC.
Essentially Sony can now remotely execute code on the PS3 as soon as you connect.
This can do whatever Sony wants it to do such as verifying system files or searching for homebrew. Sony can change the code and add new detection methods without any firmware updates and as the code executes remotely there is no reliable way to forge the replies.
Whilst it is possible to patch or remove this code from the firmware this will likely mean the end of playing CFW online (as PSN can just check before login that this is active) or at the very least mean it will be even easier for Sony to detect and ban users.
Judging from the fact that people can still connect using the proxy method it seems Sony hasn't activated any of this yet but the functions are there in the new firmware.
Originally posted by another user
Originally Posted by IRC
Jan 27 14:44:32 <Mathieulh> 3.56 has nice new stuffs in there
Jan 27 14:44:43 <Mathieulh> like remote code execution upon login
Jan 27 14:44:45 <Sorrowuk> They will just release patches so people who have hacked cant go online
Jan 27 14:44:46 <Mathieulh> yummy
Jan 27 14:44:50 <noone> WAT
Jan 27 14:45:00 <noone> RFE built-in the fw!?
Jan 27 14:45:25 <Mathieulh> 3.56 pretty much has a built in psn rootkit
Jan 27 14:45:30 <noone> dude, that's the only stuff i'd be afraid of
Jan 27 14:45:31 <Mathieulh> don't tell me I haven't warned you
Jan 27 14:45:43 <Sorrowuk> psn rootkit ?
Jan 27 14:46:05 <noone> but if we could rip-off the fw that shit would be erased
Jan 27 14:46:20 <noone> that was the only thing stopped sony to _auto_ update your fw
Jan 27 14:46:22 <Mathieulh> noone it's not that simple
Jan 27 14:46:29 <Mathieulh> the server awaits a proper reply
Jan 27 14:46:34 <Mathieulh> and that reply isn't in the firmware
Jan 27 14:44:32 <Mathieulh> 3.56 has nice new stuffs in there
Jan 27 14:44:43 <Mathieulh> like remote code execution upon login
Jan 27 14:44:45 <Sorrowuk> They will just release patches so people who have hacked cant go online
Jan 27 14:44:46 <Mathieulh> yummy
Jan 27 14:44:50 <noone> WAT
Jan 27 14:45:00 <noone> RFE built-in the fw!?
Jan 27 14:45:25 <Mathieulh> 3.56 pretty much has a built in psn rootkit
Jan 27 14:45:30 <noone> dude, that's the only stuff i'd be afraid of
Jan 27 14:45:31 <Mathieulh> don't tell me I haven't warned you
Jan 27 14:45:43 <Sorrowuk> psn rootkit ?
Jan 27 14:46:05 <noone> but if we could rip-off the fw that shit would be erased
Jan 27 14:46:20 <noone> that was the only thing stopped sony to _auto_ update your fw
Jan 27 14:46:22 <Mathieulh> noone it's not that simple
Jan 27 14:46:29 <Mathieulh> the server awaits a proper reply
Jan 27 14:46:34 <Mathieulh> and that reply isn't in the firmware
Sony's not even trying to hide it either...
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01-31-2011, 09:57 PM
#74
partypoker15
Call me G
O wow, wtf. We bought and paid for our ps3's and using some of geohotz argument "It's our ps3 we can what ever the f*ck we want with it"
I thing sony is over-stepping their boundary here. "Illegal in the EU" Hell it might be illegal in the US. (Not sure, I would have to look into that)
I think if it's legal it's a CLEAR abuse of power by Sony.
I thing sony is over-stepping their boundary here. "Illegal in the EU" Hell it might be illegal in the US. (Not sure, I would have to look into that)
I think if it's legal it's a CLEAR abuse of power by Sony.
01-31-2011, 10:03 PM
#75
kimballjones
REBUG Junk
Originally posted by HaXxOnline
man wtf... did you read what i wrote? i didnt specify that elite mossy does THAT kind of hacking i just said that he is one of the people that are really into hacking ohh btw elite mossy has created a programm that allows people to upgrade their ps3's from system update/update via internet i cant find a link right now
Lmao you clearly said Sony is fxcked and is gonna piss off Hackers (elitemossy for ex.) lmao you dug your own grave im sorry.. He does mw2 hacking not the actual console hack itself. Prov le to me he does and ill shutup.
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01-31-2011, 10:08 PM
#76
HaXxOnline
Pokemon Trainer
01-31-2011, 10:12 PM
#77
STyLe_JapaN
Mario!
Originally posted by HaXxOnline
man wtf... did you read what i wrote? i didnt specify that elite mossy does THAT kind of hacking i just said that he is one of the people that are really into hacking ohh btw elite mossy has created a programm that allows people to upgrade their ps3's from system update/update via internet i cant find a link right now
where? :whistle:
01-31-2011, 10:13 PM
#78
ChillChiefly96
< ^ > < ^ >
Originally posted by MuTeD
i wrote sony ... i think everyone should:
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Customer By Web Form - 01/30/2011 02:35 AM
If I buy a car (lets say a Honda) and I pay cash for it (lets say $300) and I don't like the way it runs ... if I put a new transmision in it does Honda have the right to sue me? Just wondering b/c my car runs like shit but i dont want to get sued or have my tools impounded. Please hit me back and let me know something.
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Customer By Web Form - 01/30/2011 02:35 AM
If I buy a car (lets say a Honda) and I pay cash for it (lets say $300) and I don't like the way it runs ... if I put a new transmision in it does Honda have the right to sue me? Just wondering b/c my car runs like shit but i dont want to get sued or have my tools impounded. Please hit me back and let me know something.
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****ing true that. :bro:
01-31-2011, 10:14 PM
#79
CHAOZ
Banned
Originally posted by Sk8erFerSur
Are they allowed to "destroy" or brick your Ps3 if they find illegal software? They really don't have the right to look through everything without your consent, and they REALLY don't have the right to brick your PS3 (All we did by hacking was break the warranty, it's not like what we did is killing their company (it's killing Ps3's Gamesales though because of pirated games).
us violating their terms of agreement, gives them access to whatever they want/feel.
01-31-2011, 10:21 PM
#80
nutta1234
Haxor!
sorry break the bad news guys though because you signed up for psn and agree to the terms and conditions you veto the right to pretty much anything on ps3. Its a bit of a gray area though im sure there is loopholes in eu law. Ill check and see what i can find though im almost sure that it is invasion of privacy and hacking of private computers and ip addresses which breaks atleast one law in the eu constitution. Under the human rights act you have the right to a private life. Aswell, since nobody ever signed a contract physically, and only clicked accept then realistically speaking its a partial agreement. Worth double checking......hope this has been of some help
ps will get back with what ive found
ps will get back with what ive found
01-31-2011, 10:37 PM
#81
SpideyVenom_
Keeper
I believe Sony shouldn't be able to do this. It's like a cop going in your house to search you without permission or a good reason. Sony is basically looking at your PS3 without your permission. The only reason they should be able to look at your PS3 is if you selected to let Sony see your info when creating a new account. It shows two options when creating your account whether if you want them to look at your PS3.
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