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I don't, due to your remake a copy of a human that is already living or have lived at one point, they would be in constant pain wouldn't they. "Mentally"
That's my reasoning.

i dont care they are not me

With the new frontier set as genetics. I believe we will be able to simply modify our genetics to what we want. We'll be able to create a superhuman with all the qualities that are desirable and/or acceptable to society.

If we can genetically alter ourselves, we won't need others' organs, we can keep renewing ourselves and live to be 200+ years old. This of course is way out there in the future, but I'm also certain it will happen at some point.

How is this different than slavery?

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I don't think 200 years old, but we will become very resistant to diseases, and stronger both intellectually and strength. With the fact we have mapped out our genetics, it is one step closer.

My argument is, if it is a human clone, will it be considered a human or a clone? Will it have rights?

There was a statement of using it as an organ factory. Every time an organ is needed, a clone will have to die.

Clones should have rights, therefore the idea of an organ factory is pointless.

Like I stated earlier, clones are pointless.

Ok I only read the first page but I don't think you guys know what cloning is....
First how do you clone some one? Well, what they do is they take the male reproductive cell the sperm, and put it with a modified ovum, the ovum has been modified in that ALL the genes from the woman have been taken out, therefore only the man's genes are left. I'm not sure but I think it can work the other way around too... any ways, so they empregnate the woman and as per usual 9 months later she gives birth to, well, you!
But it's not you. it's just an exact copy of you, but still original... if that makes sense.
cloning isn't some super sci-fi experiment, its just that^
The clone has all the genes and dna that you would... it would have the same fingerprint and eyes and what not... also the same interests and beliefs(although that is debatable) so therefore, even if he knew he was 'just a copy', which is rediculous because its just another human being with your genes, he wouldn't care or would be fine with it because YOU decided to clone yourself and are therefore OK with cloning, and so should your clone.
Also cloning doesn't draw out your own life, you can be and almost always are still alive if you clone yourself, so the mental pain argument is invalid and so is the drawn out life thing... whatever, I'm all for cloning. I'll read the rest of the thread and then edit my post afterwards.
I apoligize if some one already made this post xD

EDIT: Ok some of the posts made DO mention that it's really just birth and no different from any other childbirth. In addition to what I said earlier, this is sort of like envitro fertilization (spelling?) because it uses the same process except with the modified lady parts hehe
To reply to a few comments on the matter:


Then i guess we should all stop having sex
I heard that really serious christians do not ever use condoms because it is against god's will. If you don't, then you are creating life which is as you say: "playing god"



This is a really good point... and if evolution weren't already in the crapper I'd totally agree with you and switch sides... but in the contemporary society human beings have made, the need to evolve at all has vanished because we treat all humans as equal, the stupid ones have just as much chance of survival as the highly intelligent ones, and the weak have just as much chance to survive as the strong... therefore no evolution happens anyway


Not quite, It would not be immortality because it's just a copy... that's like saying all bacteria everywhere are immortal, which is clearly not the case. Immortality would define a person living forever, which can only be done if he is immune to every fatal illness AND develops (somehow) the ability to replace cells just as quickly as they are lost. As humans age, the ability to replicate the interior cells diminishes and eventually it cannot keep up with the rate at which it's losing cells. This phenomenon is similar to a collapsing star. In Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History of Time", he states that pauli's exclusion principle causes repulsion inside the star. The exclusion principle is that two particles cannot be at the same position and have the same velocity. So, as a star condenses by the force of gravity, the particles within the star become closer together. The closer these particles are, the more different their velocities must be. So as the star condenses further, the differences in velocities and therefore the repulsion, becomes greater
and the star returns to normal.
Below a certain critical mass (named the "Chandrasekhar limit"), the star the particles can no longer speed up (because of the limiting speed of light) so therefore the star can no longer expand, so the expansion cannot keep up with the condensing caused by gravity, This causes the star to collapse or settle into a state known as a "white dwarf", a super-dense star.



I don't understand... what are you trying to say?




ok I'd reply to some others but most of the others were posted a long time ago

so whats a clone for ? you pay for it if you dont pay no living? they should be thankful

I support cloning, ethics are a waste of time.
Is it ethical to ignore potential cures for many diseases and let people die.

No, that is why we research cures. Ethics keep our society stable. If there were none, many people would go crazy. To me its like religion keeping people in check.

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That is my point. The best you could do is keep intellectuals keep having an effect on the world.


Thankful and slavery are two different things. That is like saying I should work for my parents forever because they brought me into the world. It isn't how our society functions. Slavery has ended because it is immoral to todays standards.