Post: The the Universe, its size, contents and more..
01-23-2011, 11:04 PM #1
iikCii
Banned
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For example, think of the size. First look at your phone, ipod and anything small, then compare it to the size of your house, what about the the size of your city or the world. It makes it seem tiny, we can see how big our galaxy and our neighbours, we can see just how big that is. Now think our this group of galaxy's and think of it being the size of your phone compared to the world. Then think of that being your phone, it blows your mind, there has to be some other lifeforms out there, or planets almost identical to earth, the thoughts are endless. Tell me what you think Smile

[EDIT] An interesting video I found
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_0UNes9jFg[/ame]
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01-24-2011, 02:15 PM #11
NeedaLifeSoon
Retired Life
Originally posted by E0000B6FAF25838 View Post
It's funny when you think about. Humans as a whole think highly of themselves. We're an arrogant and proud race. We think we're better than the animals on earth because we can talk. Because we have developed society. Because we have technology. But we're no different from the animals around us. Humans aren't that special at all, we have no impact in the universe. Our entire planet could be wiped of life and there would be absolutely no fallout in the universe. Because in the grand scheme of things, we're nothing.

For all we know, the universe could just be a giant atom, and the galaxies are the protons, neutrons, and electrons. The galaxies are the quarks and the solar systems would be the incomprehensible particles that make up quarks, and the planets would be the incomprehensible particles that make THOSE up, so on and so on. Time and size are subjective, so for all we know, our entire existence could be there and gone in a flash in a larger world. While at the same time, all the atoms around us could be holding similar universes, but smaller. It's daunting to think about, but we really CAN'T know. At least not yet.

The Universe we reside in is an amazing thing, and to think that we have any impact on it is an absurdly arrogant thing to say. We mean nothing to the balance of the Universe.


We are different than all the other life on our planet.

We are among a unique group of life in all the universe.

We are the dominant species on a life sustaining planet that can influence that planets ability to support life.

In the vastness of the universe there is a small percentage of life sustaining planets.
The dominate species on each is a smaller percentage.
That species ability to develop the intellegence to reconigize its place in the universe is one of the smallest groups in the whole thing.

We have a responsibilty to not screw up our place in the Universal scheme.

If we were to screw it up, that would have an impact on the universe, there are X number of species that get to where we are now and even fewer that get to advance further.
01-24-2011, 02:27 PM #12
Booshykins
Tech Enthusiast
The universe is infinite, as is knowledge.

It's quite depressing, however, that I could never possibly see all of it in its beautiful glory.
01-24-2011, 03:38 PM #13
iikCii
Banned
Was thinking about this topic today at school, and I found myself asking some questions, What is out purpose? why does it all exist, is there a meaning or are we just lucky?

Some good things in here, I saw a documentary once about the 7 most deadly ways the earth could end. What annoying me most was how it explained that humans may destroy the earth, we could potentially in the future destroy out planet, oh how people don't see what we actually have.
01-24-2011, 04:50 PM #14
xinfectedsoulx
Daddy's home.
I don't think that the brain can fully comprehend how big the universe is. How do we know that the universe isn't in something else? Such as Earth being in the Milky way, the universe could be in something else we have yet to see. How do we know that there are not many more universes making us even less insignificant than we currently believe. That's why I don't think we can fully understand everything outside of Earth.
01-24-2011, 11:45 PM #15
E0000B6FAF25838
Nikolai Reznov
Originally posted by NeedaLifeSoon View Post
We are different than all the other life on our planet.

We are among a unique group of life in all the universe.

We are the dominant species on a life sustaining planet that can influence that planets ability to support life.

In the vastness of the universe there is a small percentage of life sustaining planets.
The dominate species on each is a smaller percentage.
That species ability to develop the intellegence to reconigize its place in the universe is one of the smallest groups in the whole thing.

We have a responsibilty to not screw up our place in the Universal scheme.

If we were to screw it up, that would have an impact on the universe, there are X number of species that get to where we are now and even fewer that get to advance further.


The only thing different between humans and animals is "intelligence." This "intelligence," so named by humanity, is the ability to think rationally. This thinking rationally has caused humans to become consumed in greed. Humans take what they need, and then they keep taking. We have an instinct that tells us to hoard things, especially when those things are related to food or pleasure. Money can buy food and pleasure, therefore people hoard money. It's instinct, which makes us animals.

A dominant species is only the top species on a planet. There has to be one. It doesn't mean the top species is important, it just is the most dominant. The most over-powered. The one everyone else on the planet hates.

Just because there are few of us doesn't make us special. The lives of the creatures around us are just as precious (or as unprecious, in the scope of the universe) as ours are. We mean nothing in the universe, and your only argument that we mean something is that we're part of a low statistic. So what? Regardless of how few "goldilocks" planets we know about, assuming the Universe is infinite, there still has to be an infinite amount of them. We're not as special as you think. And we're not "lucky." If there were no life, we would not be aware, and therefore would not be missing out on anything. Since there is life, we exist. We wouldn't exist elsewhere. There is no alternative. Existence, or not, we only feel if we exist, so we only care whether or not we exist once we already exist. I can't seem to word it in a non-confusing way, sorry.

Screwing up our planet wouldn't do jack shit to the universe. Life dies out, the planet keeps spinning, and revolving around the sun. Nothing's changed in the scope of the Universe. Just a darker planet that can't even be seen from a distance.

We are uncommon, and we are different. But that doesn't make us special. We still have no influence. We are still nothing.
01-25-2011, 12:55 AM #16
NeedaLifeSoon
Retired Life
Originally posted by E0000B6FAF25838 View Post
The only thing different between humans and animals is "intelligence." This "intelligence," so named by humanity, is the ability to think rationally. This thinking rationally has caused humans to become consumed in greed. Humans take what they need, and then they keep taking. We have an instinct that tells us to hoard things, especially when those things are related to food or pleasure. Money can buy food and pleasure, therefore people hoard money. It's instinct, which makes us animals.

