Post: Should Human Cloning be allowed?
02-10-2011, 05:24 AM #1
dPaws
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I don't, due to your remake a copy of a human that is already living or have lived at one point, they would be in constant pain wouldn't they. "Mentally"
That's my reasoning.
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02-10-2011, 11:28 PM #11
lolwhut
Do a barrel roll!
Originally posted by Clutch
If there's no afterlife then what does "cheating death" matter? Death is just a part of nature, all you'd be doing is sustaining your own quite frankly pointless life- when compared with the overall scale of things.

That's just always how I've seen it- if there really is no afterlife of any sort then all these morals and feelings we have don't really matter.

Saying it like that does come across as extremely blunt and really an unpleasant thought at first, but just give it a thought and you'll see what I mean. It's really all just very pointless(this makes it sound like I'm depressed, it's not supposed to come across that way lol :mudkipSmile.


Moral values are irrelevent in the sense that we regard them as right and wrong, right and wrong are subjective and opinionated, however moral values are generally a set of values that help a society stay functional.

That being said, cloning would be very unlikely to produce a positive result in society, we can copy genes but not personal experience, a person's identity is made up of both genes and environment, so even if you cloned someone like Albert Einstein, it's very unlikely that he will come back and be anything like the Albert Einstein back then.
02-10-2011, 11:34 PM #12
Originally posted by lolwhut View Post
Moral values are irrelevent in the sense that we regard them as right and wrong, right and wrong are subjective and opinionated, however moral values are generally a set of values that help a society stay functional.

That being said, cloning would be very unlikely to produce a positive result in society, we can copy genes but not personal experience, a person's identity is made up of both genes and environment, so even if you cloned someone like Albert Einstein, it's very unlikely that he will come back and be anything like the Albert Einstein back then.


I'm not heavily into science but surely you could just clone a guy exactly as he is, keeping all his memories and his decision-making etc. in tact? As difficult as that might be surely it's possible?
02-11-2011, 01:54 AM #13
lolwhut
Do a barrel roll!
Originally posted by Clutch
I'm not heavily into science but surely you could just clone a guy exactly as he is, keeping all his memories and his decision-making etc. in tact? As difficult as that might be surely it's possible?


So far, no. Cloning so far is basically copying the organism's DNA, we don't have anywhere NEAR the technology necessary to somehow duplicate the organism's brain and replant it into a cloned version. Memories are from the brain, and decision making capabilities come from a combination of genetics and past experience, the experience is impossible to transplant.
02-11-2011, 01:56 AM #14
Originally posted by lolwhut View Post
So far, no. Cloning so far is basically copying the organism's DNA, we don't have anywhere NEAR the technology necessary to somehow duplicate the organism's brain and replant it into a cloned version. Memories are from the brain, and decision making capabilities come from a combination of genetics and past experience, the experience is impossible to transplant.


But surely an enormously advanced alien civilisation in theory would have figured this out? All I'm asking is if it's possible, not whether we can do it yet ourselves or not Smile
02-11-2011, 02:39 PM #15
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02-11-2011, 04:14 PM #16
dPaws
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Originally posted by CrAzY
Yes, so I can level up twice as fast in BO
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Originally posted by Clutch
But surely an enormously advanced alien civilisation in theory would have figured this out? All I'm asking is if it's possible, not whether we can do it yet ourselves or not Smile

Its possible to clone, remember the Sheep "Dolly"
If not read it up, the first animal to ever be cloned and I think the first creature in general.
02-12-2011, 05:37 AM #17
BB_AjB
Haxor!
Yes it is possible to clone but the fact is that not much people have searched into it because of laws and such in certain countries.

For example a team is gathering in Japan right now to clone a baby mammoth! What they are going to do is take mammoth dna and get a fetus together and plant it into a female elephant.

Now this actual project interests me because of the chance to see mammoths alive in this time period but I find it a little immoral.
02-12-2011, 05:46 PM #18
Originally posted by AjB View Post
Yes it is possible to clone but the fact is that not much people have searched into it because of laws and such in certain countries.

For example a team is gathering in Japan right now to clone a baby mammoth! What they are going to do is take mammoth dna and get a fetus together and plant it into a female elephant.

Now this actual project interests me because of the chance to see mammoths alive in this time period but I find it a little immoral.


What's immoral about cloning? I don't see anything wrong with it at all....
02-12-2011, 07:34 PM #19
Italy
Little One
This happens all the time in Star Wars.

I guess it could be used for Millitary purposes. <_<

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