Post: Site Suffering
08-04-2011, 05:43 AM #1
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Why this site has gone downhill lately
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This site had so much potential....notice I said "had".

Shall we begin? Where do we start? Well I will get us started;

I joined this site a few months ago. I was google searching for hacks/cracks for various games and software, etc. I noticed this site was in vBulletin, which appealed to me. In my time in forums I noticed that ones using paid software such as; vBulletin, IPBoard, etc. tend to last longer, and keep their maintenance up to date. Upon joining and making my first few posts I noticed quickly how unprofessional staff are here. I was told that my posts were too short and I was "warned" not to post like that again. This action is common on forums, each forum has it's own set of rules and standards, no biggie right? Wrong. That notification I received was posted on my visitor wall for all guests to see. Anyone who has staffed anywhere knows you never approach someone in public unless there is an immediate threat to the security of the site. The back and forth continued with that staff member for a few posts until we reached an understanding.

I later posted a thread which contained a compilation of the works of some coders here on in the threads. It involved a phisher that I would custom code, the way the code worked though is that you would have to setup a fake gmail account so I could code it to connect to the gmail smtp server. The alternative to that was, I would tell you how to install vb express from microsoft and explain to you how to build the program yourself. This thread was removed because staff accused me of phishing for gmails. Now here is the funny part, first they say I must include a virus scan, now when I finally get them to understand that the program does not exist, it's on my pc, they then accuse it of being a phisher. Well they were right, to some degree, the program does phish for youtube and paypal accounts, as advertised, but they were saying I was phishing for gmails. Now people why would I ask you to setup a fake gmail account and then phish it from you? Why would I offer the code and explain to you how to create the software yourself? Again we are dealing with people moderating sections of the forum that they have no knowledge in.

I had a post removed where I was offering some databases for sale, that was removed because I was and am still under the 100 post count. This is fine with me, and I can respect that.

I later had another post removed involving windows 7 secret modes, I was accused this time of posting a dupe. I then had to explain to the staff the the original poster only included 1 hidden mode for windows 7, where as my thread was complete and contained all 14 (I believe it was 14) modes. That thread was later re-instated. The staff member that handled that was mature and cordial. Although this matter was yet again handled publicly for all to see on my wall and his alike.

There a few premium members that like to jump on threads and accuse the poster of stealing threads from else where, or saying that because the new guy only has 20 posts then his program must contain a virus. Staff needs to investigate these allegations and if they prove to be false, the accuser needs to be labeled appropriately. It's discouraging for a new person that actually knows what he is doing to be accused of making a program containing a virus when they have spent hours or even days creating something unique to share with the community. Not all premium members do this, and some help out more than mods do, but there are a lot that choose to spam threads instead of contributing something constructing to share with everyone else.

I mod and admin 3 other sites. They are successful sites, we have donators, they become vips. If the vips do not follow the rules as outlined, they are canned, and their money is refunded. The reason for this is, we encourage everyone to help out where they can. This is the only way a forum survives. Without new members becoming vips, then the site server fees suffer, as only the chosen few in essence end up running the site over the mods and admins, because staff is more concerned about turning a profit than the community itself.

I have taken the time to make this thread. I know staff will remove it, which again is unprofessional, all criticism should be welcome, and this is posted in the General Discussion section of the forum, so there is no reason this thread should be removed. If the staff do not take the time to start listening to it's members then people are going to start to realize that there is a little site out there called google that can provide them with 100's of other communities that may better suit their needs.

I have been in the torrenting / warez / hacking / coding community for years. I am a member of a well known group of HD-Encoders, and I may be a jerk if provoked, all in all I'm a nice person. I have a lot to contribute to the community, but that's only if staff will let me. A side note, my thread where I gave out free invites to private tracker sites was never messed with by staff...lol.

If the staff / admins here would like some more information about this topic, feel free to contact me, via PM. It's very unprofessional to ask people to carry a conversation, while listening to rap music on mod 'x' profile and I refuse to do it any further.
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08-04-2011, 05:51 AM #2
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I understand your frustration. I've encountered problems like this with the site but ALL sites have their problems and in due time, we will eventually work them out. Smile

If you have an issue with a certain staff member, make sure to always slip a pm to an admin. :p

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08-04-2011, 06:12 AM #3
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Originally posted by ralphierocks View Post
Why this site has gone downhill lately
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This site had so much potential....notice I said "had".


You have to say lately, you've been on here 2 months.
Problems come from membership as well as management.
Staying positive is the key.
It is still the best place around...

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08-04-2011, 06:16 AM #4
Originally posted by NeedaLifeSoon View Post
You have to say lately, you've been on here 2 months.
Problems come from membership as well as management.
Staying positive is the key.
It is still the best place around...


Yes It Is Still The Best Site Around! :y:
08-04-2011, 06:26 AM #5
sharpy
.Jack Johnson.
The sites dying I'm not going to lie, use to be so many good willing people on here, now there's few and everybody think there funny and tales the piss out of people, it's dying and everyone can see it
08-04-2011, 06:35 AM #6
Hazel
Problem rule #16?
Even if it is dieing im going to stick with it till the end. Too many memories here.
08-04-2011, 06:38 AM #7
Dopey
NGU :/
Originally posted by ralphierocks View Post
Why this site has gone downhill lately
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This site had so much potential....notice I said "had".

