Post: Your thoughts on Gay Marriage
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05-20-2012, 11:42 PM
#47
impala88
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Noticed this thread, my first thought was I shouldn't even go in there, hovered over the click to enter and nearly took my own advice and steered clear of what I assumed would be a hateful thread full of standard geek rage. Then I failed my own caution and stuck my head in through the door to be pleasantly and unexpectedly surprised to see most people being quite chilled and supportive of it all. Kudos to this forum community.
As a gay chap who has been in a happy stable relationship for 12 years, we've never bothered to get a civil partnership (UK based), it's just not our thing, but the main reason I want it, is simple equality. If the law makes one group, any group, subject to different rules it sets them apart and I don't want to be set apart for something I had no choice in. I definitely didn't choose to be gay, who would? It doesn't make life easier, that's not to say I'm ashamed, my gay life has been very easy, accepted by friends and family, I'm not obviously gay, but I'm always open about it.
Any decent society treats all it's citizens equally, that shows to everyone that treating them differently is not acceptable and that would make life less threatening for those less fortunate than I have been.
As a gay chap who has been in a happy stable relationship for 12 years, we've never bothered to get a civil partnership (UK based), it's just not our thing, but the main reason I want it, is simple equality. If the law makes one group, any group, subject to different rules it sets them apart and I don't want to be set apart for something I had no choice in. I definitely didn't choose to be gay, who would? It doesn't make life easier, that's not to say I'm ashamed, my gay life has been very easy, accepted by friends and family, I'm not obviously gay, but I'm always open about it.
Any decent society treats all it's citizens equally, that shows to everyone that treating them differently is not acceptable and that would make life less threatening for those less fortunate than I have been.
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05-20-2012, 11:54 PM
#48
Pichu
PICHU.
PICHU.
Originally posted by R
Gays can shuv their rights up there own asses for all I care, the last thing I give a $#@! about is their rights frankly in my opinion all homosexuals have a mental disorder and we should not be allowing them to get married. Besides if marriage is a religious undertaking does it not say somewhere in the bible that men should not love men women should not love women if that's true then why are people bending the rules on marriage which are layed out in the bible can't the homosexuals just get a civil partnership instead.
Actually, in the bible it only speaks of men being homosexual as a sin, they never do state that it is a sin for women to be homosexual.
---------- Post added at 04:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:48 PM ----------
Originally posted by ghostbear
Just adding to.
Fear guides people to act irrationally, even to old ideas. Homosexuality has existed since the beginning in all animals. It is not something new, just something the humans have decided to argue against. They cannot continue the human race through procreation, thereby adding more humans to this world. I do not see this as a problem, less people isn't a bad idea. It is immoral, not it isn't, two consenting adults having sex regardless of gender is unimportant. Why so many seem want to know about someones sex life is beyond me, is there not enough to occupy their minds?
Marriage is a good one to, perhaps gays shouldn't get married. After all its creation was about expanding the family through a business deal, trading property for children. The bride being the property, giving her husband access to her fathers estate in trade for maybe an heir, land, power or all the above. It is an convenience arrangement not one of love. It was romanticized many times by the hopeful to be something more.
I think we need something better, something that actually allows the joining of two people who actually care for one another that isn't so damned political.
Fear guides people to act irrationally, even to old ideas. Homosexuality has existed since the beginning in all animals. It is not something new, just something the humans have decided to argue against. They cannot continue the human race through procreation, thereby adding more humans to this world. I do not see this as a problem, less people isn't a bad idea. It is immoral, not it isn't, two consenting adults having sex regardless of gender is unimportant. Why so many seem want to know about someones sex life is beyond me, is there not enough to occupy their minds?
Marriage is a good one to, perhaps gays shouldn't get married. After all its creation was about expanding the family through a business deal, trading property for children. The bride being the property, giving her husband access to her fathers estate in trade for maybe an heir, land, power or all the above. It is an convenience arrangement not one of love. It was romanticized many times by the hopeful to be something more.
I think we need something better, something that actually allows the joining of two people who actually care for one another that isn't so damned political.
Seriously, honestly the word Marriage means nothing now-a-days. With a rise in divorce, I don't think it has the meaning that it once had, the beauty of it. Even though I am Agnostic-Atheist, the content and moral idea behind it seemed nice but as it is broken in shambles because of all the people around me, the meaning has no meaning. Its the uniting of two people who are now statistically going to divorce within the next 20 years of their lives; so much for long happy marriage, 'till death do us part.
I say f*ck it all and let people marry a man or a women if they want, it makes no difference in the end. The homosexual community has been noted for taking in children that were not wanted and raising them up pretty well, the children end up being less bias anyways and more accepting. More often enough, the kids don't even end up gay. I know of a lot of people with their real mom or dad in a gay relationship, that has been in a relationship for over 15 years and there is nothing wrong with them.
