(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Now before I start I would like to say this isn't a "legalize weed" thread or "alcohol is horrible". This includes all chemicals, whether it be legal, illegal, synthetic, organic, natural, etc.

Now for the main question.. Does the government have a morally right say in what we can/can't put into our bodies? and is it just?

Voice your opinion.


Now for my input on this question. Personally I believe the government has no right saying what we can/can't put into our body. I believe it's completely immoral for them to do so. The reason for most of bans, illegalizations are for reports of abuse, public view of the substance, and the profit they can make on this. A lot of things which are legal I also disagree with being legal. Now I'm not saying lets do all the drugs we want, obviously they have potential to ruin lives but that is not always the case, but you can abuse anything, and most of legal chemicals are unjust and immoral. A couple examples of this are everyday things like deodorant, cough syrup, prescribed pills, diet soda, and hell even water. Any chemical can be abused, and it can be harmful. Deodorant can cause heart cancer, cough syrup contains a chemical called dextromythorphan hydrobromide which is a dissossiative similar to ketamine, and PCP. acetaminophen the active ingredient in asprin causes as much damage to your liver as 6 months of alcohol binging. (~ 500mg dosage). Diet Soda's fake sugar can cause cancer and heart failure, and you can overdose from drinking too much water. I mean these are threats we face everyday. In just our everyday products! Prescribed pills such as oxycodone, hydrocodone, adderal, lunesta, ambien, etc. are mostly different forms of amphetamines, opiates, opiods, which are btw (heroin, crack, coke, morphine). These are legal and prescribed to kids! They are very addictive and every year cause more overdoses than heroin, meth, and cocaine combined. This is a serious problem, now I have a problem with people using drugs which are addictive like amphetamines but I do believe they have the right to experiment with their own body. This is especially true when it comes to psychedelics such as hallucinogens. They have very low toxicity levels and cause almost physically no harm to the human body. Most of them actually mimic chemicals already made in the brain and which are used in everyday items such as dreaming, meditation, etc. So what about people who "get high and drive?". Well, yeah.. they should get punishments for their actions, it's not smart to be on the wheel and drink and drive but people should have the right to expand their consciousness and experiment with them. After all, what freedom do we really have if we can't explore our own consciousness? We don't have freedom of our own mind so what freedom do we really have at all? This is my intake on all of this, and I didn't really go into that much depth of my thoughts and I'm not trying to persuade you guys, I'm just saying be optimistic, or at least try too.

Post your opinions please, I'd like a good debate going here

Yes and no.
This may seem irrelevant but it isn't.

The Government can make something illegal but there is always going to be a way around it (ie. Marijuana). The Government is doing us all a favor because they know things such as Alcohol, Cigarettes, and Drugs contain ingredients/chemicals which can harm one's body. They cannot completely legalize it because what's said above (how there'll always be a way around it) so instead, they put legal ages required to obtain said things/substances.

Also, the Government puts these limitations in place for two reasons: to protect the youth, and to make sure the users are fully responsible for their actions (don't go into denial, people's thought-process is impaired while these ingredients/chemicals are in their bodies, thus causing them to do stupid shit they wouldn't otherwise do. The Government is basically covering their ass so they can say "The user knew the responsibilities that comes with their actions and is otherwise 100% at fault".)

I believe however that (what I mean by 'that' is put an age restriction on marijuana.) so it's the same thing as Alcohol where there is a mandatory age and have dispensaries inspected by the Government or have dispensaries ran by the Government but have people work their (kind of like modern day liquor stores) to make sure they're abiding by the regulations/law. It'd also stop a lot of the crime which is evolved around the distribution of marijuana. (Disclaimer: I have never consumed marijuana and quite frankly don't want to but I do however agree with pot heads in the fact it should be legalized.)

EDIT: It isn't recommended, doesn't mean you can't. People spend years in college to study this shit, I think they'd know a bit more than you

P.S. I don't want to get ranted on by potheads about marijuana not having any side effects; so please save myself and yourself the time.

That is not my intake on this at all. Yeah.. you have fun but I mean. In the overall realistic sense, do they have the right? I mean some cultures have been using drugs for spiritual purposes and to have the government just come in and take that away from me seem morally wrong then the persons ingesting drugs in the first place, ya know? Now I like your input on this it brings the ideas around controlling these things. We could be putting poison into our bodies but I mean they do that a lot already... To me it seems like they're trying to brainwash citizens into "This is legal so it's good for you, this is illegal so it's bad for you". That are lots of issues with legally controlled substances. Great input btw!

Edit: Spell check :fa:

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You are exactly right! Although they say "it's to protect the youth" but really.. they harm the youth anyway. Lots of things slip by their morals just to maintain a job, I mean it's difficult deciding on legislation and pleasing everyone. What disturbs me most is that people make decisions based on what they were taught, not why they have learned.

For example my friend in school said he would never smoke marijuana, but yet he would try getting high on cough syrup. I instantly became disgusted. Cough Syrup either contains DXM, or Codine. Both are addictive and are way more harmful. It seems to me that people just assume things without taking any time to research things for themselves. Back to your post you talk about responsibility for your actions. I am with this 100%, some people just can't be responsible on these substances, whether illegal, legal, or even natural. I do believe you need to be responsible in order to do any substance of any kind. Great Post

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Thanks for your opinion! but can you please provide insight on this? I'm trying to get everyone to voice their opinions

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I agree but I believe they shouldn't restrict the substance, rather the person. The person should be very responsible and take full actions to prevent things from happening. This goes with alcohol. I know people who are wonderful on it and can control it and keep it to themselves. Yet people abuse it for partying and being irresponsible like drinking and driving.

I agree the person should be prosecuted for doing a wrong action. But is the drug held responsible, or should the person? I mean not everyone does that. It's like a pre-determined sub-concious thing they go through.