I was basically trying to make a point. We'll turn over every stone in the entire God damn middle east until we find this ****er.

Any country could have dropped a bomb over Germany and ended it saving more Ally lives, but they didn't.

They realised that devastation would have been for too great. The soviet Union is a good example. They lost 10 million men during the war. At any point they could have got their hands on an A-bomb to drop on Germany,

but they didn't. Think about this for example. You are stood next to a little child, say a 5 year old. You HAVE to choose whether you get shot, or the child burns to death. What do you choose? Anyone who had morals would choose them selves to be shot. You don't let a child burn. NOBODY should. The effects of the bomb are still around today. An estimate of the bomb was 70 000 dead instantly. That number continued to rise AFTER the bombing. That's just deaths. You also have the deformed people, and deformed BABIES still being born TODAY. The effects will be around for many years to come. Radioactivity doesn't just stop dead overnight. Even if Nagasaki and Hiroshima were producing the equipment for Japan to fight the war, it's only the same as American doing the EXACT same thing as they were, but wait, Japan didn't bomb the hell out of them did they? The women in Japan would have been in the same position as American/British women. They would have HAD to work in those factories to make them, just like in America and Britain. Basically you yourself are saying that the American woman who were doing the same job as the Japanese women were NOT innocent. They were doing the same thing. So yes, they were innocent civilians working in those towns, and if you disagree, then the American women were also not innocent. In all fairness, you presented a flawed argument that anyone who isn't American should be able to see. There is no justified reason as to why America dropped the bombs.

It's not the same. Japan used 'normal' bombs that would only destroy the base, not cause a massive disaster that 70 years on the effects are still around.

Spoken like a true American, thinking with your trigger finger not your head.

And Pricey, if the US took guns away, the criminals would got their guns illegally would keep the guns and law abiding citizens would turn them in. Think about it.

It's all good saying that America dropped the bomb to save more lives but look at the other countries. How many lives was were* lost during the war.

Any country could have dropped a bomb over Germany and ended it saving more Ally lives, but they didn't.

False, they didn't even know an atomic bomb could exist. The atomic bomb was invented by Americans AFTER the period in which the Nazi's were defeated, so dropping a bomb on a country that had already lost a war would be pointless. People seem to forget Germany wasn't the only country in World War 2, the German's were defeated before the Japanese were, who were by the use of the atomic bomb.

They realised realized* that devastation would have been for too great. The soviet Union is a good example. They lost 10 million men during the war. At any point they could have got their hands on an A-bomb to drop on Germany, but they didn't.

That's like if I said I could have easily just gone to the future using a time machine that wasn't invented yet into a time where it was invented and then use that time machine to go back in time before World War 3 and destroy the plans of Australia to take over the world. Sound like bullshit? It is, just like your counterargument. How could the Soviet Union get their hands on a bomb they didn't know existed, did not exist during the time they were in war with Germany, and even contemplate using it? Think twice.

Think about this for example. You are stood next to a little child, say a 5 year old. You HAVE to choose whether you get shot, or the child burns to death. What do you choose? Anyone who had morals would choose them selves to be shot. You don't let a child burn. NOBODY should.

Never have I been in that situation nor will I. But if by chance I was given the option to live my life or have a baby being burned to death I would choose my life. We are forced by society to have an outstanding list of morals and if not followed completely we are hated by society itself. But lets think about this for a second, your own life versus ANY other? How could it possibly be less important? Family, friends, whoever the **** it is that's going to burn to death, my life>any other. I may sound ignorant and completely absurd right now but if you feel that way you're the one that has been played like a fool by society, you're it's bitch.

The effects of the bomb are still around today. An estimate of the bomb was 70 000 dead instantly. That number continued to rise AFTER the bombing. That's just deaths. You also have the deformed people, and deformed BABIES still being born TODAY. The effects will be around for many years to come. Radioactivity doesn't just stop dead overnight. Even if Nagasaki and Hiroshima were producing the equipment for Japan to fight the war, it's only the same as American doing the EXACT same thing as they were, but wait, Japan didn't bomb the hell out of them did they? The women in Japan would have been in the same position as American/British women. They would have HAD to work in those factories to make them, just like in America and Britain. Basically you yourself are saying that the American woman who were doing the same job as the Japanese women were NOT innocent. They were doing the same thing. So yes, they were innocent civilians working in those towns, and if you disagree, then the American women were also not innocent. In all fairness, you presented a flawed argument that anyone who isn't American should be able to see. There is no justified reason as to why America dropped the bombs.

Perhaps the Japanese who enter the closed area should realize that they shouldn't be stupid as **** and enter an area that is radioactive, and closed off with no sign of life in the area? Also Japan was a communist country, America has always been democratic. The woman of America chose to work in factories and get PAID for their duties unlike the Japanese who forced thousands of men and woman to work endlessly day in and out. Both bombs were completely justified and I don't really give a **** if you disagree or not because one million of a generation two generations ago would leave America at least ten million people less today.

And Pricey, if the US took guns away, the criminals would got their guns illegally would keep the guns and law abiding citizens would turn them in. Think about it.

False, they didn't even know an atomic bomb could exist. The atomic bomb was invented by Americans AFTER the period in which the Nazi's were defeated, so dropping a bomb on a country that had already lost a war would be pointless. People seem to forget Germany wasn't the only country in World War 2, the German's were defeated before the Japanese were, who were by the use of the atomic bomb.