A dominant species is only the top species on a planet. There has to be one. It doesn't mean the top species is important, it just is the most dominant. The most over-powered. The one everyone else on the planet hates.

Just because there are few of us doesn't make us special. The lives of the creatures around us are just as precious (or as unprecious, in the scope of the universe) as ours are. We mean nothing in the universe, and your only argument that we mean something is that we're part of a low statistic. So what? Regardless of how few "goldilocks" planets we know about, assuming the Universe is infinite, there still has to be an infinite amount of them. We're not as special as you think. And we're not "lucky." If there were no life, we would not be aware, and therefore would not be missing out on anything. Since there is life, we exist. We wouldn't exist elsewhere. There is no alternative. Existence, or not, we only feel if we exist, so we only care whether or not we exist once we already exist. I can't seem to word it in a non-confusing way, sorry.

Screwing up our planet wouldn't do jack shit to the universe. Life dies out, the planet keeps spinning, and revolving around the sun. Nothing's changed in the scope of the Universe. Just a darker planet that can't even be seen from a distance.

We are uncommon, and we are different. But that doesn't make us special. We still have no influence. We are still nothing.


What a incredibly pessimistc view of humanity.
And where did I say that we should not value the other life on earth.
I said we have a responsibilty to preserve all life and not destroy the earths ability to sustain it.

Other life in the universe is an unknown.
There is statistical probabilty that it exists elsewhere, but for eons to come it is all we have and that makes us responsible and special to life here. We are the only ones that understand all the implications of life on Earth.

We are the stewards of life on this planet and it is about time we start acting like it.

Unless you are suggesting that all of humanity should die because the rest of life here hates us, or say F*ck it all there is plenty of other life in the universe.
01-25-2011, 04:34 AM #17
E0000B6FAF25838
Nikolai Reznov
Originally posted by NeedaLifeSoon View Post
What a incredibly pessimistc view of humanity.
And where did I say that we should not value the other life on earth.
I said we have a responsibilty to preserve all life and not destroy the earths ability to sustain it.

Other life in the universe is an unknown.
There is statistical probabilty that it exists elsewhere, but for eons to come it is all we have and that makes us responsible and special to life here. We are the only ones that understand all the implications of life on Earth.

We are the stewards of life on this planet and it is about time we start acting like it.

Unless you are suggesting that all of humanity should die because the rest of life here hates us, or say F*ck it all there is plenty of other life in the universe.


What can I say? I'm a pessimistic guy.

I never meant to imply that you gave the impression that other life was invaluable. I just meant to say that our lives are only as valuable as the lives around us. No more. Actually, in a sense, seeing as how we only pollute and destroy, human life is actually worth LESS than the lives of the animals around us. We have no purpose in the life cycle other than to make animals extinct and destroy habitats. We're the out-lier that makes life difficult for all the other species. I guess in that aspect, we are unique.

By merely existing we are threatening the earth's delicate balance. If we TRULY wanted to preserve it, we would all kill ourselves. But that's too dark a solution, even for me.

To claim that other life in the universe is only a statistical probability is an incredibly arrogant statement. Assuming our universe is infinite, there are an infinite amount of planets in it. To say earth is the only planet out of an infinite amount of planets to support intelligent life is proud and ignorant. While you did not say this outright, it was still an implied possibility.

We are the destroyers of life on this planet. We are a parasite that serves no purpose other than to suck the resources out of the earth and pump harmful chemicals back in their place. This is what humanity has become. It wasn't always like this, at one time we lived with the animals, acknowledging that we were no better than them, and were an active part of nature's cycle. But we grew proud and thus removed ourselves from this "savage" and "uncivilized" world. While I can't deny that I thrive on the technology that we have created, it is impossible to deny that this evolution of "intelligence" has only caused harm the the earth. We are the harbingers of death. Not the "stewards of life."

We have completely thrown off the balance of the earth. The only way I could see it reverting to normal would be if all humans collectively reverted to old ways. At this point, we have grown lazy and proud as a whole, which would mean that a movement like this would be impossible. Humans would have to do an honest day's work in order to live. They would need to give up their pride and get down in the dirt.

I'm not saying we should just give up, I'm just saying that it's arrogant to think that we could possibly have ANY impact in the universe whatsoever. We are literally nothing compared to the vastness of the universe. And no matter how evil we are, no matter how much damage we cause to the earth, the universe will just keep on as it always has. We are merely a passing instant in the eyes of the universe.
01-26-2011, 11:28 PM #18
xZLx_
Haxor!
I agree, i think there are planets out there just like Earth! But for the size of the universe hmm, i think its growing all the time, or is it? Its something we will never find out (or at this stage in life anyway) If you come to the end of the Universe what would it be like Gasp? Hitting a brick wall maybe? Nobody knows.


- xZLx
01-27-2011, 12:57 AM #19
Shepleklet
u mad cuz ur ***git
Originally posted by lolwhut View Post
Tell me you didn't take that from a modest mouse song...haha


3rd Planet? Awesome song :p

But, in relation to this thread, I just think it's incredible how some people think that we're the only 'intelligent' - and I use that word loosely - life in the Universe.

There are approximately 200,000,000,000 (two hundred-billion) galaxies in the Universe, each with about 300,000,000,000 (three hundred-billion) stars in.
I'm not going to lie, that's a **** load of potential Goldilocks planets :p

And that's just in one Universe, I can't even fathom the possibilities of if we consider the Multiverse theory!

Also, if there are INFINITE parallel Universes, that means that there IS a Universe which harbours life on every single planet EXCEPT the Earth. That's pretty cool :p

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