Post: Site Suffering
08-04-2011, 05:43 AM #1
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Why this site has gone downhill lately
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This site had so much potential....notice I said "had".

Shall we begin? Where do we start? Well I will get us started;

I joined this site a few months ago. I was google searching for hacks/cracks for various games and software, etc. I noticed this site was in vBulletin, which appealed to me. In my time in forums I noticed that ones using paid software such as; vBulletin, IPBoard, etc. tend to last longer, and keep their maintenance up to date. Upon joining and making my first few posts I noticed quickly how unprofessional staff are here. I was told that my posts were too short and I was "warned" not to post like that again. This action is common on forums, each forum has it's own set of rules and standards, no biggie right? Wrong. That notification I received was posted on my visitor wall for all guests to see. Anyone who has staffed anywhere knows you never approach someone in public unless there is an immediate threat to the security of the site. The back and forth continued with that staff member for a few posts until we reached an understanding.

I later posted a thread which contained a compilation of the works of some coders here on in the threads. It involved a phisher that I would custom code, the way the code worked though is that you would have to setup a fake gmail account so I could code it to connect to the gmail smtp server. The alternative to that was, I would tell you how to install vb express from microsoft and explain to you how to build the program yourself. This thread was removed because staff accused me of phishing for gmails. Now here is the funny part, first they say I must include a virus scan, now when I finally get them to understand that the program does not exist, it's on my pc, they then accuse it of being a phisher. Well they were right, to some degree, the program does phish for youtube and paypal accounts, as advertised, but they were saying I was phishing for gmails. Now people why would I ask you to setup a fake gmail account and then phish it from you? Why would I offer the code and explain to you how to create the software yourself? Again we are dealing with people moderating sections of the forum that they have no knowledge in.

I had a post removed where I was offering some databases for sale, that was removed because I was and am still under the 100 post count. This is fine with me, and I can respect that.

I later had another post removed involving windows 7 secret modes, I was accused this time of posting a dupe. I then had to explain to the staff the the original poster only included 1 hidden mode for windows 7, where as my thread was complete and contained all 14 (I believe it was 14) modes. That thread was later re-instated. The staff member that handled that was mature and cordial. Although this matter was yet again handled publicly for all to see on my wall and his alike.

There a few premium members that like to jump on threads and accuse the poster of stealing threads from else where, or saying that because the new guy only has 20 posts then his program must contain a virus. Staff needs to investigate these allegations and if they prove to be false, the accuser needs to be labeled appropriately. It's discouraging for a new person that actually knows what he is doing to be accused of making a program containing a virus when they have spent hours or even days creating something unique to share with the community. Not all premium members do this, and some help out more than mods do, but there are a lot that choose to spam threads instead of contributing something constructing to share with everyone else.

I mod and admin 3 other sites. They are successful sites, we have donators, they become vips. If the vips do not follow the rules as outlined, they are canned, and their money is refunded. The reason for this is, we encourage everyone to help out where they can. This is the only way a forum survives. Without new members becoming vips, then the site server fees suffer, as only the chosen few in essence end up running the site over the mods and admins, because staff is more concerned about turning a profit than the community itself.

I have taken the time to make this thread. I know staff will remove it, which again is unprofessional, all criticism should be welcome, and this is posted in the General Discussion section of the forum, so there is no reason this thread should be removed. If the staff do not take the time to start listening to it's members then people are going to start to realize that there is a little site out there called google that can provide them with 100's of other communities that may better suit their needs.

I have been in the torrenting / warez / hacking / coding community for years. I am a member of a well known group of HD-Encoders, and I may be a jerk if provoked, all in all I'm a nice person. I have a lot to contribute to the community, but that's only if staff will let me. A side note, my thread where I gave out free invites to private tracker sites was never messed with by staff...lol.

If the staff / admins here would like some more information about this topic, feel free to contact me, via PM. It's very unprofessional to ask people to carry a conversation, while listening to rap music on mod 'x' profile and I refuse to do it any further.
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08-05-2011, 03:41 PM #65
Seriously, you make haters for a reason.. also you cant say anything, you've been here for 2 months, yes the site is having a bad time atm, but making 999999 threads about it doesnt help, it just splits the community in two, people who notice a problem and want to solve it and people who notice a problem and cry about it. seriously no one person can 'fix' this site, this is a community and we all have to work togethor to get this site back to its former glory Winky Winky

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webzy
08-05-2011, 04:07 PM #66
Originally posted by .Solo. View Post
Socratic questioning, I see.


I don't understand

私は理解していない
08-05-2011, 04:11 PM #67
Solo
Rookie
Originally posted by 8002A203 View Post
I don't understand

私は理解していない


Socrates. The Greek Philosopher that turned questions back on the asker.

...your question was a socratic question.
08-05-2011, 05:02 PM #68
webzy
Work hard get Better
NextGenUpdate is a great site when i first became a member here i was called a newfag
and such other mentally diminshed terms.

But thats okay i didn't mind it, think for a moment for new members joining this great site
that we all love.

They try to contribute and then get bashed on by older members for what ever reasons, what
do you think they will react like, ? either they will take it, some may not.

And the one's that don't take it will leave that member could have helped or made this website
better maybe in many ways.

Then he might through word of mouth tell his friends where in which they will tell there friends
and so about how he tried to suggest something being new on the site in question.

And was bashed, flamed provoked into an arguement which were he just decided it was enough.

That is the only aspect that i may have a problem with but to an end note thats what happens but
maybe if an Administrator put a new rule in the forums stopping this we would all see a great influx.

Here on NextGenUpdate so thats all i have to say other than i think NGU is still great and we will all
soon see who are the rats leaving the sinking ship if it does occur in my opinion it won't.

Thanks guys if you have read my post much appreciated.
08-05-2011, 05:09 PM #69
-Fitz-
Can’t trickshot me!
I think the site is going downhill a little, and frankly I've just gotten a little bored with it lately. Site posting is down now but in a few months when MW3 and Battlefield 3 come out, BOOM it will skyrocket just like when MW2 came out. And as for mods, I think that issue will always be there. I do believe there are some really good mods, but at the same time there are some pretty biased mods who take sides quickly.
08-05-2011, 05:17 PM #70
webzy
Work hard get Better
Originally posted by Fitz
I think the site is going downhill a little, and frankly I've just gotten a little bored with it lately. Site posting is down now but in a few months when MW3 and Battlefield 3 come out, BOOM it will skyrocket just like when MW2 came out. And as for mods, I think that issue will always be there. I do believe there are some really good mods, but at the same time there are some pretty biased mods who take sides quickly.


But if you think of it a website can't always be in a constant buzz with it's members.

But i do agree with the new games coming out they will increase threads and posts.

We love this site but we also have our real lives in which we have to live as well and
this will take time away from being on here.

But i do agree with you on MW3 that will boost popularity here again but i don't really
think NGU is dying just at a low point.
08-05-2011, 10:55 PM #71
PleaseBuyMyCat
Who wants to buy my cat?
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08-06-2011, 05:34 AM #72
The buzz is here, that's not the issue. The issue is once you come here from the "buzz" you see very quickly that it's nothing to be marveled over. That's what we are hoping to see changed. It's partly the users fault, but man look at it, if the users are so bad, who moderates them...the moderator's right? LOL!!! So point being accept responsibility, that's what someone does in a leadership role, and lets see some changes.

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08-06-2011, 07:16 AM #73
the stuff
League Champion
What a fancy, well articulated thread you have constructed. Cheers!! To the New World!

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