Post: My exact take on religion
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03-25-2013, 01:23 AM
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Gambler
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The Bible is full of contradictions and many of the teaching seem more like fables than actual historic events. Jesus brings up a bunch of questions as well. The virgin birth seems a bit out there to me. Why do the stories go from birth and skip to age 30? I do not believe God and Christ were the same. That is possible of course but not realistic. I think Jesus may have lived and taught many of the things quoted in the bible however I think he was just another man not the son of god, the savior or god in the trinity. The people and kings I guess felt threaten and had him killed. That’s what I think in regards to Jesus. God is almighty so why would he need to create a human son from a virgin have him wander around earth for 30 years and then spread the gospel and be crucified for the worlds sins? Plus the integrity of the bible is questionable since it was written by man and has been translated many times over thousands of years. History also shows how religion has been used by man to control the people. I think the bible is a good book full of good lessons to guide us to live better lives.
Adam and Eve and the 6000 year old Earth.
God made man but I really doubt he just made one man Adam and then pulled a rib from him and made Eve. The whole Apple story is a fable as well. Good lesson. Carbon dating is proof the world is older.
I believe there is good and evil in the world. I believe our soul is hard wired to know the difference. That thought you get in your head “This doesn’t seem right” when you are about to do something immoral. Or “This is the right thing to do” when you are about to help someone out. God gives us free will to make a decision either we ignore the feeling(voice in our head) and do the bad deed or we listen to it and do the right thing. Its called our conscience.
I believe in what goes around comes around. If you are a bad person bad things will come back to you and vise versa. Some seemingly good people seem to go through hell and never have good luck. That I don’t understand. God has a reason though. I believe we all have souls separate from our bodies. When our body dies our soul lives on. Heaven to me is a place where you are extremely happy for eternity. Hell is the opposite. I don’t know what gets you to either place. I think living a good life and having a good heart is key. Ruthless self centered evil people probably go to hell. I strongly believe in the do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Another problem I have with Christians is there belief that all people who do not believe in Christ can not go to heaven simply because you have to enter heaven through Jesus by believing in him. So all no Christian people are going to hell. So all the good people in the world that are non Christians are going to hell. God is much bigger than that.
Judging other people.
Thou shalt not judge. How many self proclaimed Christians do this? You know the difference between a Baptist and a Methodist? A Methodist will speak to you in the liquor store and the Baptist will not!
I don’t believe in judging other people. Most people that judge others have not looked in the mirror. They may be very surprised if they do. As humans we have too many of our own issues to work out rather than looking down on other peoples issues and actions.
Now some things like robbery, rape and murder are different stories. I do look down on and Judge people who commit crimes such as these. I also look down on hypocrites.
EDIT: I don't believe in any current religion.
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03-25-2013, 01:33 AM
#2
Toke
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Originally posted by Gambler
I grew up going to southern Baptist churches. At one time I believed in the whole Christian thing around age 10. Now I don’t. 1st I do believe in God. Too many unbelievable complex things going on in our every day lives to not believe. Plus I have had some unique experiences that would suggest God is real and listening to our prayers and looking out for us.
The Bible is full of contradictions and many of the teaching seem more like fables than actual historic events. Jesus brings up a bunch of questions as well. I guess since he was a man he was breathing. Well breathing is a sin so Jesus was a sinner. The virgin birth seems a bit out there to me. Why do the stories go from birth and skip to age 30? I do not believe God and Christ were the same. That is possible of course but not realistic. I think Jesus may have lived and taught many of the things quoted in the bible however I think he was just another man not the son of god, the savior or god in the trinity. The people and kings I guess felt threaten and had him killed. That’s what I think in regards to Jesus. God is almighty so why would he need to create a human son from a virgin have him wander around earth for 30 years and then spread the gospel and be crucified for the worlds sins? Plus the integrity of the bible is questionable since it was written by man and has been translated many times over thousands of years. History also shows how religion has been used by man to control the people. I think the bible is a good book full of good lessons to guide us to live better lives.