At this point I said "a bomb" not an "A-Bomb", meaning any bomb. I'm sorry for was instead of were too.


realized* I'm English, therefore it is realiSed

That's like if I said I could have easily just gone to the future using a time machine that wasn't invented yet into a time where it was invented and then use that time machine to go back in time before World War 3 and destroy the plans of Australia to take over the world. Sound like bullshit? It is, just like your counterargument. How could the Soviet Union get their hands on a bomb they didn't know existed, did not exist during the time they were in war with Germany, and even contemplate using it? Think twice.

I'm sorry, In my history we learned a load of bullshit. We learned about other peoples affairs rather than our own. We learned about Russia pre 1900's. We never did any WW2 stuff in great detail. I don't know if it is true, but I have heard that Americans only learn the History of America, probably why you all think you won the wars for us.

Never have I been in that situation nor will I How do you know if you will? Can you see into the future? Unless you are going to die today, at this very moment, have no idea what-so-ever. But if by chance I was given the option to live my life or have a baby being burned to death I would choose my life. We are forced by society to have an outstanding list of morals and if not followed completely we are hated by society itself. But lets think about this for a second, your own life versus ANY other? How could it possibly be less important? Family, friends, whoever the **** it is that's going to burn to death, my life>any other. I may sound ignorant and completely absurd right now You do, and I sincerely hope you don't join the military out of respect the the people that would risk their lives for someone else's, at least in the British army they do. but if you feel that way you're the one that has been played like a fool by society, you're it's bitch. NO, I have morals. I have lived almost 19 years of my life, unlike the baby who hasn't experienced those 19 years. If you could stand there and watch it being burned to save your own ass, then you're just cold blooded. And it's even worse that you would let your own son/daughter burn seeing as those you said your life of family.

Perhaps the Japanese who enter the closed area should realize realise* that they shouldn't be stupid as **** and enter an area that is radioactive, and closed off with no sign of life in the area? Ever heard of that thing call wind? Not everyone died instantly. It took some people 5 years to die from the effects. Also Japan was a communist country, America has always been democratic. The woman of America chose to work in factories and get PAID for their duties unlike the Japanese who forced thousands of men and woman to work endlessly day in and out. Exactly, even if the American woman CHOOSE to work there, then they are worse of than the Japanese who you said were FORCED to work there, therefore the Japanese were more innocent than the Americans. Both bombs were completely justified No they weren't, and you're just ignorant not to think any other way about it. You've been brainwashed by society, so you're it's bitch. and I don't really give a **** if you disagree or not I do disagree, so it shouldn't bother you. because one million of a generation two generations ago would leave America at least ten million people less today.

So let me get this straight...we went to war with Iraq just because we are a little low on oil? Think again. September 11th, 2001. A day that will live in Infamy. That is the day where this "country that we went to war over oil with" Sent a group of men that hijacked four airplanes and attacked our soil, That's what you have been told to believe. You're government doesn't just stop at the president. He will take orders from higher people. If they wanted to go to war, they could have made a reason happen to go to war (in this case WTC.)Whether or not they did fix it, or it was a real hijacking, nobody will know except the people who organised the war and i don't want to start conspiracies. Yes, I agree, at the time it was justified, but you was quick to point the finger at Iraq who " holds more than 112 billion barrels of oil - the world's second largest proven reserves. Iraq also contains 110 trillion cubic feet of natural gas, and is a focal point for regional and international security issues." taken from You must login or register to view this content.. That is one MASSIVE coincidence, no? The people who attack you also have the second largest oil reserve in the world. You found Saddam and you're still their. You won that battle. taking over 2000 lives with them. Now, I understand if this were Britain, you guys would sit around and say "whatever" I have no Idea what would happen. But we did get attacked. The London Tube bombing ring any bell? Or did you not receive it on your new because it's not to do with America. but her in America, if some jackass piece of shit country decides they are gonna attack us, they better be ready to put up a damn good fight so that they still have some dignity left after we kick their asses. Do I think we should still be in Iraq? No, but I do know damn well we were (at the time) justified to Invade their country. After we realized that the reason this group could attack us was because a Psychotic man was controlling have the the country, we decided we were going to prevent that from happening by removing him. Now there's one left, and we're still looking for him. That's why we are still in Iraq. Osama is in Afghanistan. You have no reason to be in Iraq. The British have pulled out exept for a remaining few helping you guys train the Iraqi forces. You guys weren't attacked on your own soil, Again, the London Tube bombings. It didn't kill as many people as the WTC but we were still attacked on our soil. MI5 stop most of the attempted attacks before they happen. If it wasn't for them, we would have been bombed shit loads of times. so you don't know what it was like. Did you lose any family members in the WTC bombings? Probably not. But lots of Americans lost family/friends/acquaintances/co-workers/etc. So think about that before saying we went to war with Iraq over oil. I did think about it. It just seems to me that America was quick to blame the finger at the country with the worlds second largest oil reserve. It wouldn't surprise me if the American government did kill all those people for a reason to go to Iraq.

I was basically trying to make a point. We'll turn over every stone in the entire God damn middle east until we find this ****er.