Post: The the Universe, its size, contents and more..
01-23-2011, 11:04 PM #1
iikCii
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For example, think of the size. First look at your phone, ipod and anything small, then compare it to the size of your house, what about the the size of your city or the world. It makes it seem tiny, we can see how big our galaxy and our neighbours, we can see just how big that is. Now think our this group of galaxy's and think of it being the size of your phone compared to the world. Then think of that being your phone, it blows your mind, there has to be some other lifeforms out there, or planets almost identical to earth, the thoughts are endless. Tell me what you think Smile

[EDIT] An interesting video I found
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millapepe
01-30-2011, 11:33 PM #56
S e t h
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I'm not gonna lie thats pretty crazy... shows us how small we really are.. Aliens have to be real 100% sure
01-31-2011, 12:36 AM #57
E0000B6FAF25838
Nikolai Reznov
Originally posted by cookies420 View Post
My uncle was a ladies man, and always would have a girl with him, one night he was driving and saw a girl and she needed a ride, so he gave it to her, he kept talking and talking and she didnt say a word and he turned and he saw the devil, he was so scared and then he trurned again and she was gone. My family thinks the devil was teching him a lesson.

As for my cousin, how could that be a halluiation, theres no way that is a halluiation.

As for my cousin and uncle, we have an old house but its a good house and the steps do creak but we KNOW THE DIFFERENCE, he said it sounded like an EXPLOSIOVE of dishes as where you place the glass and dishes are on a shelf and theres alot and it sounded like they all fell. My cousin never told my uncle until my uncle said something

Theres an angel watching over them because it was a house of 13 kids and the parents were in the US. So many shit went down that my whole family is being watched. Mexico is the ground where I believe most the supernatural happens.


These are all subjective experiences, there is no proof that any of this has happened. Hallucinations, dreams, nightmares, lucid dreams, mistaken interpretation, etc. are all possible explanations of stories that have absolutely no proof. There is no documented case of paranormal activity that can't be explained as something else.


Originally posted by another user
I mean sidekicks, and witchcraft , each are different yet the same


I think you have a word mix-up here, the word "sidekicks" doesn't have anything to do with witchcraft as far as I know, but that's beside the point.

Witchcraft is a silly concept that was invented to explain why certain people in society were different. The Salem witch trials are examples of what happens when you take witchcraft too seriously.

Originally posted by another user
Human came from humans, WE DID NOT COME FROM MONKEYS. Anyone that thinks that needs to go back to the books.


You're right, we did not come from monkeys, but monkeys and humans evolved from a common ancestor, primates and humans are just 2 different evolutionary paths of this ancestor.

Originally posted by another user
Remember what I said that theres things that are in the universe but arent in the laws of it. That goes for humans going extinct. We can't and we wont, we are being protected somehow


You said that humans won't go extinct because they are protected by the laws of the universe, and now you're saying that they're not protected by the laws of the universe, but they're being protected by some other unseen force.

There is nothing to suggest this. At all. There is absolutely no reason to believe this, this has not been documented anywhere, not even the bible, and it just plain doesn't make sense. Is there any evidence (aside from our existence) that this is true?

Originally posted by another user
Also for the supernatural there are many other FILMED instances where it does happen.


If solid, undeniable, inexplicable evidence of the supernatural was ever captured on film, it would have been widely publicized and it would have revolutionized our entire outlook on science.

Originally posted by another user
I believe in science and superstition because Im open minded and im not ignorant.


You believe in science? You don't believe in evolution, you ignore the laws of the universe, you add your own laws to the universe, you claim we're invincible, and you don't believe in other intelligent life. Somehow, I don't you're as into science as you think you are.
01-31-2011, 02:40 AM #58
elfmotat
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Originally posted by E0000B6FAF25838 View Post
Fair enough, as I don't know jack about quantum mechanics, however, wouldn't that mean that your previous statement,

"Wrong. Absolutely, 100% wrong. EVERYTHING is a case of probability,"

would be incorrect? While it may be true that events on a quantum scale are governed by probability, events on a macroscopic scale are not. Meaning that not EVERYTHING is a case of probability, but that everything at a quantum scale is. Since we only experience things at a macroscopic scale, it would be true that it would be impossible for us to encounter truly random events. So my original statement may have been a bit all-encompassing, but yours was, too.


