(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Thought I would start a thread on the universe, a pretty big topic if you stop and think about it.

For example, think of the size. First look at your phone, ipod and anything small, then compare it to the size of your house, what about the the size of your city or the world. It makes it seem tiny, we can see how big our galaxy and our neighbours, we can see just how big that is. Now think our this group of galaxy's and think of it being the size of your phone compared to the world. Then think of that being your phone, it blows your mind, there has to be some other lifeforms out there, or planets almost identical to earth, the thoughts are endless. Tell me what you think

[EDIT] An interesting video I found
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i think if you keep walking street you will eventully end up in the same spot.

The most fundamental particles in the universe are NOT deterministic. If they are not deterministic then neither is anything constructed from them. At small scales everything is a case of probability. No event can be predicted with absolute certainty.

Probability is an illusion. If I have a bag with a white marble and a black marble in it, the probability of me pulling out a white marble is 1 in 2. However, I can just as easily pull a white marble out, put it back in, and pull the same marble out again. The odds of that are 1 in 4. However, regardless of the probability of doing something, it is still possible to do it. The odds of pulling a white marble out of the bag multiple times in a row are 1 in 2^x (where x = number of times you draw a marble). The odds of doing it 13 times in a row would be 1 in 8192, but it's still possible. Probability has no bearing on anything, so your statement should have been "At small scales nothing is certain," as nothing is a case of probability.

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I did some research on this experiment, and I think you'll find it interesting to know that the findings were never reproduced, the data were unreliable, and the weight of the soul was the only possibility the scientist could think of. The amount of debunking on this is too much to copy/paste here, so I'll give you the link to the article I found.

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Everyone has some stories regarding unexplained phenomena, for instance, one time my sister had a dream that the door to her room wouldn't open. That same night I had a dream that I was holding her door shut. Does this mean we have psychic powers? No, it's a coincidence. People are quick to jump to the most exciting possibility, and therefore tend to overlook small details that could easily explain the real cause.



Actually, the universe is more like 46 BILLION light years big. And that's only what we can see from earth. Why are we meant to think we are alone? We weren't "meant" to think we are alone, we used to think we are alone, but now we are pretty sure we aren't. Such a small chance of other intelligent life? It is estimated that there are about 100 billion galaxies in the observable universe and you think that it's a small chance of other intelligent life? What is it that makes this planet so special? There have to be millions of other planets in this universe that are in the goldilocks zone, why is it so hard to believe that intelligent life has developed elsewhere?



Nothing happened with the moon because there are no resources there. Humans are fueled by greed, and if an endeavor is expensive, difficult, and time consuming, they would only undertake it if they were going to gain something from it. Mars on the other hand may have some resources we can use. Even if NASA goes down, there are privately funded space organizations (not to mention space organizations from other countries) that will continue to explore space.



Obviously you underestimate the destructive potential of mankind and the fragility of humanity. This is the type of mindset that leads to wars. We aren't invincible. Radiation doesn't discriminate. Being human doesn't mean we'll last longer than any other type of animal. Being human just means we are the most likely to kill each other.



I'm looking at the scope of the ****ing universe, you're still on earth. Who's the one not looking at the bigger picture?

Elaborate please. I don't quite understand what you are saying. I understand your logic that by causation everything can be traced back to the building blocks of the universe, however what is not deterministic about these particles? Certain properties about them are inconstant yes, but the particles themselves are constant entities no?

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Ok...there are so many things I want to point out about this post. I don't want to be inflammatory so please don't talk this in an offensive way, merely arguing your opinions.



Animals can also think, feel, and communicate, this is proven. Animals have their own societies which are arguably more functional than human society as they peacefully co-exists with their environment rather than destroy it like humans. As for souls, scientific proof is required to make a statement like that. If there is any logical/scientific proof for the existence of the soul beyond a stream of consciousness generated by the mind, please point it out to me. I don't buy the 21 grams stuff as someone else has already pointed out it's flaws and I don't think I need to restate why.

Much of your statements, especially about the higher power is based on pure speculation without evidence to support it. So I'm not going to get into that.

I'm going to skip your second point about the relation of the Earth to the stars as well, since other people have stated how common "goldilock planets" actually are.



Uhh, the human race definitely has the power to make ourselves extinct, in fact by the way we're going we WILL be extinct sometime in the near future. We definitely DO have enough nukes to blow us all up, but a more realistic ending would be overpopulation. We respond currently to starvation by increasing food supply, which leads to an increased population demanding more food, it's a never ending cycle.