Shall we begin? Where do we start? Well I will get us started;

I joined this site a few months ago. I was google searching for hacks/cracks for various games and software, etc. I noticed this site was in vBulletin, which appealed to me. In my time in forums I noticed that ones using paid software such as; vBulletin, IPBoard, etc. tend to last longer, and keep their maintenance up to date. Upon joining and making my first few posts I noticed quickly how unprofessional staff are here. I was told that my posts were too short and I was "warned" not to post like that again. This action is common on forums, each forum has it's own set of rules and standards, no biggie right? Wrong. That notification I received was posted on my visitor wall for all guests to see. Anyone who has staffed anywhere knows you never approach someone in public unless there is an immediate threat to the security of the site. The back and forth continued with that staff member for a few posts until we reached an understanding.

I later posted a thread which contained a compilation of the works of some coders here on in the threads. It involved a phisher that I would custom code, the way the code worked though is that you would have to setup a fake gmail account so I could code it to connect to the gmail smtp server. The alternative to that was, I would tell you how to install vb express from microsoft and explain to you how to build the program yourself. This thread was removed because staff accused me of phishing for gmails. Now here is the funny part, first they say I must include a virus scan, now when I finally get them to understand that the program does not exist, it's on my pc, they then accuse it of being a phisher. Well they were right, to some degree, the program does phish for youtube and paypal accounts, as advertised, but they were saying I was phishing for gmails. Now people why would I ask you to setup a fake gmail account and then phish it from you? Why would I offer the code and explain to you how to create the software yourself? Again we are dealing with people moderating sections of the forum that they have no knowledge in.

I had a post removed where I was offering some databases for sale, that was removed because I was and am still under the 100 post count. This is fine with me, and I can respect that.

I later had another post removed involving windows 7 secret modes, I was accused this time of posting a dupe. I then had to explain to the staff the the original poster only included 1 hidden mode for windows 7, where as my thread was complete and contained all 14 (I believe it was 14) modes. That thread was later re-instated. The staff member that handled that was mature and cordial. Although this matter was yet again handled publicly for all to see on my wall and his alike.

There a few premium members that like to jump on threads and accuse the poster of stealing threads from else where, or saying that because the new guy only has 20 posts then his program must contain a virus. Staff needs to investigate these allegations and if they prove to be false, the accuser needs to be labeled appropriately. It's discouraging for a new person that actually knows what he is doing to be accused of making a program containing a virus when they have spent hours or even days creating something unique to share with the community. Not all premium members do this, and some help out more than mods do, but there are a lot that choose to spam threads instead of contributing something constructing to share with everyone else.

I mod and admin 3 other sites. They are successful sites, we have donators, they become vips. If the vips do not follow the rules as outlined, they are canned, and their money is refunded. The reason for this is, we encourage everyone to help out where they can. This is the only way a forum survives. Without new members becoming vips, then the site server fees suffer, as only the chosen few in essence end up running the site over the mods and admins, because staff is more concerned about turning a profit than the community itself.

I have taken the time to make this thread. I know staff will remove it, which again is unprofessional, all criticism should be welcome, and this is posted in the General Discussion section of the forum, so there is no reason this thread should be removed. If the staff do not take the time to start listening to it's members then people are going to start to realize that there is a little site out there called google that can provide them with 100's of other communities that may better suit their needs.

I have been in the torrenting / warez / hacking / coding community for years. I am a member of a well known group of HD-Encoders, and I may be a jerk if provoked, all in all I'm a nice person. I have a lot to contribute to the community, but that's only if staff will let me. A side note, my thread where I gave out free invites to private tracker sites was never messed with by staff...lol.

If the staff / admins here would like some more information about this topic, feel free to contact me, via PM. It's very unprofessional to ask people to carry a conversation, while listening to rap music on mod 'x' profile and I refuse to do it any further.


Everything is done publicly for two reasons.
1. Proof.
2. To make mods look like they are doing something. You have to remember our moderators were at one point, regular members like me and you. Moderators are demoted regularly for "inactivity" and promoted for working beyond what is expected of them. If issues are resolved over private messaging, administrators will not see the work they do and will never promote them.

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08-04-2011, 07:07 AM #8
EZ.
< ^ > < ^ >
As much as i like this site i'm gonna have to agree with completely. A some mods think they're the shit and honestly the only people i find nice and welcoming on this site is a handful of premiums, the admins, the reporters. and vbookie mods, a small number of mods, and a large proportion of the non premiums. An example is iv'e seen is mods and retired staff emphasizing how reporters are not staff ...for one they are and they're job is most likely harder and takes more skill. But this site is great and the respectful people here is what make this web site one of the best.

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08-04-2011, 07:35 AM #9
Originally posted by EZ. View Post
As much as i like this site i'm gonna have to agree with completely. A some mods think they're the shit and honestly the only people i find nice and welcoming on this site is a handful of premiums, the admins, the reporters. and vbookie mods, a small number of mods, and a large proportion of the non premiums. An example is iv'e seen is mods and retired staff emphasizing how reporters are not staff ...for one they are and they're job is most likely harder and takes more skill. But this site is great and the respectful people here is what make this web site one of the best.


Out of interest, would you mind naming the mods who you think are arrogant and/or disrespectful? From what I've noticed since I was promoted, none of the mods match that description. That's the honest truth, IMO.

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08-04-2011, 07:54 AM #10
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So you've read everything every mod has posted to say none of them are disrespectful?

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