Everything IS a case of probability. We don't notice because at large scales the effect is essentially negligible, however it is still there nonetheless.
01-31-2011, 03:01 AM #59
E0000B6FAF25838
Nikolai Reznov
Originally posted by elfmotat View Post
Everything IS a case of probability. We don't notice because at large scales the effect is essentially negligible, however it is still there nonetheless.


Probability at a quantum scale can't affect things like dice rolls, coin flips, card games, or any other demonstration of probability from our perspective. Sure, a particle may be sent to a far off planet or to the depths of space, but that wouldn't affect the outcome of the dice roll. There is an extremely low chance of the die dematerializing altogether and then rematerializing in a different position, but the odds of that happening are beyond minuscule, and unless something like that happened, nothing at our scale can be affected to any noticeable extent by probability at a quantum scale.
01-31-2011, 03:08 AM #60
Originally posted by E0000B6FAF25838 View Post
These are all subjective experiences, there is no proof that any of this has happened. Hallucinations, dreams, nightmares, lucid dreams, mistaken interpretation, etc. are all possible explanations of stories that have absolutely no proof. There is no documented case of paranormal activity that can't be explained as something else.




I think you have a word mix-up here, the word "sidekicks" doesn't have anything to do with witchcraft as far as I know, but that's beside the point.

Witchcraft is a silly concept that was invented to explain why certain people in society were different. The Salem witch trials are examples of what happens when you take witchcraft too seriously.



You're right, we did not come from monkeys, but monkeys and humans evolved from a common ancestor, primates and humans are just 2 different evolutionary paths of this ancestor.



You said that humans won't go extinct because they are protected by the laws of the universe, and now you're saying that they're not protected by the laws of the universe, but they're being protected by some other unseen force.

There is nothing to suggest this. At all. There is absolutely no reason to believe this, this has not been documented anywhere, not even the bible, and it just plain doesn't make sense. Is there any evidence (aside from our existence) that this is true?



If solid, undeniable, inexplicable evidence of the supernatural was ever captured on film, it would have been widely publicized and it would have revolutionized our entire outlook on science.



You believe in science? You don't believe in evolution, you ignore the laws of the universe, you add your own laws to the universe, you claim we're invincible, and you don't believe in other intelligent life. Somehow, I don't you're as into science as you think you are.

I know the type of person you are now. You have stand by science no matter what. You dont realize whats right in front of your eyes. You deny it and try to back it up with science.

Supernatural is classified in a different catorgory than science as they can't be explained.

You don't know that there is other intelligent life on another planet and I don't know either. Theres a huge possiblity there is life on another planet. Theres alos a possiblity there is intelligent life too. But also you know that anytime our planet can get massive damage of giant space objects that can enter our atmosphere and do some big damage at any time of day(I do know we get alot of objects that burn up all the time). The thing is it doesnt. I can bet that even planets in the goldilocks zone that can support life are bombarded all the time with giants asteriods or other space objects. We are being protected. You can't prove that we arent but you cant prove we are.

When you disagree with everything Im saying you are being ignorant and useing science to cover something that you think you are but in reality you arent. Im not a sciencetist but I do watch alot of history channel and supernova like I said, and I watch many movie and documentarys on all these subjects we have talked about. Your smart, I cant deny thats because you are but you are blinded by your own brain and you can't relize it and you won't.
01-31-2011, 04:30 AM #61
E0000B6FAF25838
Nikolai Reznov
Originally posted by cookies420 View Post
I know the type of person you are now. You have stand by science no matter what. You dont realize whats right in front of your eyes. You deny it and try to back it up with science.


I don't stand by science, I stand by the evidence that is presented to me. If I personally experience an event that is undeniably supernatural, I'll believe it. If there is solid evidence presented by a reputable source supporting the supernatural, I'll probably believe it. But as it stands now, I don't believe in souls, as there is no evidence to support souls and the idea of having souls easily fits in with man's fear of the unknown, which is what spawned religion.

Religion is just man's attempt to explain what we can't explain, which is what science does, except science actually explains things with evidence, proof, and experimentation, not by blindly believing whatever is put in their face.