There are only a certain amount of natural resources in the world, and biologically speaking humans have eradicated all the natural population checkers placed by nature using technology, this means we will simply grow and grow until eventually the ecosystem can just no longer support us and it collapses, then we either die or more on to somewhere else. In this way we are almost like the virus of the world.




As someone else said, way bigger. The universe is infinite and is still expanding, and it will continue to do so until the "big chill" occurs and creates a "dead" universe. I agree that we will never explore all of it, but never "meant" to be? C'mon, don't pull that stuff, again making claims without any evidence. The meaning of human life and why we exist is non-existent, we weren't meant to do ANYTHING. Biologically speaking, our only purpose is to continue our existence, that is the only possibly relevent meaning for life, but even so it is a pointless circular thing, if we cease to exist it really won't matter anyways.

Thats like the most amazing thing ive read in a while :mudkip:
Your soo right. Its so crazy thinking about it. And i love your whole example with the protons, neutrons, and quarkss! haha i remember learning that stuff last year!!

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Oh mann, haha thats so surprisingly true! ive never thought about it like that.

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First off dreams have nothing to do with supernatural. Thats all the state of mind. If you want to here a story I have Ill tell you but it takes awhile to write. Heres the supernatural of two of many sptroys I have, My uncle saw the devil and my mom went into another world (like same place no people real life people with her)

Accually the universe is 13.7 billion light years big not 47 billion years. Its very hard to believe that intellegent life exists as we have millions of species on earth and WE are the only one that is intelligent. Goldilocks zone just means the conditions are right to support life. We can barly have our radio signal read 2 light years let along travel 2 light years.

We have many parts of the moon unexplored as we cant stay long on the moon as you will get exposed to too much radiation without an atmosphere. It takes 3 days to get to the moon and it takes 130 days fastest to get to mars and thats when earth and mars are closest. The closest star is 2 light years away. At this point we will never reach there especially when a rocket going 200,000 miles an hour takes 10 years to get to pluto.

Im not saying mankind can't destroy each other and we can definallty wipe out big chucks of our population but no matter what we do you can never extinct our race.

You are not looking at the bigger picture because all you looking at is the universe, expand your mind greater than that

Bro it's hard to believe anything you say when you dont give proof.
1) You said the universe is 13.7 billion light years big. Ermmm, im not sure who told you that? Was it a supernatural spirit?

E0000B6FAF25838 IS RIGHT: The very edge of the visible universe is now about 47 billion light years. And You must login or register to view this content. your proof.

2) Your ONE sentence about the supenatural is pointless. Could you maybe elaborate?

3)Your last bit made me laugh. Of course we can end the human race. You must login or register to view this content.. Theres loads of possibilities.

Sorry for arguing Its just that this is in the debate section, so might as well.

Lets say I watch alot of history channel and super nova, As for the supernatural like I said I can't explain it or show prove but they happened to me minor but pretty crazy to my family. Also wikipedia is a horrible source. You can go to the right and edit what ever you want, if it sounds right then it goes through. Just because something sounds right doesn't make it true

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Experiences like that can be explained away as vivid hallucinations. There is no evidence that what they saw was real. It may have been real to them, real in their minds, but not in what others perceive as reality. I just mentioned the dreams because it was an odd experience that could be explained with a coincidence.



Wrong.



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We are the only intelligent lifeforms on earth because we are the dominant lifeforms. We don't give other lifeforms the chance to grow and learn before we kill them off. There are some that are able to escape our reach, but they are confined to small or empty areas if we can't get to them. Actually, it's quite likely that the dominant species of each planets has developed intelligence if you think about it.



It doesn't matter the obstacle, human kind WILL NOT stop until it gets what it wants, regardless of how long it has to work for it. Space exploration (and development for that matter) will continue to take place until we've been wiped out.



This is just plain ignorance, if the last of a specific gender dies, we are extinct. People can be killed easily. So there's no reason that we couldn't make ourselves extinct.



The universe contains everything. Unless you're talking about parallel realities, but I really don't see how those apply. You should be telling me to narrow my view, because you still only really talk about earth and objects close to it. There's nothing else that you brought up that I haven't already looked at. Paranormal, earth, humanity, moon, mars, size of the universe, parallel realities, etc.