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This site had so much potential....notice I said "had".

Shall we begin? Where do we start? Well I will get us started;

I joined this site a few months ago. I was google searching for hacks/cracks for various games and software, etc. I noticed this site was in vBulletin, which appealed to me. In my time in forums I noticed that ones using paid software such as; vBulletin, IPBoard, etc. tend to last longer, and keep their maintenance up to date. Upon joining and making my first few posts I noticed quickly how unprofessional staff are here. I was told that my posts were too short and I was "warned" not to post like that again. This action is common on forums, each forum has it's own set of rules and standards, no biggie right? Wrong. That notification I received was posted on my visitor wall for all guests to see. Anyone who has staffed anywhere knows you never approach someone in public unless there is an immediate threat to the security of the site. The back and forth continued with that staff member for a few posts until we reached an understanding.

I later posted a thread which contained a compilation of the works of some coders here on in the threads. It involved a phisher that I would custom code, the way the code worked though is that you would have to setup a fake gmail account so I could code it to connect to the gmail smtp server. The alternative to that was, I would tell you how to install vb express from microsoft and explain to you how to build the program yourself. This thread was removed because staff accused me of phishing for gmails. Now here is the funny part, first they say I must include a virus scan, now when I finally get them to understand that the program does not exist, it's on my pc, they then accuse it of being a phisher. Well they were right, to some degree, the program does phish for youtube and paypal accounts, as advertised, but they were saying I was phishing for gmails. Now people why would I ask you to setup a fake gmail account and then phish it from you? Why would I offer the code and explain to you how to create the software yourself? Again we are dealing with people moderating sections of the forum that they have no knowledge in.

I had a post removed where I was offering some databases for sale, that was removed because I was and am still under the 100 post count. This is fine with me, and I can respect that.

I later had another post removed involving windows 7 secret modes, I was accused this time of posting a dupe. I then had to explain to the staff the the original poster only included 1 hidden mode for windows 7, where as my thread was complete and contained all 14 (I believe it was 14) modes. That thread was later re-instated. The staff member that handled that was mature and cordial. Although this matter was yet again handled publicly for all to see on my wall and his alike.

There a few premium members that like to jump on threads and accuse the poster of stealing threads from else where, or saying that because the new guy only has 20 posts then his program must contain a virus. Staff needs to investigate these allegations and if they prove to be false, the accuser needs to be labeled appropriately. It's discouraging for a new person that actually knows what he is doing to be accused of making a program containing a virus when they have spent hours or even days creating something unique to share with the community. Not all premium members do this, and some help out more than mods do, but there are a lot that choose to spam threads instead of contributing something constructing to share with everyone else.

I mod and admin 3 other sites. They are successful sites, we have donators, they become vips. If the vips do not follow the rules as outlined, they are canned, and their money is refunded. The reason for this is, we encourage everyone to help out where they can. This is the only way a forum survives. Without new members becoming vips, then the site server fees suffer, as only the chosen few in essence end up running the site over the mods and admins, because staff is more concerned about turning a profit than the community itself.

I have taken the time to make this thread. I know staff will remove it, which again is unprofessional, all criticism should be welcome, and this is posted in the General Discussion section of the forum, so there is no reason this thread should be removed. If the staff do not take the time to start listening to it's members then people are going to start to realize that there is a little site out there called google that can provide them with 100's of other communities that may better suit their needs.

I have been in the torrenting / warez / hacking / coding community for years. I am a member of a well known group of HD-Encoders, and I may be a jerk if provoked, all in all I'm a nice person. I have a lot to contribute to the community, but that's only if staff will let me. A side note, my thread where I gave out free invites to private tracker sites was never messed with by staff...lol.

If the staff / admins here would like some more information about this topic, feel free to contact me, via PM. It's very unprofessional to ask people to carry a conversation, while listening to rap music on mod 'x' profile and I refuse to do it any further.

Just giving an example /facepalm. I don't have anything against that mod :rolleyes:

I just assume let the people speak, listen to what they want, and accommodate if possible. There are some decent users here, I know there was an influx of new users that didn't take the time to read all the rules, and there are a lot of noobs that need help. Being part of a community means contributing if you can help, if you can't then would it not be wise to move on to the next thread? I just don't see the point in flaming threads and the like, I know people do it, and that will never change. A lot of new people go ignored by all members, and staff. I know you guys can't help every single user, but taking the time to point them in the right direction goes without saying. Hopefully changes will be made soon, and the staff will be evaluated by the Admin(s), and the people not pulling their weight, or being abusive, unprofessional will be demoted so better staff can step up and help out. There are still people out here that are not burned out and actually want to help where they can. These people should not be ignored, maybe some trial new staff is in order perhaps?

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That's not what I was inferring, all I meant was I can't really take that as an example haha :p

I think the worst thing about the staff members (and the members, but it doesn't really matter with us as we seem to make no impact either way) on this site is that a lot of them (not all of them) seem to think that they're immune to criticism just because they're staff members. And a few staff have even admitted to thinking this.

A lot of members are the same way, but it doesn't have much of an impact because our actions don't affect people as much as a staff member's; the only power we really have is the power to post, spam, flame and leave the site, and that's not going to do it any good.

Moderators and administrators can do basically anything they want to us, and that combined with the immunity attitude brings issues.

That attitude, even by itself, stuns progression, so of course this site is going downhill. The site itself may have progressed, but its community hasn't.

I have 9 examples. Look at all my infractions. all reversed and/or deleted. Golagoda is a master at flaming without being caught too.

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Another example is what matt did to me. 6 mods laughed and finally an admin found out and dealt with it like a real staff member.

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And i also showed dave a picture of rules and he replied with " i deal with users however i want" which shouldnt be true. Staff are supposrd to enforce them, not make them up and act rude when somebody offers a little help.

Sadly, I have to agree with this thread also. I love NGU with all my heart and will continue to be active on here, I think the main reason it's starting to fall apart is how big the member base is getting. Back when I joined in June of 2008 there were only a couple thousand members so everyone got along real nicely. But unfortunately as NGU grew more and more people started to make enemies...that's just how it is and because there are so many members now it really is hard for staff to keep up with everything.

I just think we need more community involved activities to help bring NGU back together.

I think this site suffers because everyone hops onto one guy far too quick, its only staff who can joke, for example, a newbie comes into the SB and calls a mod a prick, then all the reg prems instantly jump on him and staff ban him. Come on calling someone a prick is ban worthy no? Plus staff break so many rules, yet a normal guy does it and boom ban, all in all I think this site is a total shit hole now, honest opinion, nothing more, nothing less :n:

So is there a point or a suggestion to this? Because I close rant threads, and I would be a hypocrite not to close this :p