I apologize if I may have come across as ignorant, however, I do not blindly believe or follow anything. I was raised a Christian and after about half a year of serious thought, I finally cast aside all my religious beliefs, because that's what I felt made the most sense. I see no evidence of a God, no evidence of an afterlife, no evidence of souls, and no evidence at all backing organized religion. I still sometimes cringe at the thought of nothing after death, but I assure you that I truly believe it with all my heart and I resent the fact that you think you can label me after about 6 posts. Everyone has a different story and it's not right to assume that you can toss people into a category like that.

Originally posted by another user
Supernatural is classified in a different catorgory than science as they can't be explained.


Once again I will say that there is no solid proof of supernatural activity. The only things that exist that support it are stories from a human's viewpoint. Humans are quick to jump to conclusions, and those conclusions are based on their beliefs or fears. If someone believes in or is afraid of the supernatural, it is likely for them to interpret experiences as supernatural. If someone has a more scientific view on life, it is likely that they will try to explain it with something that can be backed by evidence.

Since as far back as we can trace civilization, humans have tried to explain the world around them. Many of these civilizations used Gods to explain the phenomena of everyday life. A sun god to explain the patterns of the sun, a rain god to explain why it rains, a volcano god to explain why volcanoes erupt, a thunder god to explain thunder, etc.

However we now know that the sun behaves as it does due to the earth's rotation. There is evidence of this. We know that it rains due to evaporation and condensation. There is evidence of this. We know volcanoes erupt due to tectonic activity. There is evidence of this. We know thunder occurs because the friction between hot air and cold air makes a loud noise. There is evidence of this.

These beliefs were the equivalent of Christianity's and Catholicism's monotheistic views. We have explained many of the old unknowns, and now view polytheistic religions as silly, or dismiss-able. But there are a few unknowns that keep religion lingering: What happens after death and why are we here. Science has explained both of these things, however people still cling to their religious beliefs? Why? Maybe they're too scared to accept the truth. Maybe they're too scared to admit that a lot of what they learned about life was a lie. Maybe they're not sure why they believe what they believe in the first place. I don't know. Everyone has a different story.

Originally posted by another user
You don't know that there is other intelligent life on another planet and I don't know either. Theres a huge possiblity there is life on another planet. Theres alos a possiblity there is intelligent life too.


With as many planets in the universe as there are that can support life, claiming we are the only ones that are intelligent is arrogant and ignorant, however, as there is no solid proof of other intelligent life, I suppose I can't do anything to convince you.

Originally posted by another user
But also you know that anytime our planet can get massive damage of giant space objects that can enter our atmosphere and do some big damage at any time of day(I do know we get alot of objects that burn up all the time). The thing is it doesnt. I can bet that even planets in the goldilocks zone that can support life are bombarded all the time with giants asteriods or other space objects. We are being protected. You can't prove that we arent but you cant prove we are.


And at any time it's possible to materialize on Mars, but it's not likely. With the innumerable amount of planets in this universe it's a wonder that anything manages to hit us in the first place. It's incredibly unlikely for earth to get hit by a large asteroid or other space rock, as there are so many huge bodies in the universe around us that exhibit massive gravitational pulls, that tiny spec like us has practically no chance of getting hit by anything. There is nothing to suggest we're being protected by anything. We just haven't gotten hit in a while. You need evidence of a phenomena before you can rightfully ask someone to prove it doesn't exist.

Originally posted by another user
When you disagree with everything Im saying you are being ignorant and useing science to cover something that you think you are but in reality you arent. Im not a sciencetist but I do watch alot of history channel and supernova like I said, and I watch many movie and documentarys on all these subjects we have talked about. Your smart, I cant deny thats because you are but you are blinded by your own brain and you can't relize it and you won't.


We are alike in our ignorance. Both of our arguments are just whizzing by the other, not affecting our beliefs at all, and if you can't see that, you must be blind. I may be blinded by my brain, but in that respect you are blinded by your faith. An argument will get us nowhere, as this will just continue to go on in circles. Instead of cluttering up the forum with more of our bickering, I am putting it to a stop here. I do not wish to argue with you further and as such, I bid you a good day.

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02-03-2011, 01:26 AM #62
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u mad cuz ur ***git
Bump. This thread is way too interesting to be lost in the masses of generic threads about masturbation, weed and Treyarch.

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