05-21-2012, 02:11 AM
#50
ghostbear
Vaulted cur
Originally posted by Pichu
Actually, in the bible it only speaks of men being homosexual as a sin, they never do state that it is a sin for women to be homosexual.
---------- Post added at 04:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:48 PM ----------
Seriously, honestly the word Marriage means nothing now-a-days. With a rise in divorce, I don't think it has the meaning that it once had, the beauty of it. Even though I am Agnostic-Atheist, the content and moral idea behind it seemed nice but as it is broken in shambles because of all the people around me, the meaning has no meaning. Its the uniting of two people who are now statistically going to divorce within the next 20 years of their lives; so much for long happy marriage, 'till death do us part.
I say f*ck it all and let people marry a man or a women if they want, it makes no difference in the end. The homosexual community has been noted for taking in children that were not wanted and raising them up pretty well, the children end up being less bias anyways and more accepting. More often enough, the kids don't even end up gay. I know of a lot of people with their real mom or dad in a gay relationship, that has been in a relationship for over 15 years and there is nothing wrong with them.
---------- Post added at 04:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:48 PM ----------
Seriously, honestly the word Marriage means nothing now-a-days. With a rise in divorce, I don't think it has the meaning that it once had, the beauty of it. Even though I am Agnostic-Atheist, the content and moral idea behind it seemed nice but as it is broken in shambles because of all the people around me, the meaning has no meaning. Its the uniting of two people who are now statistically going to divorce within the next 20 years of their lives; so much for long happy marriage, 'till death do us part.
I say f*ck it all and let people marry a man or a women if they want, it makes no difference in the end. The homosexual community has been noted for taking in children that were not wanted and raising them up pretty well, the children end up being less bias anyways and more accepting. More often enough, the kids don't even end up gay. I know of a lot of people with their real mom or dad in a gay relationship, that has been in a relationship for over 15 years and there is nothing wrong with them.
It is true, it really has no meaning these days, just a placeholder if you will. They don't want to advocate gay marriage because that is one more thing they will have to tolerate if not allow. They want the power to tell people who, where, and when someone can be married, they are afraid, because the old walls they built to separate people are coming down.
Originally posted by BluR
I don't mind. As long as they don't touch me anywhere
Why? You won't become gay from touch. That is a very bigoted statement.
05-21-2012, 02:37 AM
#51
Pichu
PICHU.
PICHU.
Originally posted by ghostbear
It is true, it really has no meaning these days, just a placeholder if you will. They don't want to advocate gay marriage because that is one more thing they will have to tolerate if not allow. They want the power to tell people who, where, and when someone can be married, they are afraid, because the old walls they built to separate people are coming down.
Why? You won't become gay from touch. That is a very bigoted statement.
Why? You won't become gay from touch. That is a very bigoted statement.
100% agree with both 1st and second comment.
I don't mind homosexual people, I see them as no different other than the fact that they have a different sexual interest than me. I know guys and girls that are gay, does it change how I talk to them, no.
I've had guys try and hit on me and I respectively tell them that I am straight and not interested, most understand and move on. They are no different that straight people.
Here's a positive with gays that marry, they will adopt the children that normally wouldn't be adopted and they won't be having kids of their own. This means a reduction in population and a certain un-cared for population now has a good chance of being cared for.
06-11-2012, 10:29 PM
#53
Zoumbo7397
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06-13-2012, 04:09 AM
#54
Jakes625
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Originally posted by Dot
Lately i have been noticing a lot of fuss over gay marriage, so i decided to make a post that lets people put there arguments in action 
Feel free to leave your opinion and reasoning here.
Feel free to leave your opinion and reasoning here.
Well first let me say, that I don't really give a fuck. I'm not gay, so it doesn't bother me...
But If I had to vote on it, I am totally against it. They shouldn't be able to get married as a "christian" because it goes against god. I believe they have every right to be together, but to get married as a christian? That just doesn't make sense.
ie: scenario played out
God = mom, government = babysitter, gays = bob, heterosexuals = Mary, marriage = cookies
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Mom is leaving, as she leaves she tells the children "Mary you can have some cookies, but Bob you can't have any". She walks out the door. Not to long after the babysitter arrives. Mary goes and gets her cookies. After a while Mary grabs some more and Bob starts to complain. Bob cries out that he wants some to the babysitter. He is trying to convince the babysitter that Mary got cookies so Bob should too. They babysitter wants to give cookies to Bob, but the Mom told the babysitter that Bob can't have any cookies.
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Basically that is what is going on with gay marriage. They have every right to be together, but not to get married "as a christian".
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