Post: Gays born that way?
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04-14-2011, 11:50 PM
#1
Norman
NORMAN
05-12-2011, 11:44 PM
#83
juddylovespizza
I'VE GOT JUNGLE FEVER
05-12-2011, 11:54 PM
#84
Booshykins
Tech Enthusiast
Also, with pedophiles, necrophiliacs, and people in to bestiality, you have to remember that there are still genders within those sexual "perversions".
If an old pedophile prays on only little boys, he would still be considered a homosexual. If an old woman prayed on little boys and girls, she'd still be considered bisexual. (Not limiting pedophiles to old individuals, btw. It just seems to be the mutual societal assumption that all pedophiles are in their 40s+.)
Forgive the seemingly graphic example, but it's just there to prove a point.
If an old pedophile prays on only little boys, he would still be considered a homosexual. If an old woman prayed on little boys and girls, she'd still be considered bisexual. (Not limiting pedophiles to old individuals, btw. It just seems to be the mutual societal assumption that all pedophiles are in their 40s+.)
Forgive the seemingly graphic example, but it's just there to prove a point.
05-14-2011, 10:23 PM
#85
TimeShin
Haxor!
Originally posted by Sterling
I don't see how it can't be the same way with heterosexuality. The whole "instinct" thing won't work, either; male giraffes, foxes, penguins and over 1,500 different species of other animals **** each other.
I still think it has to do with hormones, because considering what people think about psychology pertaining to animals, we think it to be impossible. But since it's obviously not, as it occurs quite frequently, it all depends of the individual.
No one is born heterosexual, homosexual, nor any other sexuality. Sexual orientation is "developed" later in life. Otherwise, the "cooties" thing wouldn't happen between boys and girls at a young age, if we were meant to be, by genetic default, heterosexual.
If you want to be technical, it's possible that sexuality is based on genetics. Like brown hair, eye color, etc; it varies from person to person. (And don't forget, genetic doesn't always mean inherited.) But I'm not entirely sure.
EDIT: Re-reading your post, you say it's not a choice, but if the family is anti-gay, the teen will choose to be gay due to a rebellion factor. Inconsistency with your logic. =D
I still think it has to do with hormones, because considering what people think about psychology pertaining to animals, we think it to be impossible. But since it's obviously not, as it occurs quite frequently, it all depends of the individual.
No one is born heterosexual, homosexual, nor any other sexuality. Sexual orientation is "developed" later in life. Otherwise, the "cooties" thing wouldn't happen between boys and girls at a young age, if we were meant to be, by genetic default, heterosexual.
If you want to be technical, it's possible that sexuality is based on genetics. Like brown hair, eye color, etc; it varies from person to person. (And don't forget, genetic doesn't always mean inherited.) But I'm not entirely sure.
EDIT: Re-reading your post, you say it's not a choice, but if the family is anti-gay, the teen will choose to be gay due to a rebellion factor. Inconsistency with your logic. =D
Where is this "Inconsistency?"
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05-14-2011, 11:51 PM
#88
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Originally posted by Johnboy25
I believe they aren't born gay, they just choose to act on what they feel. Its like a drug addict, they aren't born a addict, but they choose to act on the urges.
Not even close to the same. There are addictions that if they stop they will literally die, such as meth. Addictions are caused by brain waves sending urges not because they just choose to.
BTW. Feelings are created by your genetics combined with experiences in a given response. So technically it does have to do with birth.
05-15-2011, 01:01 AM
#89
Johnboy25
Banned
Originally posted by Just4Hax
Not even close to the same. There are addictions that if they stop they will literally die, such as meth. Addictions are caused by brain waves sending urges not because they just choose to.
BTW. Feelings are created by your genetics combined with experiences in a given response. So technically it does have to do with birth.
BTW. Feelings are created by your genetics combined with experiences in a given response. So technically it does have to do with birth.
Why with EVERYONE who have to cherry pick everything they say?
05-15-2011, 01:15 AM
#90
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Originally posted by Johnboy25
Why with EVERYONE who have to cherry pick everything they say?
Because every word you use has meaning. I will guess you have not gone through high school or never paid attention. What is with you and entering debates and not willing to debate. I didn't even cherry pick your statement. Still sore feelings from our last debate?
05-15-2011, 01:26 AM
#91
Booshykins
Tech Enthusiast
Originally posted by TimeShin
Where is this "Inconsistency?"
Originally posted by Just4Hax
It seems he is saying your rebellion factor is a choice.
This exactly.
At first, you said that it isn't a choice, and then you said that people will rebel (in this instance, choose to become a homosexual) because people within their environment tell them not to.
Whether homosexuality is genetic and natal or not really does not matter. I'm betting it is, but no matter what, you are who you are.
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