Adam and Eve and the 6000 year old Earth.
God made man but I really doubt he just made one man Adam and then pulled a rib from him and made Eve. The whole Apple story is a fable as well. Good lesson. Carbon dating is proof the world is older.
I believe there is good and evil in the world. I believe our soul is hard wired to know the difference. That thought you get in your head “This doesn’t seem right” when you are about to do something immoral. Or “This is the right thing to do” when you are about to help someone out. God gives us free will to make a decision either we ignore the feeling(voice in our head) and do the bad deed or we listen to it and do the right thing. Its called our conscience.
I believe in what goes around comes around. If you are a bad person bad things will come back to you and vise versa. Some seemingly good people seem to go through hell and never have good luck. That I don’t understand. God has a reason though. I believe we all have souls separate from our bodies. When our body dies our soul lives on. Heaven to me is a place where you are extremely happy for eternity. Hell is the opposite. I don’t know what gets you to either place. I think living a good life and having a good heart is key. Ruthless self centered evil people probably go to hell. I strongly believe in the do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Another problem I have with Christians is there belief that all people who do not believe in Christ can not go to heaven simply because you have to enter heaven through Jesus by believing in him. So all no Christian people are going to hell. So all the good people in the world that are non Christians are going to hell. God is much bigger than that.
Judging other people.
Thou shalt not judge. How many self proclaimed Christians do this? You know the difference between a Baptist and a Methodist? A Methodist will speak to you in the liquor store and the Baptist will not! LOL
I don’t believe in judging other people. Most people that judge others have not looked in the mirror. They may be very surprised if they do. As humans we have too many of our own issues to work out rather than looking down on other peoples issues and actions.
Now some things like robbery, rape and murder are different stories. I do look down on and Judge people who commit crimes such as these. I also look down on hypocrites.
The Bible is full of contradictions and many of the teaching seem more like fables than actual historic events. Jesus brings up a bunch of questions as well. I guess since he was a man he was breathing. Well breathing is a sin so Jesus was a sinner. The virgin birth seems a bit out there to me. Why do the stories go from birth and skip to age 30? I do not believe God and Christ were the same. That is possible of course but not realistic. I think Jesus may have lived and taught many of the things quoted in the bible however I think he was just another man not the son of god, the savior or god in the trinity. The people and kings I guess felt threaten and had him killed. That’s what I think in regards to Jesus. God is almighty so why would he need to create a human son from a virgin have him wander around earth for 30 years and then spread the gospel and be crucified for the worlds sins? Plus the integrity of the bible is questionable since it was written by man and has been translated many times over thousands of years. History also shows how religion has been used by man to control the people. I think the bible is a good book full of good lessons to guide us to live better lives.
Adam and Eve and the 6000 year old Earth.
God made man but I really doubt he just made one man Adam and then pulled a rib from him and made Eve. The whole Apple story is a fable as well. Good lesson. Carbon dating is proof the world is older.
I believe there is good and evil in the world. I believe our soul is hard wired to know the difference. That thought you get in your head “This doesn’t seem right” when you are about to do something immoral. Or “This is the right thing to do” when you are about to help someone out. God gives us free will to make a decision either we ignore the feeling(voice in our head) and do the bad deed or we listen to it and do the right thing. Its called our conscience.
I believe in what goes around comes around. If you are a bad person bad things will come back to you and vise versa. Some seemingly good people seem to go through hell and never have good luck. That I don’t understand. God has a reason though. I believe we all have souls separate from our bodies. When our body dies our soul lives on. Heaven to me is a place where you are extremely happy for eternity. Hell is the opposite. I don’t know what gets you to either place. I think living a good life and having a good heart is key. Ruthless self centered evil people probably go to hell. I strongly believe in the do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Another problem I have with Christians is there belief that all people who do not believe in Christ can not go to heaven simply because you have to enter heaven through Jesus by believing in him. So all no Christian people are going to hell. So all the good people in the world that are non Christians are going to hell. God is much bigger than that.
Judging other people.
Thou shalt not judge. How many self proclaimed Christians do this? You know the difference between a Baptist and a Methodist? A Methodist will speak to you in the liquor store and the Baptist will not! LOL
I don’t believe in judging other people. Most people that judge others have not looked in the mirror. They may be very surprised if they do. As humans we have too many of our own issues to work out rather than looking down on other peoples issues and actions.
Now some things like robbery, rape and murder are different stories. I do look down on and Judge people who commit crimes such as these. I also look down on hypocrites.
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and I used to think religions where real but now i have realized they arn't
03-25-2013, 08:17 PM
#5
sko
Grunt
Originally posted by Toke
we live a fucking sin
You have to sin in this system to be able to survive it. 100% Agreed with your statement.
People have nothing so that "we" can have something. And we have something cause we allow people to be left with nothing.
That's why i have more respect for a Bum then the average person, cause i see those people as the tiny few that actually had the balls to completely deny this "satanic" system and refuse to coöperate with it all the way. Even if it means they are left with nothing and get ridiculed by the "civilised".
Originally posted by Gambler
Now some things like robbery, rape and murder are different stories. I do look down on and Judge people who commit crimes such as these. I also look down on hypocrites.
We can never fully comprehend what goes on in a persons mind and what lead him to commit whatever actions. Realise that even someone who grew up in the same enviroment with the same influences, can still grow up to be the exact opposite of you, and think about every single thing in a different way. Small influences, even something another person says can change a person entirely. Don't judge what you can't possibly comprehend. Instead TRY to understand. In my opinion trying to understand will teach you not to judge and to keep an open mind.
03-25-2013, 11:22 PM
#6
Gambler
Guest
Originally posted by sko
You have to sin in this system to be able to survive it. 100% Agreed with your statement.
People have nothing so that "we" can have something. And we have something cause we allow people to be left with nothing.
That's why i have more respect for a Bum then the average person, cause i see those people as the tiny few that actually had the balls to completely deny this "satanic" system and refuse to coöperate with it all the way. Even if it means they are left with nothing and get ridiculed by the "civilised".
We can never fully comprehend what goes on in a persons mind and what lead him to commit whatever actions. Realise that even someone who grew up in the same enviroment with the same influences, can still grow up to be the exact opposite of you, and think about every single thing in a different way. Small influences, even something another person says can change a person entirely. Don't judge what you can't possibly comprehend. Instead TRY to understand. In my opinion trying to understand you will teach you not to judge and to keep an open mind.
People have nothing so that "we" can have something. And we have something cause we allow people to be left with nothing.
That's why i have more respect for a Bum then the average person, cause i see those people as the tiny few that actually had the balls to completely deny this "satanic" system and refuse to coöperate with it all the way. Even if it means they are left with nothing and get ridiculed by the "civilised".
We can never fully comprehend what goes on in a persons mind and what lead him to commit whatever actions. Realise that even someone who grew up in the same enviroment with the same influences, can still grow up to be the exact opposite of you, and think about every single thing in a different way. Small influences, even something another person says can change a person entirely. Don't judge what you can't possibly comprehend. Instead TRY to understand. In my opinion trying to understand you will teach you not to judge and to keep an open mind.
I'm very open minded lol? Rape, murder, and robbery. Those are all horrible things bro.
03-26-2013, 01:01 AM
#8
Under Alts Bed
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03-29-2013, 04:57 PM
#10
Fluxorz
OP is a phaggot
Whenever I start to question if there is a god, all I do is think about the big bang. I believe in the Big Bang Theory, but what created that compacted matter? How did the bang occur? How did the planets become so dense if dirt, dust and rocks formed together by swirling around? What are the chances of all the neccesaties in life being put here on just this planet, water, nutrients. I believe in Evolution, that does not make me secular, I believe there is a higher-being. I don't think that the higher-being would be in the form of a human-being because, just think about that. Anyways, that is me putting my opinion out.
Originally posted by Gambler
you're saying "by god" does that mean I'm referring to "christian god"? I'm saying higher power in general.
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